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Surely a Waterbomber doesn't need that much maintenance. Jazz flies their Dash 8s year round and with much higher utilization. Waterbombers have different systems, but I can't imagine it's that extreme. You'd need quite a few more mechanics so you can do 40hrs man-hours of maintenance in the 4 hour down time overnight and the plane is back available by sunrise.
Jazz wouldn't have near the cycles of a scooper, nor the time spent in turbulence.goingnowherefast wrote: ↑Tue Jan 14, 2020 4:13 pmSurely a Waterbomber doesn't need that much maintenance. Jazz flies their Dash 8s year round and with much higher utilization. Waterbombers have different systems, but I can't imagine it's that extreme. You'd need quite a few more mechanics so you can do 40hrs man-hours of maintenance in the 4 hour down time overnight and the plane is back available by sunrise.
If you want to double or triple the aircraft utilization, you'll need 3 or 4 times the manpower.
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interesting thought. but if all those planes are flying all year round, when will maintenance happen? on the ship?
[/quote]Surely a Waterbomber doesn't need that much maintenance. Jazz flies their Dash 8s year round and with much higher utilization. Waterbombers have different systems, but I can't imagine it's that extreme. You'd need quite a few more mechanics so you can do 40hrs man-hours of maintenance in the 4 hour down time overnight and the plane is back available by sunrise.
If you want to double or triple the aircraft utilization, you'll need 3 or 4 times the manpower.
The article said ferrying them would be costly, risky and logistically challenging considering they fly slow and would require many fuel stops in not ideal countries or open water. A container ship would probably be cheaper to send them all over together.
And this is why consultants get paid high fees. To come up with complete horseshit that someone else can then say they got from a consultant. Use the planes year round, sure. If the seasons work out and you have the time for training.Fraser said the companies originally involved in the pitch in 2016 studied the logistics of flying water bombers between Canada and Australia and concluded it would be complicated, even perilous, to refuel the aircraft along the way in less-than-friendly nations.
You have got to be joking, or just a manager.goingnowherefast wrote: ↑Tue Jan 14, 2020 4:13 pmSurely a Waterbomber doesn't need that much maintenance. Jazz flies their Dash 8s year round and with much higher utilization. Waterbombers have different systems, but I can't imagine it's that extreme. You'd need quite a few more mechanics so you can do 40hrs man-hours of maintenance in the 4 hour down time overnight and the plane is back available by sunrise.
If you want to double or triple the aircraft utilization, you'll need 3 or 4 times the manpower.
I wouldn’t be so sure of that. Not to take anything whatever away from the very challenging work that the scoopers do, there’s a lot of old Classic Dash 8’s still in the Jazz fleet that have reliably done ten’s of thousands of cycles on flights like YVR-YYJ, YYZ-YXU or YHZ-YYG in all kinds of weather all year every year for 30+ years. Bombardier/Dehavilland builds TOUGH airplanes.Redneck_pilot86 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 14, 2020 4:50 pmJazz wouldn't have near the cycles of a scooper, nor the time spent in turbulence.goingnowherefast wrote: ↑Tue Jan 14, 2020 4:13 pmSurely a Waterbomber doesn't need that much maintenance. Jazz flies their Dash 8s year round and with much higher utilization. Waterbombers have different systems, but I can't imagine it's that extreme. You'd need quite a few more mechanics so you can do 40hrs man-hours of maintenance in the 4 hour down time overnight and the plane is back available by sunrise.
If you want to double or triple the aircraft utilization, you'll need 3 or 4 times the manpower.
Most of the classic fleet is at or around 70,000hrs and similar number of cycles. Especially the ones that live out west doing multiple YCD's, YYJ's and YQQ's all day long. 365 days a year. The Tankers fly how much???? a few missions a summer?Redneck_pilot86 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 14, 2020 4:50 pm Jazz wouldn't have near the cycles of a scooper, nor the time spent in turbulence.