TheStig wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 9:25 am
nd The AC/Cdn merger left everyone with a bad taste in their mouth because it was the forced marriage of two failing businesses that watched their combined market share dwindle. It's noteworthy that no pilots who lived through it have commented here, they've moved on, it was nearly two decades ago.
AC's purchase of TS isn't another chapter in the story its a different genre. No doubt there will still be pilots who feel they didn't get a fair deal and will make outlandish demands, so be it. Hopefully the leadership of both groups can get together and find common goals, figure out the key objectives and focus on achieving them.
Merge the lists, get rid of 4 year status pay, 5-10% bump across the board, improvements to the reserve rules and pension and I'd be content. It's a lot to ask for but hey, get all that and we're still well behind every carrier in the USA. Oh, and no more 10 year contracts.
When I got my offer letter I remember it saying something about wanting to be a top 10 global airline. Well, maybe it's time to start paying like a top 10 global airline.
The top scale Transat A330 captain has a lower pay rate than a A320 captain at AC. Essentially Transat Seniority #1 currently makes less on paper than a seniority number 3200ish that holds a A320 captain position at AC.
Let that sink in. The Transat pilots have landed a windfall of a lifetime. Even a DOH merge would be a huge upside for these guys/gals.
RVR6000 wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 9:13 pm
The top scale Transat A330 captain has a lower pay rate than a A320 captain at AC. Essentially Transat Seniority #1 currently makes less on paper than a seniority number 3200ish that holds a A320 captain position at AC.
Let that sink in. The Transat pilots have landed a windfall of a lifetime. Even a DOH merge would be a huge upside for these guys/gals.
Is a top rate AC 320 more than 224/hr? I'm not quite sure if this is accurate. Plus, the schedule was the BIG draw at TS.
Regardless, hoping for positivity all around.
RVR6000 wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 9:13 pm
The top scale Transat A330 captain has a lower pay rate than a A320 captain at AC. Essentially Transat Seniority #1 currently makes less on paper than a seniority number 3200ish that holds a A320 captain position at AC.
Let that sink in. The Transat pilots have landed a windfall of a lifetime. Even a DOH merge would be a huge upside for these guys/gals.
Is a top rate AC 320 more than 224/hr? I'm not quite sure if this is accurate. Plus, the schedule was the BIG draw at TS.
Regardless, hoping for positivity all around.
RVR6000 wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 9:13 pm
The top scale Transat A330 captain has a lower pay rate than a A320 captain at AC. Essentially Transat Seniority #1 currently makes less on paper than a seniority number 3200ish that holds a A320 captain position at AC.
Let that sink in. The Transat pilots have landed a windfall of a lifetime. Even a DOH merge would be a huge upside for these guys/gals.
It’s not all about money. If that senior Transat Pilot ends up with less vacation and works more days per month then it’s far from a windfall
Regardless no doby will loose pay neither acrueded vacation because you allready have them. And in the big picture of things the 330 fleet at AC has the less efficient pairings of the WB fleet. Its fun flying in europe but for QOL the 320 works less days and more credits per month with less body fatigue due to minimal time zone changes. Regardless of the company don’t get attached to your seat to much, management move things around, play your cards as it goes. In such a big system a plane doesnt own a base or a destination equipment is prone to move around. Just pick a seat that suits your desire QOL to think that all those 330 and 321LR will stay in YUL and do the same flying is utopic, some will but most of it wont.
TheStig wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 9:25 am
nd The AC/Cdn merger left everyone with a bad taste in their mouth because it was the forced marriage of two failing businesses that watched their combined market share dwindle. It's noteworthy that no pilots who lived through it have commented here, they've moved on, it was nearly two decades ago.
AC's purchase of TS isn't another chapter in the story its a different genre. No doubt there will still be pilots who feel they didn't get a fair deal and will make outlandish demands, so be it. Hopefully the leadership of both groups can get together and find common goals, figure out the key objectives and focus on achieving them.
Merge the lists, get rid of 4 year status pay, 5-10% bump across the board, improvements to the reserve rules and pension and I'd be content. It's a lot to ask for but hey, get all that and we're still well behind every carrier in the USA. Oh, and no more 10 year contracts.
When I got my offer letter I remember it saying something about wanting to be a top 10 global airline. Well, maybe it's time to start paying like a top 10 global airline.
A 10 year contract if good might actually be a good thing because it will be negociated from a relative position of strengh, not like the last one that was signed when economy was still having a hard time to pick up and fuel prices were thru the roof.
Plus we will have to fix maybee the course rights a bit because most likely some AT guys will slide ahead of people that used a course right without this merge in head and will end up loosing the QOL. Like bidding a position at 80% to avoid comuting on reserve and getting bumped to 95% on that same position with slower move for a forseable future.
