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Re: 2018 Pilot Hiring

Post by Handover » Wed May 15, 2019 6:25 am

Yycjetdriver wrote:
Wed May 15, 2019 6:07 am
munzil wrote:
Mon May 13, 2019 12:58 pm
Good luck to all who interviewed. Sunwing is truely a gem of Canadian Aviation. With the new type coming on line soon, things are certainly going to get interesting.
A gem??? Seriously? Sunwing isn’t very far removed from the days of trying to play the foreign worker system at every corner in order to avoid hiring Canadians. Instead filling their flight decks with cheaper, drunk Eastern Europeans.
Eh? I work here, what on earth are you talking about? To be frank your diatribe sounds a little drunk in itself.
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Re: 2018 Pilot Hiring

Post by Yycjetdriver » Wed May 15, 2019 7:01 am

Handover wrote:
Wed May 15, 2019 6:25 am
Yycjetdriver wrote:
Wed May 15, 2019 6:07 am
munzil wrote:
Mon May 13, 2019 12:58 pm
Good luck to all who interviewed. Sunwing is truely a gem of Canadian Aviation. With the new type coming on line soon, things are certainly going to get interesting.
A gem??? Seriously? Sunwing isn’t very far removed from the days of trying to play the foreign worker system at every corner in order to avoid hiring Canadians. Instead filling their flight decks with cheaper, drunk Eastern Europeans.
Eh? I work here, what on earth are you talking about? To be frank your diatribe sounds a little drunk in itself.
Ok.... good one.
So I’m guessing by the fact you chose to attack me instead of what I said I was correct in my statement.
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Re: 2018 Pilot Hiring

Post by Handover » Wed May 15, 2019 9:23 am

Yycjetdriver wrote:
Wed May 15, 2019 7:01 am
Handover wrote:
Wed May 15, 2019 6:25 am
Yycjetdriver wrote:
Wed May 15, 2019 6:07 am


A gem??? Seriously? Sunwing isn’t very far removed from the days of trying to play the foreign worker system at every corner in order to avoid hiring Canadians. Instead filling their flight decks with cheaper, drunk Eastern Europeans.
Eh? I work here, what on earth are you talking about? To be frank your diatribe sounds a little drunk in itself.
Ok.... good one.
So I’m guessing by the fact you chose to attack me instead of what I said I was correct in my statement.
Ok, fine. Can you elaborate on how we are not far removed from the foreign worker days? Certainly that incident was not to be celebrated. A number of airlines have had such unfortunate issues. Are you implying that the rest of us behave in such a fashion?
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Re: 2018 Pilot Hiring

Post by DHC-1 Jockey » Wed May 15, 2019 10:40 am

I've worked at 3 705 companies, 1 704 and 1 703 and SWG is the best place I've been. Hopefully they stay in business a long time as I intend to stay the rest of my career here.
Yycjetdriver wrote:
Wed May 15, 2019 6:07 am
Seriously? Sunwing isn’t very far removed from the days of trying to play the foreign worker system at every corner in order to avoid hiring Canadians.
Note that Transat (who used to slag SWG for doing this) is using foreign workers themselves now to augment their winter flying. I'm not slamming Transat by the way. I know people who work there and they seem just as happy there as the people at SWG. Having these agreements allows SWG to have the flexibility to not lay-off pilots in the summer. And, we send far more pilots to Europe in the summer than SWG brings to Canada in the winter.

I think it's a good business model for a very seasonal business.
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Re: 2018 Pilot Hiring

Post by joyful » Wed May 22, 2019 8:52 am

So groundschool is scheduled on July only, can anyone here confirm?
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Re: 2018 Pilot Hiring

Post by garfield » Tue May 28, 2019 11:56 am

Is it still mandatory to go to Europe during summer? I was interested with WG because you could spend the whole summer with your family while on EI.

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Re: 2018 Pilot Hiring

Post by DHC-1 Jockey » Tue May 28, 2019 12:24 pm

garfield wrote:
Tue May 28, 2019 11:56 am
Is it still mandatory to go to Europe during summer?
This year, people were drafted to go who didn't want to. Other years, even if you want to go, your seniority may not be able to hold it and you spend the summer at your home base in Canada working a relaxed schedule.

Sunwing doesn't hire seasonal pilots anymore who get laid off in the summers.. all new-hires are permanent employees.
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Re: 2018 Pilot Hiring

Post by garfield » Thu May 30, 2019 5:30 am

Ok but if you're in a seasonal base in the winter that means you have to live in a big city in the summer?
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Re: 2018 Pilot Hiring

Post by Handover » Thu May 30, 2019 5:33 am

garfield wrote:
Thu May 30, 2019 5:30 am
Ok but if you're in a seasonal base in the winter that means you have to live in a big city in the summer?
Yes - or you can deploy to europe for the summer and earn the big $$$
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Re: 2018 Pilot Hiring

Post by Mart » Fri May 31, 2019 6:56 am

Anyone interviewed since last job posting in march received a call back or GS date?

Since portal is now close, are they still hiring throughout summer and planning GS every month?
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Re: 2018 Pilot Hiring

Post by anchovy » Fri May 31, 2019 8:34 pm

Just as an indicator, my app is still in "New" Status which according to Jobvite means that they haven't even opened the application yet. I applied mid April just before the portal closed.
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Re: 2018 Pilot Hiring

Post by mollok » Tue Jun 04, 2019 11:44 am

Any news about GS in july? Is it still schedulled or not?
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Re: 2018 Pilot Hiring

Post by Free Woodpecker » Mon Jun 17, 2019 1:54 pm

Would 6000 hours+ corporate jet time (Challenger, Lear, Sovereign) meet the Captain upgrade requirements at SWG should a vacancy be available?
Also, has anyone from the May interviews had references called as of yet?
Thanks.
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Re: 2018 Pilot Hiring

Post by Handover » Mon Jun 17, 2019 3:22 pm

Free Woodpecker wrote:
Mon Jun 17, 2019 1:54 pm
Would 6000 hours+ corporate jet time (Challenger, Lear, Sovereign) meet the Captain upgrade requirements at SWG should a vacancy be available?
Also, has anyone from the May interviews had references called as of yet?
Thanks.
Minimum Upgrade Qualifications
6.5.1 To qualify for initial upgrade training to Captain on type, a FCM should meet the following
minimums:
a) A current Airline Transport Pilot License, AND
b) 5,000 hours Total Flight Time, AND
c) 2,000 hours Total Flight Time on Jets over 100,000 lb., OR 1,000 hours PIC Flight Time
on Jets over 100,000 lb.
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Re: 2018 Pilot Hiring

Post by Free Woodpecker » Tue Jun 18, 2019 9:08 am

Handover wrote:
Mon Jun 17, 2019 3:22 pm
Free Woodpecker wrote:
Mon Jun 17, 2019 1:54 pm
Would 6000 hours+ corporate jet time (Challenger, Lear, Sovereign) meet the Captain upgrade requirements at SWG should a vacancy be available?
Also, has anyone from the May interviews had references called as of yet?
Thanks.
Minimum Upgrade Qualifications
6.5.1 To qualify for initial upgrade training to Captain on type, a FCM should meet the following
minimums:
a) A current Airline Transport Pilot License, AND
b) 5,000 hours Total Flight Time, AND
c) 2,000 hours Total Flight Time on Jets over 100,000 lb., OR 1,000 hours PIC Flight Time
on Jets over 100,000 lb.
Fair enough. I ask this as the upgrade qualifications use the word “should” vs “must”.
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Re: 2018 Pilot Hiring

Post by munzil » Tue Jun 18, 2019 11:30 am

Free Woodpecker wrote:
Tue Jun 18, 2019 9:08 am
Handover wrote:
Mon Jun 17, 2019 3:22 pm
Free Woodpecker wrote:
Mon Jun 17, 2019 1:54 pm
Would 6000 hours+ corporate jet time (Challenger, Lear, Sovereign) meet the Captain upgrade requirements at SWG should a vacancy be available?
Also, has anyone from the May interviews had references called as of yet?
Thanks.
Minimum Upgrade Qualifications
6.5.1 To qualify for initial upgrade training to Captain on type, a FCM should meet the following
minimums:
a) A current Airline Transport Pilot License, AND
b) 5,000 hours Total Flight Time, AND
c) 2,000 hours Total Flight Time on Jets over 100,000 lb., OR 1,000 hours PIC Flight Time
on Jets over 100,000 lb.
Fair enough. I ask this as the upgrade qualifications use the word “should” vs “must”.
should would mean that no one else higher meets these requirements. To answer your question, it is about 2 years now. Most people have come with light jet time - if less than 2 years then most likely already have PIC 737 or similar.
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Re: 2018 Pilot Hiring

Post by DHC-1 Jockey » Tue Jun 18, 2019 5:18 pm

Free Woodpecker wrote:
Mon Jun 17, 2019 1:54 pm
Would 6000 hours+ corporate jet time (Challenger, Lear, Sovereign) meet the Captain upgrade requirements at SWG should a vacancy be available?
To echo Munzil, a guy from my course upgraded almost a year to the day he was hired, and he didn't have any jet time over 100,000 lbs as per the matrix. He did however have lots of EMB 175 time and was a trainer and ACP, so they look at upgrades on a case-by-case basis which is a good thing. Not everyone who meets the matrix requirements is automatically "upgradeable." Personality, command ability, previous training records and even word-of-mouth from other trainers play a large role in whether you get upgraded or not.

As well, there is a note to the matrix that states that the 2,000 TT over 100,000 lbs can be reduced by 500 hours per year that you're with the company. So, after 2 years at SWG, you only need 1,000 TT over 100,000 lbs.
Free Woodpecker wrote:
Mon Jun 17, 2019 1:54 pm
Also, has anyone from the May interviews had references called as of yet?
I've heard that 2 summer groundschools were postponed/cancelled as a result of the MAX issues. I can't confirm though, but it looks like hiring might be paused for a while until the MAX is back.
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Re: 2018 Pilot Hiring

Post by bythenumbers » Fri Jun 21, 2019 8:37 am

Has the July ground school also been postponed/delayed as well?

Is August still planned for now?
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Re: 2018 Pilot Hiring

Post by FOD_Vacuum » Wed Jun 26, 2019 11:21 am

Interviews are starting July 15th for two weeks. Got the invite over the phone. I have no jet time, but have 4300TT and mostly turboprop MPIC and no 705 time. I was training captain at all of my companies I have worked so far. Bilingual, no degree but diploma. Good luck for those who applied! I applied to the posting from middle of March, 2019 so it took about three months to get the call. I also don’t have any internal references. If anyone has pointers for the interview, a PM would be great!
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Re: 2018 Pilot Hiring

Post by Aya » Sun Jul 21, 2019 11:03 am

Heard they started calling for Sept. Gs....any infos?
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Re: 2018 Pilot Hiring

Post by FOD_Vacuum » Tue Jul 23, 2019 12:37 pm

Any idea how long Sunwing usually takes to get back after interview before offering a position or PFO? When is the next GS scheduled for? Any info would be awesome-thanks!
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Re: 2018 Pilot Hiring

Post by mollok » Tue Jul 23, 2019 1:10 pm

I've done my interview july 26th last year, received my validation email around mid August, and still waiting for the GS!!!
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Re: 2018 Pilot Hiring

Post by FOD_Vacuum » Tue Jul 23, 2019 9:03 pm

mollok, let me get this right, you interviewed July 2018 and validation email for being successful Aug 2018, and still waiting for GS today?
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Re: 2018 Pilot Hiring

Post by mollok » Wed Jul 24, 2019 5:00 am

Yes!
I've received another email last october, telling me that all GS for 2018 was filled and that my file will be kept active for a period of 12 months, so, till october 2019...
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Re: 2018 Pilot Hiring

Post by daedalusx » Wed Jul 24, 2019 8:20 am

mollok wrote:
Wed Jul 24, 2019 5:00 am
Yes!
I've received another email last october, telling me that all GS for 2018 was filled and that my file will be kept active for a period of 12 months, so, till october 2019...
Same thing happened to the guys in the May 2019 course. You’d probably be done your course by now if it wasn’t for the Max grounding.
Hang in tight, seems like there is course for aug, sep and oct. It’ll be worth the wait.
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