The Air Canada OTS thread

[SkyKing]

Calls went out this week for a July 1st PIT. Good luck to all!

[SAExpress]

I got the call on Friday for July 1st too. It can be a long wait so be ready for it. Applied around the new year, Interviewed in early March and finally got the call 13 weeks after my interview.

I do have a degree and jet time. Making the leap from WestJet

Good luck to everyone applying!

[YUL C-PAD]

Applied January. Interviewed middle of March. 12 weeks later got a PFO. Good luck all.

[PostmasterGeneral]

Condolences to all those forces to start a PIT course on Canada Day

[Flyingbro]

Applied in January, interview in March offer 12 weeks later (almost to the day) I have a aviation deploma and do 705 training. Best of luck to all and don't lose hope!

[Daniel Cooper]

Condolences to all those forces to start a PIT course on Canada Day

I'm sure I'm not the only pilot that has no idea when national holidays even are.

[C-GGGQ]

Condolences to all those forces to start a PIT course on Canada Day

I'm sure I'm not the only pilot that has no idea when national holidays even are.

Or what day of the week it is other than 3 of 6 or whatever

[condor1]

I will see you July 1st.
7 weeks from interview to job offer.

[tallyho]

Been 13 weeks for me and nothing but crickets

[lownslow]

Been 13 weeks for me and nothing but crickets

Guy I know had six months of crickets before the interview and another six months before a job offer. Just don’t burn any bridges in the meantime.

[TheSocialChameleon]

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[Victory]

Big one. What is the breakdown? Any reason for the big size?

[PostmasterGeneral]

Running bigger classes now every 3 weeks instead of every two.

[Victory]

When were classes every 2 weeks though?

[altiplano]

I think it was every 3 weeks, and is supposed to go to every 2 weeks over the summer.

[tallyho]

13 weeks from interview to call. 22 July start. Phewy

[lownslow]

Big one. What is the breakdown? Any reason for the big size?

Wild guess: A220 training is starting.

[TheStig]

June, July and August are the high water marks for the airline, the objective is to have all hands on deck for the peak season. Accordingly conversion courses are planned to be completed prior to the summer. With all the pilots on the property flying the line there is more simulator space available to train new hires.

A220 courses are on the books for instructors, managers and check pilots, I wouldn't expect to see FO spots available prior to October.

[Warden]

Training reports don't show anything for the A220 anytime soon. Other than the trainers/checkers.

Additionally if the 737 is grounded much longer I wouldn't be surprised to see a big move in the next bid. They can't keep the pilots sitting at home forever.

[altiplano]

It's cheaper for them to leave the pilots at home than run a reduction bid.

Not only are the 737 pilots getting paid less at home than they would be if they were training, the amount of courses a reduction would trigger would be out of sight at a time when training is at capacity.

Even if they only reduced roughly 1/2 - 200 pilots, I estimate it would trigger 500 courses. Only to have to train most of those reduced/bumped people back again when they exercise their RIRs in 6 months or a year - so maybe 800-1000 courses when it's all said and done and back to roughly where it is today.

Not that I disagree with you, they should reduce the 737, except ACPA let them park those pilots cheaper than the contractual alternative and Boeing will pay for it somehow in the end.

[Warden]

It's cheaper for them to leave the pilots at home than run a reduction bid.

Not only are the 737 pilots getting paid less at home than they would be if they were training, the amount of courses a reduction would trigger would be out of sight at a time when training is at capacity.

Even if they only reduced roughly 1/2 - 200 pilots, I estimate it would trigger 500 courses. Only to have to train most of those reduced/bumped people back again when they exercise their RIRs in 6 months or a year - so maybe 800-1000 courses when it's all said and done and back to roughly where it is today.

Not that I disagree with you, they should reduce the 737, except ACPA let them park those pilots cheaper than the contractual alternative and Boeing will pay for it somehow in the end.

Yah you're right I didn't really think about the cascade effect of pilots with reduction rights. Would get pretty messy pretty fast.

How about we just get rid of the 737s in totality. Finalize this AT deal, convert the options they have for the NEOs and convert on the A220 options. I think it will take years otherwise for average passengers to be fine flying on a MAX again. Might not be a bad idea to become the one Canadian operator (between SW, WJ, AC) to not run the MAX.

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[altiplano]

4. Chronic shortage. Didn't hire enough pilots over the last 8 years.

[jpilot77]

There’s a lot of senior Sunwing pilots on this last PIT course.