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Re: New hire bids

Post by crystalpizza » Mon Sep 09, 2019 5:28 pm

Hello all,

Would anyone have an exact breakdown of the Sept 9 groundschool positions? And how many GGN people are in the groundschool?

Thanks,
Nick
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Re: New hire bids

Post by kingskate8 » Tue Sep 10, 2019 2:37 pm

Any calls gone out for October groundschool yet?
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Re: New hire bids

Post by KenoraPilot » Tue Sep 10, 2019 3:36 pm

First Oct GS full, not sure bout next two in October.
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Re: New hire bids

Post by yhz41 » Tue Sep 10, 2019 5:02 pm

Sept 9 was
6 yvr q
3 yyz classic
2 yul classic
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Re: New hire bids

Post by RILEY » Tue Sep 10, 2019 7:03 pm

KenoraPilot wrote:
Tue Sep 10, 2019 3:36 pm
First Oct GS full, not sure bout next two in October.
Do you know the dates of the remaining 2?
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Re: New hire bids

Post by kingskate8 » Tue Sep 10, 2019 7:10 pm

KenoraPilot wrote:
Tue Sep 10, 2019 3:36 pm
First Oct GS full, not sure bout next two in October.
Awesome thanks brother!
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Re: New hire bids

Post by av8ts » Wed Sep 11, 2019 5:57 am

a_pilot wrote:
Fri Aug 02, 2019 10:09 am
plausiblyannonymous wrote:
Thu Jul 25, 2019 7:26 pm
Warden wrote:
Thu Jul 25, 2019 6:12 pm
You're fooling yourself if you think otherwise.
I haven't seen the lifestyle at Encore, but I am right to be skeptical about Jazz based on the fact that they make you agree to move somewhere before telling you where.

I don't mean to pick on you specifically, plausiblyannonymous, but being a recent hire Jazz FO, I can tell you this:

- I haven't done a recurrent sim yet
- I've already been awarded my desired base, I was awarded it during sim training.
- I spent 2.5 weeks post-indoc on reserve at my hire base, since then I've had a full line of flying every month.
- With an ATPL, I can likely be awarded an upgrade within a year of hire.

These are very objectively UNREAL opportunities for the Canadian regional pilot at one of the three "major" regionals, the others being Porter and Encore.

What I've noticed though, on the RJ, are captains who are very resentful of the attitudes coming out of these forums and into the cockpit from people who started training post-2010.

I fly with captains twice my age, who spend 15 YEARS as first officers with no upward or even lateral movement within the company. They've survived mergers, base reductions, layoffs, furloughs, and medical issues in some cases to be able to sit in the seats they do. They trained when training was unpaid. When accommodations in training were on their own dime. Jazz not only provides that, they top it off with a training perdiem. They worked when there weren't duty limitations. They worked up north for 5-7 years before coming to jazz

Then FOs come in, all piss and vinegar, complaining about this that and everything else under the sun, without one iota of respect or even acknowledgement of what things used to be like.

Sure you can't say "well it's different for us, blah blah blah", but you're about to jump into a plane shoulder to shoulder with this person for 4 days. To some, the lack of appreciation for how far the industry has come is equivalent to barging into a cockpit and stating "hello, I love Hitler" as a first impression.

This forum is the place for these discussions, so keep em going. But please, to future FOs like me, make sure you enter that flight deck with respect for the captain as a baseline, and leave your problems in the terminal.

You don't like it, go somewhere else. You got hired and still don't like it? Time to work with ALPA to make the changes you want to see. Whining on a forum is a fart in the wind. Does nothing, but some still end up smelling it.

Good luck all. Keep it classy.

A Pilot.
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Re: New hire bids

Post by KenoraPilot » Wed Sep 11, 2019 8:09 am

RILEY wrote:
Tue Sep 10, 2019 7:03 pm
KenoraPilot wrote:
Tue Sep 10, 2019 3:36 pm
First Oct GS full, not sure bout next two in October.
Do you know the dates of the remaining 2?
Oct 7
Oct 15
Oct 28
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Re: New hire bids

Post by mixturerich » Wed Sep 11, 2019 8:31 am

The young people working at Jazz who are complaining about the job or the company are idiots. It doesn’t get much better! Go find a different career because if you’re not happy working at Jazz, you probably won’t be happy anywhere, ever.

It’s the people that complain about the job itself as if they didn’t know what being a pilot would be like. That pisses me off the most. I’m just trying to enjoy my pairing. If you don’t like being a pilot go do something else or keep your negative mouth shut.
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Re: New hire bids

Post by kingskate8 » Wed Sep 11, 2019 9:10 am

KenoraPilot wrote:
Wed Sep 11, 2019 8:09 am
RILEY wrote:
Tue Sep 10, 2019 7:03 pm
KenoraPilot wrote:
Tue Sep 10, 2019 3:36 pm
First Oct GS full, not sure bout next two in October.
Do you know the dates of the remaining 2?
Oct 7
Oct 15
Oct 28
Are these groundschool all for GGN?
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Re: New hire bids

Post by KenoraPilot » Wed Sep 11, 2019 10:33 am

kingskate8 wrote:
Wed Sep 11, 2019 9:10 am
KenoraPilot wrote:
Wed Sep 11, 2019 8:09 am
RILEY wrote:
Tue Sep 10, 2019 7:03 pm


Do you know the dates of the remaining 2?
Oct 7
Oct 15
Oct 28
Are these groundschool all for GGN?

Unknown
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Re: New hire bids

Post by kingskate8 » Wed Sep 11, 2019 12:09 pm

KenoraPilot wrote:
Wed Sep 11, 2019 10:33 am
kingskate8 wrote:
Wed Sep 11, 2019 9:10 am
KenoraPilot wrote:
Wed Sep 11, 2019 8:09 am


Oct 7
Oct 15
Oct 28
Are these groundschool all for GGN?

Unknown
Just got the magical call! I start groundschool Oct. 15th!
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Re: New hire bids

Post by KenoraPilot » Wed Sep 11, 2019 6:32 pm

kingskate8 wrote:
Wed Sep 11, 2019 12:09 pm
KenoraPilot wrote:
Wed Sep 11, 2019 10:33 am
kingskate8 wrote:
Wed Sep 11, 2019 9:10 am


Are these groundschool all for GGN?

Unknown
Just got the magical call! I start groundschool Oct. 15th!

Congrats & welcome aboard!
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Re: New hire bids

Post by kingskate8 » Wed Sep 11, 2019 9:54 pm

KenoraPilot wrote:
Wed Sep 11, 2019 6:32 pm
kingskate8 wrote:
Wed Sep 11, 2019 12:09 pm
KenoraPilot wrote:
Wed Sep 11, 2019 10:33 am



Unknown
Just got the magical call! I start groundschool Oct. 15th!

Congrats & welcome aboard!
Thanks!
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Re: New hire bids

Post by Canoehead » Sat Sep 28, 2019 3:46 pm

kingskate8 wrote:
Wed Sep 11, 2019 9:10 am
Are these groundschool all for GGN?
No
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Re: New hire bids

Post by KenoraPilot » Wed Oct 02, 2019 9:57 am

Upcoming Jazz GS's:

3 in Oct (Classes filled)
2 in Nov
1 planned in Dec

(GS's are a mix of OTS and GGN)
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Re: New hire bids

Post by de St-Exup Fan » Mon Oct 07, 2019 12:43 pm

Heard that the two last GS were yvr Q4 only, is that base super empty and they try to fill it up or is there still some quick lateral movement to other bases possible early during training or right after it ( In other words, should I plan to establish in YVR for 20 minutes or 20 centuries? :lol: )
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Re: New hire bids

Post by flyingcanuck » Mon Oct 07, 2019 12:48 pm

de St-Exup Fan wrote:
Mon Oct 07, 2019 12:43 pm
Heard that the two last GS were yvr Q4 only, is that base super empty and they try to fill it up or is there still some quick lateral movement to other bases possible early during training or right after it ( In other words, should I plan to establish in YVR for 20 minutes or 20 centuries? :lol: )
Lots of vacancies there. A friend of mine showed me their open flying I couldn't believe how much there was.
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Re: New hire bids

Post by LicensedToThrill » Mon Oct 07, 2019 8:49 pm

I know this is dependent on many factors but what would the average time be to bid from a YVR to eastern base like YUL or YYZ?
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Re: New hire bids

Post by RILEY » Tue Oct 08, 2019 5:49 am

Another GS started this week, anyone happen to know what was offered ?
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Re: New hire bids

Post by flyingcanuck » Tue Oct 08, 2019 7:33 am

LicensedToThrill wrote:
Mon Oct 07, 2019 8:49 pm
I know this is dependent on many factors but what would the average time be to bid from a YVR to eastern base like YUL or YYZ?
YUL probably right away. YYZ i don't know, probably a while type depending.
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Re: New hire bids

Post by Inverted2 » Tue Oct 08, 2019 8:54 am

I would say the majority of GGN pilots coming over will likely want YYZ base. YYZ used to be the most junior base but not any more. Quite a few retirements in the next 2-3 years though.
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Re: New hire bids

Post by Station61 » Wed Oct 09, 2019 6:18 pm

So a new pilot at Jazz, for the foreseeable future, would likely be looking at a western base ? And a hard time bidding back out east to YYZ?
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Re: New hire bids

Post by de St-Exup Fan » Wed Oct 09, 2019 8:41 pm

RILEY wrote:
Tue Oct 08, 2019 5:49 am
Another GS started this week, anyone happen to know what was offered ?
YVR Q4 only
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Re: New hire bids

Post by kingskate8 » Wed Oct 09, 2019 9:18 pm

de St-Exup Fan wrote:
Wed Oct 09, 2019 8:41 pm
RILEY wrote:
Tue Oct 08, 2019 5:49 am
Another GS started this week, anyone happen to know what was offered ?
YVR Q4 only
Wonder whats our’s gonna be on Oct 15th 😁 Im excited!
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