Who's gotten a lay off?
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Re: Who's gotten a lay off?
Sunwing Airlines announced it will suspend operations after March 23, 2020 and all pilots, approximately 470 in total, will be laid off on April 8, 2020
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Absolutely....in a dog-eat-dog world.doiwannabeapilot wrote: ↑Wed Mar 18, 2020 7:17 am Regarding the airline exec.....Who cares? If you want to be an airline exec, go apply. Tell HR you can do a better job.
Do you begrudge the basketball player that gets $30,000 per shot (whether its in or not) or the actor that gets a mill an episode, or the rapper that promotes crap?
Start your own airline.
IMO, good corporate leadership would recognise that if the employees are hurting, then the management should be seen to hurt also...
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Re: Who's gotten a lay off?
all 4 rotational 1900 capt north wright got 6 mth layoff notices according to an f/0 up there. these are 10 and 15000 + hour guys
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I feel the same way, just pointing out the trade we are making. My parents are in the 15%+ mortality rate age range, I'm in the 2% group. If anyone thinks this will blow over in 2 weeks they are naive. Economically we are sitting on a everything bubble. We're betting the house of cards that we call a world economy, on this.
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Re: Who's gotten a lay off?
(703 operator) Thunder Airlines laid off a ton of people from Thunder Bay and TImmins.
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Ouch. I flew with them before going 705 and I loved working there.iamthecaptainnow13 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 18, 2020 2:01 pm (703 operator) Thunder Airlines laid off a ton of people from Thunder Bay and TImmins.
Troubling times for all. But we'll get through it. The world has seen worse and life goes on.
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Re: Who's gotten a lay off?
Wasaya has triggered the lay-off mechanism in the collective agreement.
The fact that northern operators are not safe says it all.
The fact that northern operators are not safe says it all.
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Do you have a reference for this? If this is the case, it’d be the first time I can remember a small operation not being able to whether the storm.
iamthecaptainnow13 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 18, 2020 2:01 pm (703 operator) Thunder Airlines laid off a ton of people from Thunder Bay and TImmins.
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I don't have a web link I can provide just conversation I had with 2 of my friends who were working for the company. 1 was Timmins base the other was Thunder Bay Base.flyinhigh wrote: ↑Wed Mar 18, 2020 4:22 pm Do you have a reference for this? If this is the case, it’d be the first time I can remember a small operation not being able to whether the storm.
iamthecaptainnow13 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 18, 2020 2:01 pm (703 operator) Thunder Airlines laid off a ton of people from Thunder Bay and TImmins.
Re: Who's gotten a lay off?
If you want to know what’s going to happen at AC and Express/Jazz,
“Air Canada, Canada’s largest airline, announced it will gradually suspend its international and U.S. flights by March 31 and drastically cut its domestic and cross-border schedules until at least April 30.
While it will operate flights in the short term to repatriate travellers stuck abroad, after April 1 it plans to cut the number of airports it services internationally to six from 101; in the United States to 13 from 53; and domestically to 40 airports from 62.”
“Air Canada, Canada’s largest airline, announced it will gradually suspend its international and U.S. flights by March 31 and drastically cut its domestic and cross-border schedules until at least April 30.
While it will operate flights in the short term to repatriate travellers stuck abroad, after April 1 it plans to cut the number of airports it services internationally to six from 101; in the United States to 13 from 53; and domestically to 40 airports from 62.”
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Re: Who's gotten a lay off?
how Sky can be done when the majority of the US flying available for April is Sky's flying? I am as surprised as you to see so many of those flights operated by Sky. Good for them though!
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It’s not ‘sky’s flying’.
It belongs to whoever AC decides should do it. I suspect the company is coming to ACPA with some pretty big requests right now and ACPA will be trying to save as many ACPA jobs as possible.
It belongs to whoever AC decides should do it. I suspect the company is coming to ACPA with some pretty big requests right now and ACPA will be trying to save as many ACPA jobs as possible.
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Totally agree with you. But if you simulate those flights on AC website it’s (still) operated by Sky mostly. Might change thought. Who knows.Sharklasers wrote: ↑Wed Mar 18, 2020 6:00 pm It’s not ‘sky’s flying’.
It belongs to whoever AC decides should do it. I suspect the company is coming to ACPA with some pretty big requests right now and ACPA will be trying to save as many ACPA jobs as possible.
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Re: Who's gotten a lay off?
We got a memo saying layoffs are coming. Just don’t know how many as of yet.
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Re: Who's gotten a lay off?
Things are literally changing by the hour. I wouldn't put a lot of trust in website that long term.
All I know is if there's one thing ACPA for all their faults doesn't @#$! around with it's scope. And if AC is seeing layoffs but Sky and Jazz are still flying our routes around you can be sure they will try to address it.
Force mejeure clauses exist exactly for situations like this.
All I know is if there's one thing ACPA for all their faults doesn't @#$! around with it's scope. And if AC is seeing layoffs but Sky and Jazz are still flying our routes around you can be sure they will try to address it.
Force mejeure clauses exist exactly for situations like this.
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Lay offs certain to happen at Jazz. Once AC decides what they need but given what has already been announced. I would say all transborder flying that Jazz does on behalf of AC is gone. As AC is cutting back on domestic requirements there will likewise be a reduction at Jazz. I would not be surprised if at minimum 50% of the pilot roster gets a pink slip.
This is not going to be a quick recovery. This is not a problem isolated to aviation. Several industries are shutting down and the service industry is perhaps taking the biggest hit. When the dust settles it will not be life as it was before. When you see how the stock markets have taken a hit and the uncertainty that exists worldwide all I can say folks is go back and read up on the Great Depression. Buckle up tight we have hit severe turbulence!
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Some pretty smart people in the industry think otherwise.prop2jet wrote: ↑Wed Mar 18, 2020 7:08 pmLay offs certain to happen at Jazz. Once AC decides what they need but given what has already been announced. I would say all transborder flying that Jazz does on behalf of AC is gone. As AC is cutting back on domestic requirements there will likewise be a reduction at Jazz. I would not be surprised if at minimum 50% of the pilot roster gets a pink slip.
This is not going to be a quick recovery. This is not a problem isolated to aviation. Several industries are shutting down and the service industry is perhaps taking the biggest hit. When the dust settles it will not be life as it was before. When you see how the stock markets have taken a hit and the uncertainty that exists worldwide all I can say folks is go back and read up on the Great Depression. Buckle up tight we have hit severe turbulence!
Google what the Fed ex CEO said about predicting a v shape recovery, they have been dealing with this since the beginning in Wuhan and have seen the progression. Might not be the end of the world, lots of people want to go and do things, are educated and want to make money. It's not 1929. Things may look a bit different once its played out, but this might level the playing field a little.
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