Save Canadian Aviation March in Ottawa Oct 20th

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Re: Save Canadian Aviation March in Ottawa Oct 20th

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The march is on. Those that can please join us. The more the better.
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If there was going to be help it would have happened by now. The federal government is eerily turning a blind eye to this situation for a reason. Wake up!
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RRJetPilot wrote: Thu Oct 08, 2020 9:05 am I support you Gilles. Keep fighting the good fight. If I was not on the west coast I would be there. And to the last post, there is so much wrong with what the troll wrote, no point acknowledging it. Good luck!
whats a short flight that probably cost you pennies to support a great cause?
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172_Captain wrote: Thu Oct 08, 2020 8:45 am Sorry but no.

What exactly do you want the government to do? Travel is down due to a global pandemic, this will continue this way for the foreseeable future. No amount of spending or stimulus is going to encourage people to get on a plane. That money would be better spent IMO supporting the people then corporations that privatize gains while socializing the losses.

Why should my tax dollars go towards funding for an airlines that has a CA paying people 75%-100% wages for sitting at home? You really want to save the airlines? Fall on your sword and give up your salary expense and save them the money.

Also, wouldn't advise a march in a COVID hotspot either. Not really the right look if you want to be taken seriously, again IMO. The perception of the airlines industry is that airlines are evil, and the pilots are already overpaid considering the autopilot does everything. Organizing a gathering while the second wave picks up steam isn't really the best approach.
Agree 💯
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Heliian wrote: Fri Oct 09, 2020 5:40 am You mean "save the Canadian airline industry".

A lot of other sectors are still functioning and adjusting.
Agree 💯, airlines have had it good for a very long time. GA,
Rotary, corporate, management, and MRO’s know well the feast and famine since the beginning, think of the changes in the last 10 years in the aforementioned! Survival of the fittest, there is a Darwinism to the entire industry, maybe these aircraft certified for 75 seating capacity now pushing close to 150 need to figure out a better way to make profit.
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Hey, to all those that are commenting airlines deserve it, let them fail (or mimicking sentiments along those lines), do you work in the industry? Are you a pilot, flight attendant, ame, or in any other position, that your livelihood depends directly on the well being of airlines?

If you are... well then I have no idea why you'd even make such comments

If you're not, shut up and move along and stop trolling. I don't like a lot of the shit that airlines or aviation companies pull on their clients (paying pax), or their employees... there is a lot of shady shit without a doubt, but the reality is, it's the same crap everywhere else, doesn't matter what industry you work in.

I'd like to have a future in this industry, but those who don't can bugger off, it doesn't affect you so it's not your place to comment
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Re: Save Canadian Aviation March in Ottawa Oct 20th

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Some People come out here to dish out their anonymous frustrations at the World. I come here to pass a message. Not frustrations.

The march is on. Those that want to join, 11:30 at LeBreton flats, Oct 20th. Bring your mask. Respect Social Distancing. Comply with police instructions. Follow the instructions of the organizers of the march. If possible bring a sign that asks the Government to Save Canadian Aviation.

Conspiracy people, anti maskers etc. stay clear.
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can not find any public notice of this march. Has it been published anywhere other than this forum?
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A press release is going out tomorrow.

CBC radio in French mentioned it on Oct 14th

https://news.paxeditions.com/news/buzz/ ... ged-attend
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Sadly, the march will likely be as effective as the one made by proponents of firearms reform that happened recently - well, it was briefly mentioned by the media that a few "nut cases" marched in Ottawa demanding machine guns for all...

This government could not care less about the opinions of groups that make up a relatively small portion of the electorate, petitions are ignored, letters/emails unanswered, parliament prorogued, etc.

Having said that, it is better to march and make your voices heard than to do nothing at all. Good luck.
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I can’t be there.

But hope all of you the best.
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Heliian wrote: Fri Oct 09, 2020 5:40 am You mean "save the Canadian airline industry".

A lot of other sectors are still functioning and adjusting.
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Rename the thread and the March if you don’t want a response. This time is the busiest I’ve ever been.
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twa22 wrote: Sun Oct 18, 2020 2:25 am Hey, to all those that are commenting airlines deserve it, let them fail (or mimicking sentiments along those lines), do you work in the industry? Are you a pilot, flight attendant, ame, or in any other position, that your livelihood depends directly on the well being of airlines?

If you are... well then I have no idea why you'd even make such comments

If you're not, shut up and move along and stop trolling. I don't like a lot of the shit that airlines or aviation companies pull on their clients (paying pax), or their employees... there is a lot of shady shit without a doubt, but the reality is, it's the same crap everywhere else, doesn't matter what industry you work in.

I'd like to have a future in this industry, but those who don't can bugger off, it doesn't affect you so it's not your place to comment
100% with you! So many keyboard warriors on this forum. All they do is talk but no actions. People in aviation step out of their home and march while you losers here use your keyboard to write useless shits
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Gilles Hudicourt wrote: Sun Oct 18, 2020 1:35 pm A press release is going out tomorrow.

CBC radio in French mentioned it on Oct 14th

https://news.paxeditions.com/news/buzz/ ... ged-attend
Thank you Gilles for organizing this event!
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smooth wrote: Tue Oct 20, 2020 10:52 am
twa22 wrote: Sun Oct 18, 2020 2:25 am Hey, to all those that are commenting airlines deserve it, let them fail (or mimicking sentiments along those lines), do you work in the industry? Are you a pilot, flight attendant, ame, or in any other position, that your livelihood depends directly on the well being of airlines?

If you are... well then I have no idea why you'd even make such comments

If you're not, shut up and move along and stop trolling. I don't like a lot of the shit that airlines or aviation companies pull on their clients (paying pax), or their employees... there is a lot of shady shit without a doubt, but the reality is, it's the same crap everywhere else, doesn't matter what industry you work in.

I'd like to have a future in this industry, but those who don't can bugger off, it doesn't affect you so it's not your place to comment
100% with you! So many keyboard warriors on this forum. All they do is talk but no actions. People in aviation step out of their home and march while you losers here use your keyboard to write useless shits
So those that have an opposing view point from yours are losers and keyboard warriors? And you want people to hear you and consider what you have to say valid?

And for the record, I am in aviation. Just admittedly not in a sector that is affected by this turndown. Many of my friends are however, and yet I still do not support this cause.
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So,

How was the walk?
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Cappo1 wrote: Thu Oct 08, 2020 1:03 pm The person who started this whole protest only became concerned when it became doubtful that the deal between AC and his airline would potentially not materialize. Prior to that, he was the first one to hail DOH in a seniority merge, and since then his attitude has changed to the extent he wants all airlines to shut down. So now with the protest he wants borders lifted and fill flights with ghost customers ? Which one is it ?
Good to see others have figured this out as well.

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How about as Canadians we stick up for each other as a whole and drop the special treatment business. A lotta folks are hurting out there and need help...
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rookiepilot wrote: Tue Oct 20, 2020 5:26 pm How about as Canadians we stick up for each other as a whole and drop the special treatment business. A lotta folks are hurting out there and need help...
Couldn’t agree more. Yes, aviation is hurting badly but will survive in some shape or form, rest assured. Many small business owners that I know personally and helped out are on the brink of losing everything they worked for. That’s disastrous to say the least.
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The world is a cruel place and it isn't fair. Everybody in almost every industry is affected badly by this. Aviation was good for many for a little while, and now it isn't. It is just reality.
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https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/aviato ... -1.5770398

Well done Gilles!
What you did today was great. Airline employees all over the country are struggling. The elected members can now see who these people are. Thank you for doing that.
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Ypilot wrote: Tue Oct 20, 2020 8:21 pm https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/aviato ... -1.5770398

Well done Gilles!
What you did today was great. Airline employees all over the country are struggling. The elected members can now see who these people are. Thank you for doing that.
Sadly, Trudeau’s acknowledgment referred to the $1B CEWS already spend on this matter. The rally or whatever that was only got a few minutes of airtime and is already forgotten. Remember this come election time, this government sees united delta and AA flight availability at all major airports.
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Ypilot wrote: Tue Oct 20, 2020 8:21 pm https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/aviato ... -1.5770398

Well done Gilles!
What you did today was great. Airline employees all over the country are struggling. The elected members can now see who these people are. Thank you for doing that.
The comment section on the cbc article is an interesting/difficult read.
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CL-Skadoo! wrote: Wed Oct 21, 2020 5:56 am
Ypilot wrote: Tue Oct 20, 2020 8:21 pm https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/aviato ... -1.5770398

Well done Gilles!
What you did today was great. Airline employees all over the country are struggling. The elected members can now see who these people are. Thank you for doing that.
The comment section on the cbc article is an interesting/difficult read.
I don’t think it’s that difficult a read myself. It gives a pretty good indication how the general public and likely people in politics really feel about the airlines. It’s coming from the prospective of ones not bias on the inside and have no stake in what happens. As I said in my first post, the general public has no sympathy for the airlines.
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172_Captain wrote: Wed Oct 21, 2020 6:18 am
CL-Skadoo! wrote: Wed Oct 21, 2020 5:56 am
Ypilot wrote: Tue Oct 20, 2020 8:21 pm https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/aviato ... -1.5770398

Well done Gilles!
What you did today was great. Airline employees all over the country are struggling. The elected members can now see who these people are. Thank you for doing that.
The comment section on the cbc article is an interesting/difficult read.
I don’t think it’s that difficult a read myself. It gives a pretty good indication how the general public and likely people in politics really feel about the airlines. It’s coming from the prospective of ones not bias on the inside and have no stake in what happens. As I said in my first post, the general public has no sympathy for the airlines.
Agreed, people don't like large billion dollar corporations that are notorious for jerking them around. However, people should like other human beings, especially ones who work hard, pay their taxes and are just trying to get by as best they can. The key is separating the big scary company that lost your bag and delayed your connection to Salt Lake city from human beings. I think from your posts you have the capacity to do that; the comment section on CBC, not so much. That was where the difficulty came in having to read that.

I'm not an airline guy, my sector took no hit from COVID, but I must stand beside our colleagues that slug it out in the terminals and jetways.
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