THISa_pilot wrote: ↑Fri Aug 02, 2019 10:09 amplausiblyannonymous wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 7:26 pmI haven't seen the lifestyle at Encore, but I am right to be skeptical about Jazz based on the fact that they make you agree to move somewhere before telling you where.
I don't mean to pick on you specifically, plausiblyannonymous, but being a recent hire Jazz FO, I can tell you this:
- I haven't done a recurrent sim yet
- I've already been awarded my desired base, I was awarded it during sim training.
- I spent 2.5 weeks post-indoc on reserve at my hire base, since then I've had a full line of flying every month.
- With an ATPL, I can likely be awarded an upgrade within a year of hire.
These are very objectively UNREAL opportunities for the Canadian regional pilot at one of the three "major" regionals, the others being Porter and Encore.
What I've noticed though, on the RJ, are captains who are very resentful of the attitudes coming out of these forums and into the cockpit from people who started training post-2010.
I fly with captains twice my age, who spend 15 YEARS as first officers with no upward or even lateral movement within the company. They've survived mergers, base reductions, layoffs, furloughs, and medical issues in some cases to be able to sit in the seats they do. They trained when training was unpaid. When accommodations in training were on their own dime. Jazz not only provides that, they top it off with a training perdiem. They worked when there weren't duty limitations. They worked up north for 5-7 years before coming to jazz
Then FOs come in, all piss and vinegar, complaining about this that and everything else under the sun, without one iota of respect or even acknowledgement of what things used to be like.
Sure you can't say "well it's different for us, blah blah blah", but you're about to jump into a plane shoulder to shoulder with this person for 4 days. To some, the lack of appreciation for how far the industry has come is equivalent to barging into a cockpit and stating "hello, I love Hitler" as a first impression.
This forum is the place for these discussions, so keep em going. But please, to future FOs like me, make sure you enter that flight deck with respect for the captain as a baseline, and leave your problems in the terminal.
You don't like it, go somewhere else. You got hired and still don't like it? Time to work with ALPA to make the changes you want to see. Whining on a forum is a fart in the wind. Does nothing, but some still end up smelling it.
Good luck all. Keep it classy.
It’s the people that complain about the job itself as if they didn’t know what being a pilot would be like. That pisses me off the most. I’m just trying to enjoy my pairing. If you don’t like being a pilot go do something else or keep your negative mouth shut.
Are these groundschool all for GGN?
Just got the magical call! I start groundschool Oct. 15th!
Congrats & welcome aboard!
Lots of vacancies there. A friend of mine showed me their open flying I couldn't believe how much there was.de St-Exup Fan wrote: ↑Mon Oct 07, 2019 12:43 pmHeard that the two last GS were yvr Q4 only, is that base super empty and they try to fill it up or is there still some quick lateral movement to other bases possible early during training or right after it ( In other words, should I plan to establish in YVR for 20 minutes or 20 centuries? )