Hero Pilot Narrowly Avoided Crashing into the School

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Re: VIDEO - Aftermath of Hero Pilot Narrowly Avoided Crashing into the School

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goldeneagle wrote: Tue Oct 27, 2020 7:16 am There are no new ways to damage / crash an airplane. Every one that happens these days, has been tried before. There are no new lessons to be learned, only lessons to be re-taught because folks didn't clue in, or missed the class, last time around.

Heck even here on Avcan in this section, look at the first few pages of threads. How many ways are there to run out of gas ? Does it make a difference what excuse you use for running out of gas, every thread has a different excuse, but all have the same outcome. Aircraft landed in a spot that was not originally planned, and in most cases, incurred damage during landing.

So, no, there is absolutely NOTHING to learn from this incident. If you haven't learned the dangers of empty fuel tanks from the hundreds of prior incidents that came about due to empty fuel tanks, then no, you wont learn anything from this incident either. And if you have learned from past incidents, then this one is not required to reinforce that lesson. So no, there is nothing to learn here.
I would disagree. I think there were good lessons to be learned from MH370, IR655, and MH17, to name just three off the top of my head from recent memory - plus those two Max 8's.

There's probably very little to be learned in terms of what can go wrong mechanically, especially in small general aviation aircraft, but in terms of human factors, I think there's always something to be learned. Otherwise, why are we bothering to investigate accidents at all?

This incident specifically? Nah - there's nothing to be learned IMHO. The PIC made a stupid mistake.
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Re: Hero Pilot Narrowly Avoided Crashing into the School

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I still believe there are good lessons to be learned here.

I will give it a couple of more days for those who oppose my assertion to make their losing cases. and I will then give my crushing response :smt040




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Re: Hero Pilot Narrowly Avoided Crashing into the School

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I did not look at the area around but if the field was full of kids playing do you think he would have landed there?

As for the AC crew that erased the CVR that should be cause for termination. If things went down like they said why did you erase it? It would prove you were right or full of shit.
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Re: Hero Pilot Narrowly Avoided Crashing into the School

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PT6-114A wrote: Wed Oct 28, 2020 7:10 am
As for the AC crew that erased the CVR that should be cause for termination. If things went down like they said why did you erase it? It would prove you were right or full of shit.
That's a very good question, which won't be answered, because the echo chamber seems to be -- at times -- a million excuses for professional pilots making 200K a year, and unload on student pilots who screw up their first solo landing.

Way too many gave those AC pilots a pass.

Fair?
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Re: Hero Pilot Narrowly Avoided Crashing into the School

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PT6-114A wrote: Wed Oct 28, 2020 7:10 am I did not look at the area around but if the field was full of kids playing do you think he would have landed there?

As for the AC crew that erased the CVR that should be cause for termination. If things went down like they said why did you erase it? It would prove you were right or full of shit.
I am not familiar with the Symantecs of termination for a unionized company, but I hope there was some sort of serious reprimand taken place for the Air Canada incident.

@PT6-114, are you a current pilot?



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Re: Hero Pilot Narrowly Avoided Crashing into the School

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@Challenger_nami I am.
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