Air Canada staff will no longer greet 'ladies and gentlemen' onboard planes

[Victory]

No, the non-binary people feel they are neither male nor female. That's what this is catering to I think.

[altiplano]

No, the non-binary people feel they are neither male nor female. That's what this is catering to I think.

They are entitled to feel that way, but do they have a vagina or penis?

[Victory]

No, the non-binary people feel they are neither male nor female. That's what this is catering to I think.

They are entitled to feel that way, but do they have a vagina or penis?

Don't do a google image search unless you want to be very traumatized.

[altiplano]

LOL...

[Capt. Underpants]

There's nothing quite like a bunch of people who have no idea what it's like to feel excluded passing judgement on those who would dare to express such feelings.

[FICU]

Who exactly does ladies and gentlemen exclude? If you are a transgender woman would you not want to be called lady? Same for a transgender man. Please someone fill me in since I think I'm getting old and out of touch with society.

Pat... It's time for androgyny... it's Pat!

"Ladies, Gentleman, and Pat"

[FICU]

I think we're all rather confused, fortunately not as confused as Air Canada managment regarding this change though.

*shaking head*

Air Canada is a supporter of the Liberal Party...

Trudoh is pushing his identity/Gender agenda into the skies.

We could always say "Peoplekind, welcome aboard"

[rookiepilot]

"self loading cargo, sit down and shut up".

I know you all think that --

[schnitzel2k3]

I think we're all rather confused, fortunately not as confused as Air Canada managment regarding this change though.

*shaking head*

Air Canada is a supporter of the Liberal Party...

Trudoh is pushing his identity/Gender agenda into the skies.

We could always say "Peoplekind, welcome aboard"

*Facepalm*

[Capt. Underpants]

I think we're all rather confused, fortunately not as confused as Air Canada managment regarding this change though.

*shaking head*

Air Canada is a supporter of the Liberal Party...

Trudoh is pushing his identity/Gender agenda into the skies.

We could always say "Peoplekind, welcome aboard"

Wrong. The Schere campaign is the one flying with AC, not Trudeau.

[bald seagull]

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Mind you, with some of the comments on this thread, it seems there are scant few in the cockpit either.
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Careful........this term is NOT gender neutral!

[FICU]

I think we're all rather confused, fortunately not as confused as Air Canada managment regarding this change though.

*shaking head*

Air Canada is a supporter of the Liberal Party...

Trudoh is pushing his identity/Gender agenda into the skies.

We could always say "Peoplekind, welcome aboard"

Wrong. The Schere campaign is the one flying with AC, not Trudeau.

It's not about who's flying with who it's about AC donating to the Liberal party.

[plhought]

It's not about who's flying with who it's about AC donating to the Liberal party.

Do some research.

https://special.nationalpost.com/follow ... ey/feature

AC has given plenty to all parties in the past. From candidate donations to party donations. It even a sizeable chunk to Ontario Conservatives in 2015.

Even WestJet gave the Liberals 20,000 bucks back in the day.

[dashtrash1]

Air Canada is a supporter of the Liberal Party...

Trudoh is pushing his identity/Gender agenda into the skies.

We could always say "Peoplekind, welcome aboard"

[Zaibatsu]

I think we're all rather confused, fortunately not as confused as Air Canada managment regarding this change though.

*shaking head*

Air Canada is a supporter of the Liberal Party...

Trudoh is pushing his identity/Gender agenda into the skies.

We could always say "Peoplekind, welcome aboard"

Did you come to that conclusion by matching colours? Like you did in kindergarten?

Does that mean Westjet is Conservative?

Does Flair support the Green Party?

What party does Swoop support?

LMfAO

[Zaibatsu]

Slavery, Jim Crow segregation - all Democrat supported/enacted laws.

That’s great. Do you want a cookie. Not once did I mention the Democratic Party.

But if you think the Democratic Party has always been left wing and the Republican Party right wing, here’s some history lessons.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solid_South

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_strategy

You're the one spelling "colored" wrong... and bringing up ridiculous comparisons.

I spell it in my own language. Kind of like how we spell and say a whole pile of things in our own language rather than the original language. Is that the best you can come up with?

As for ridiculous comparisons, let’s take a look at the definition of Conservative vs liberal and see which side of his to ry each was on?

Liberal: open to new behavior or opinions and willing to discard traditional values.

Conservative: holding to traditional attitudes and values and cautious about change or innovation, typically in relation to politics or religion.

Standing against every advance in society, from democracy, separation of church and state, free speech, the end of slavery, universal suffrage, women’s rights, the end of Jim Crow laws, gay rights, and so on were a bunch of conservatives on the wrong side of history who wanted to keep traditional values.

[altiplano]

Yeah I didn't put much energy into that, but still, if you're describing the sign, may as well be accurate.

Seriously though? The Holocaust? Slavery? Jim Crow segregation laws? Gay bashing? Airplane announcements? Is that really a valid parallel to draw here?

The problem you have is you're quick to infer that anyone who doesn't immediately align with your vision of a society aligned to an identity based, politically correct viewpoint, is immediately a racist, bigoted Nazi.

Your hyperbole disrespects the events you list.

[C.W.E.]

The problem you have is you're quick to infer that anyone who doesn't immediately align with your vision of a society aligned to an identity based, politically correct viewpoint, is immediately a racist, bigoted Nazi.

He sure would be a joy to have to fly with.

[Pilotin]

Great to see Air Canada leading with this, a small gesture that can mean a lot to those who don't identify male/female.

[ReserveTank]

EDITED

[C-GGGQ]

Great to see Air Canada leading with this, a small gesture that can mean a lot to those who don't identify male/female.

Again as I stated earlier. The internal logic doesn't hold. Male and female are by their own admission biological sexes not genders. Man and woman are the genders they say so when your ID says M or F (show me one that says M or W) it's talking about your Sex/Sexe(for our Francophones) not gender. No one cares what your gender is. But biological sex has pertinent medical implications which is why it's on your ID.

[CpnCrunch]

Ah, it all becomes clear now.

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/ar ... or/580465/

[photofly]

But biological sex has pertinent medical implications which is why it's on your ID.

Clearly false. If a medical practitioner really needs to check what's on your id to determine if you have (or had) a penis at any stage of your life, run - don't walk - to seek service elsewhere.

More seriously, none of the various Royal Colleges of Physicians, Surgeons, Nurses or other medical professionals have any requirement for ID to show sex. While your genetic constitution has implications for medical issues, there are plenty of other chromosomal determinants of health which we don't write on documents, and if a doctor needs to know your original biological sex, they can look in your chart, or they can just ask you.

There's actually no good reason for ID to say male or female; it's just a hangover from a time when men had to be men and women had to be women or else the sky would fall on our heads.

[C-GGGQ]

But biological sex has pertinent medical implications which is why it's on your ID.

Clearly false. If a medical practitioner really needs to check what's on your id to determine if you have (or had) a penis at any stage of your life, run - don't walk - to seek service elsewhere.

More seriously, none of the various Royal Colleges of Physicians, Surgeons, Nurses or other medical professionals have any requirement for ID to show sex. While your genetic constitution has implications for medical issues, there are plenty of other chromosomal determinants of health which we don't write on documents, and if a doctor needs to know your original biological sex, they can look in your chart, or they can just ask you.

There's actually no good reason for ID to say male or female; it's just a hangover from a time when men had to be men and women had to be women or else the sky would fall on our heads.

While I disagree, say you're in a car crash hauled in by ambulance they check your provincial medical card and would tell the physicians 35 year old female etc. Since males and females have different risk factors, it's really moot to my point that since M and F are recognized by the lgbtq2 community as biological sex and completely separate from your gender, putting X down on your Id is assinine since that's your gender and not what's on the ID. All I'm saying is be consistent with your logic, which time and time again the people advocating for these changes are not.

[jakeandelwood]

This whole gender thing is getting ridiculous, what's next, gender neutral plumbing fittings?