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Re: 10 years ago today Colgan Air 3407

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Hilroy wrote: Tue Feb 12, 2019 11:26 amSwayne Martin explains it very well in one of his videos.
He's twelve and AFAIK the 1500 hour rule hasn't helped anyone prevent an accident. The accident wasn't even caused by low experience, it was icing, pilot error and fatigue.
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plausiblyannonymous wrote: Mon Jun 17, 2019 4:14 pm
Hilroy wrote: Tue Feb 12, 2019 11:26 amSwayne Martin explains it very well in one of his videos.
He's twelve and AFAIK the 1500 hour rule hasn't helped anyone prevent an accident. The accident wasn't even caused by low experience, it was icing, pilot error and fatigue.
Pure incompetence.
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telex wrote: Mon Jun 17, 2019 5:08 pmPure incompetence.
Have to agree. Using fatigue as an excuse to completely mishandle a stall recovery is just not on.

Or if one is actually so tired they don't know that pitching up at low airspeed is a bad idea, then they're not fit for duty and shouldn't have reported.

The fact that the accident shone a light on horrendous duty regs and pay is positive, but hardly the reason for the accident.
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complexintentions wrote: Tue Jun 18, 2019 7:15 amthey're not fit for duty and shouldn't have reported.
Fatigue plays cruel tricks.
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plausiblyannonymous wrote: Wed Jun 19, 2019 7:11 am
complexintentions wrote: Tue Jun 18, 2019 7:15 amthey're not fit for duty and shouldn't have reported.
Fatigue plays cruel tricks.
Pure incompetence is no trick.

Stalling an airplane and having no idea what to do about it is not a cruel fatigue trick.
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