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Re: The Air Canada OTS thread

Post by TheStig » Thu May 09, 2019 7:47 am

Babar350 wrote:
Wed May 08, 2019 6:41 pm
Okay so GGN finally flowing to mainline...
Do you know if GS will continue during summer or like Jazz they’ll resume in September ?
Ground schools are planned to run though the summer.

The only ***asterix I would include with respect the the GGN pilots is that they were part of a short lived flow through program from a few years ago (2014/15?) whereby applicants interviewed at AC and GGN, were selected essentially pre-hired at AC before completing their training from 0 TT to 1900 PPC at Vero Beach before flying for 2-4 years at GGN.
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Re: The Air Canada OTS thread

Post by altiplano » Thu May 09, 2019 8:35 am

1 year getting your license and PPC, 3 years keeping your nose clean in a Beechcraft, and now Mainline... a pretty fortunate path.

I guess this could possibly be a sign of future recruiting methods, depending on how well these candidates fair/transition to this operation with fairly limited industry experience. No doubt they will be having to work hard.
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Re: The Air Canada OTS thread

Post by Daniel Cooper » Thu May 09, 2019 10:40 am

TheStig wrote:
Thu May 09, 2019 7:47 am
The only ***asterix I would include with respect the the GGN pilots is that they were part of a short lived flow through program from a few years ago (2014/15?) whereby applicants interviewed at AC and GGN, were selected essentially pre-hired at AC before completing their training from 0 TT to 1900 PPC at Vero Beach before flying for 2-4 years at GGN.
I wondered why Vero Beach started showing up everywhere all of sudden. Didn't know Air Canada had a cadet program.
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Re: The Air Canada OTS thread

Post by landshark » Thu May 09, 2019 10:43 am

I’m glad somebody answered that, I was wondering the same. Any idea what they offered last night?
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Re: The Air Canada OTS thread

Post by iflyroads » Thu May 09, 2019 2:35 pm

landshark wrote:
Thu May 09, 2019 10:43 am
I’m glad somebody answered that, I was wondering the same. Any idea what they offered last night?


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Re: The Air Canada OTS thread

Post by tallyho » Thu May 16, 2019 8:11 am

Between the Max and potential AT buyout does anyone see any hiring slowdown?
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Re: The Air Canada OTS thread

Post by iflyroads » Thu May 16, 2019 8:28 am

tallyho wrote:
Thu May 16, 2019 8:11 am
Between the Max and potential AT buyout does anyone see any hiring slowdown?


Till all the details are ironed out its business as usual with regards to hiring.

Expect more express being hired the next few gs
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Re: The Air Canada OTS thread

Post by 200Above » Thu May 16, 2019 10:41 am

Thanks for the updates. I assume June 3 is the next course, and calls have already gone out for that?

Again, thanks for your insight.
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Re: The Air Canada OTS thread

Post by speedah » Thu May 16, 2019 11:17 am

calls have been / are going out this week for the June 10th class.
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Re: The Air Canada OTS thread

Post by iflyroads » Wed May 22, 2019 6:57 am

Aside from June 10th there will be a July 22nd and August 12th for the summer gs so far.
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Re: The Air Canada OTS thread

Post by Victory » Wed May 22, 2019 11:34 am

Nobody should defer any offer. It's imperative that your hire date is before the close of any deal with Transat.
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Re: The Air Canada OTS thread

Post by condor1 » Wed May 22, 2019 2:47 pm

iflyroads wrote:
Wed May 22, 2019 6:57 am
Aside from June 10th there will be a July 22nd and August 12th for the summer gs so far.
So, I'm guessing emails for those will be going out the first and last week of July respectively.
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Re: The Air Canada OTS thread

Post by jpilot77 » Wed May 22, 2019 6:06 pm

You’ll get a phone call from HR when you get a job offer. Email means better luck next time.
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Re: The Air Canada OTS thread

Post by 200Above » Wed May 22, 2019 8:23 pm

So reading between the lines,with the next couple courses being mostly Express, and two GS’s slotted after June 10 (July and Aug), it could be potentially closer to the beginning of fall for some of us?

Hunker down fellas! :)
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Re: The Air Canada OTS thread

Post by iflyroads » Thu May 23, 2019 5:01 am

condor1 wrote:
Wed May 22, 2019 2:47 pm
iflyroads wrote:
Wed May 22, 2019 6:57 am
Aside from June 10th there will be a July 22nd and August 12th for the summer gs so far.
So, I'm guessing emails for those will be going out the first and last week of July respectively.
It will be a phone call, and right now we're giving offers as early as 4 weeks away and as late at 2.5 to 3 weeks for Gs dates.
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Re: The Air Canada OTS thread

Post by Transition9er2 » Thu May 23, 2019 7:10 am

Iflyroads, thanks for all the updates, very helpful.

You posted last month saying there would be a GS every 2 weeks during this summer, now you’re saying it’s more like once a month until August. Is it fair to say hiring will be slowing right down until after the integration of Transat pilots if this deal goes through? Reading between the lines I’m guessing hiring won’t be at a 2 week cycle until the new year.

Am I off base or kinda close?

Thanks again for all the info.
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Re: The Air Canada OTS thread

Post by iflyroads » Thu May 23, 2019 7:20 am

Transition9er2 wrote:
Thu May 23, 2019 7:10 am
Iflyroads, thanks for all the updates, very helpful.

You posted last month saying there would be a GS every 2 weeks during this summer, now you’re saying it’s more like once a month until August. Is it fair to say hiring will be slowing right down until after the integration of Transat pilots if this deal goes through? Reading between the lines I’m guessing hiring won’t be at a 2 week cycle until the new year.

Am I off base or kinda close?

Thanks again for all the info.
Once every 2 weeks was the plan a few months ago. The dates I posted are confirmed gs dates. Could have more gs in the summer or that could be it.

We don't expect the Transat deal to be fully implemented for another 8 months to a year if it goes through.
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Re: The Air Canada OTS thread

Post by iflyroads » Thu May 23, 2019 11:45 am

Class of 27 started this part Monday.

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Re: The Air Canada OTS thread

Post by tallyho » Sat May 25, 2019 9:18 am

So...why does Air Canada tell every interview candidate they will have a decision in 4-6 weeks? They never tell anyone within this time frame. Its usually more like 3 months from people I know. I realize a few weeks over a 30 year career isn't a big deal, but why not just be honest instead of raising hope. People have a lot riding on it and its important to the individuals. Its pretty disrespectful. I know this will come across as a whiny sad little rant but it bugs me and I already feel better....... is it just me?
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Re: The Air Canada OTS thread

Post by Mr. North » Sat May 25, 2019 11:11 am

Wasn't all that long ago guys were waiting in the pool for 2+ years! A couple of months is nothing.
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Re: The Air Canada OTS thread

Post by laserstrike » Sat May 25, 2019 1:41 pm

tallyho wrote:
Sat May 25, 2019 9:18 am
So...why does Air Canada tell every interview candidate they will have a decision in 4-6 weeks? They never tell anyone within this time frame. Its usually more like 3 months from people I know. I realize a few weeks over a 30 year career isn't a big deal, but why not just be honest instead of raising hope. People have a lot riding on it and its important to the individuals. Its pretty disrespectful. I know this will come across as a whiny sad little rant but it bugs me and I already feel better....... is it just me?
Two months seems to be the norm right now. At least for Express applications and yes I realize this is the OTS thread. I imagine things might get a little slow on the OTS side of things. Last class only had something like 6 of 27 OTS. The rest were Jazz. And of those OTS they were all quite experienced. Military, Etihad, WJA...
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Re: The Air Canada OTS thread

Post by kilocharliemike » Sat May 25, 2019 4:21 pm

tallyho wrote:
Sat May 25, 2019 9:18 am
So...why does Air Canada tell every interview candidate they will have a decision in 4-6 weeks? They never tell anyone within this time frame. Its usually more like 3 months from people I know. I realize a few weeks over a 30 year career isn't a big deal, but why not just be honest instead of raising hope. People have a lot riding on it and its important to the individuals. Its pretty disrespectful. I know this will come across as a whiny sad little rant but it bugs me and I already feel better....... is it just me?
I think the point is why do they give any time frame at all? Just say we will call whenever, you know us, that’s how we roll, we AC , you know you want this! Why say 4 weeks, 2 days or whatever, is it something learnt in HR college, tell them one thing but do another, make them boys sweat it out a bit, keep them guessing. Who knows. It’s like something you do to your kids, telling them you’ll be back at 8 so they clean up and don’t have a party, but you know you are coming back at midnight. 😂
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Re: The Air Canada OTS thread

Post by Jumbo744 » Sun May 26, 2019 10:37 am

kilocharliemike wrote:
Sat May 25, 2019 4:21 pm
tallyho wrote:
Sat May 25, 2019 9:18 am
So...why does Air Canada tell every interview candidate they will have a decision in 4-6 weeks? They never tell anyone within this time frame. Its usually more like 3 months from people I know. I realize a few weeks over a 30 year career isn't a big deal, but why not just be honest instead of raising hope. People have a lot riding on it and its important to the individuals. Its pretty disrespectful. I know this will come across as a whiny sad little rant but it bugs me and I already feel better....... is it just me?
I think the point is why do they give any time frame at all? Just say we will call whenever, you know us, that’s how we roll, we AC , you know you want this! Why say 4 weeks, 2 days or whatever, is it something learnt in HR college, tell them one thing but do another, make them boys sweat it out a bit, keep them guessing. Who knows. It’s like something you do to your kids, telling them you’ll be back at 8 so they clean up and don’t have a party, but you know you are coming back at midnight. 😂
:lol: :lol: good one bro
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Re: The Air Canada OTS thread

Post by YUL C-PAD » Tue May 28, 2019 12:29 pm

How long after reference check calls have people been getting a call for a course date?

My references were also told 2 courses in July and 2 in August now....FYI
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Re: The Air Canada OTS thread

Post by laserstrike » Tue May 28, 2019 12:39 pm

YUL C-PAD wrote:
Tue May 28, 2019 12:29 pm
How long after reference check calls have people been getting a call for a course date?

My references were also told 2 courses in July and 2 in August now....FYI
3 days after the second one was contacted.

It seems like they are giving 2-3 weeks notice right now on average for class start dates. One class starts on the 10th so I would wager that same week calls should go out for the next one which will likely start 2-3 weeks later.
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