Pfizer Covid Vaccine shows 90% effectiveness.

[rookiepilot]

https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/09/health/p ... index.html

This news ought to brighten everyone's day.....airline stocks are soaring.

(CNN)Drugmaker Pfizer said Monday an early look at data from its coronavirus vaccine shows it is more than 90% effective -- a much better than expected efficacy if the trend continues.

The so-called interim analysis looked at the first 94 confirmed cases of Covid-19 among the more than 43,000 volunteers who got either two doses of the vaccine or a placebo. It found that fewer than 10% of infections were in participants who had been given the vaccine. More than 90% of the cases were in people who had been given a placebo.

In a news release, the pharmaceutical giant said it plans to seek emergency use authorization from the US Food and Drug Administration soon after volunteers have been monitored for two months after getting their second dose of vaccine, as requested by the FDA.
Pfizer said it anticipated reaching that marker by the third week of November.
The Phase 3 trial of the Pfizer vaccine, made with German partner BioNTech, has enrolled 43,538 particpants since July 27. As of Sunday, 38,955 of the volunteers have received a second dose of the vaccine. The company says 42% of international trial sites and 30% of US trial sites involve volunteers of racially and ethnically diverse backgrounds.
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"With today's news, we are a significant step closer to providing people around the world with a much-needed breakthrough to help bring an end to this global health crisis," Pfizer CEO Albert Bourla said in a statement. "We look forward to sharing additional efficacy and safety data generated from thousands of participants in the coming weeks."

[montado]

One challenge with this vaccine will be transportation temperature is critical, I heard it needs be to stored at - 80.

If I remember correctly I called it that covid has become very political. Not that it's a hoax, but the fear was overblown... So interesting enough the election is called and this huge announcement crushes the markets. Zoom tanked, airlines soar. Everything that was great for pandemic like Amazon are taking a hit.

So give it a couple of months, we will stop testing for covid and get back to normal.

How will all the pro maskers rationalize its now safe to not wear a mask? I don't think the vaccine will eradicate the virus. Anyways very conspiracy theory maybe... The virus was Trump himself (metaphorically speaking) and now that the virus is gone we can move back to normal. Biden was a hero who ended the pandemic by doing nothing. He won't have to do anything controversial like mandatory mask or lockdown, which would destroy him in the ratings... And as fast as covid changed our lives, we will now go back to normal just as fast. I bet by summer 2021, 2020 will just look like a bad dream.

[shamrock104]

I thought the very same thing. Interesting that a vaccine has appeared the very week of a change in Government in the US.

[dhc#]

Next up....Zombie Apocalypse

[Cessna 180]

My guess was if Biden won, the pandemic would be over within 4-6 weeks of inauguration. Not that I think covid is a hoax, but it certainly is very political.

[Human Factor]

A vaccine with a 90% success rate for a virus with a 99.6% survival rate.

Can I go outside now, world governments?

[tsgarp]

Wonder what will happen once the SCOTUS rules that Trump actually won the election.

[Blowin' In The Wind]

Wonder what will happen once the SCOTUS rules that Trump actually won the election.

Don’t hold your breath.

[Inverted2]

My guess was if Biden won, the pandemic would be over within 4-6 weeks of inauguration. Not that I think covid is a hoax, but it certainly is very political.

I think the Chinese wanted Trump gone yesterday because he stands up to them. Very suspicious they released this virus during an election year, but we will see where this all goes..... Biden is talking mask mask mask, but here in Canada the numbers are way up since masks were made mandatory in most areas. As for the vaccine, I hope it works but I won’t be at the front of any line to take it.

[Air.Field]

I thought the very same thing. Interesting that a vaccine has appeared the very week of a change in Government in the US.

At the last debate in Oct, Trump stated a vaccine would be ready or close to, early Nov. or maybe end of year. So we knew this announcement was coming.

[wan2fly99]

Im linning up after the Prime Mister, his wife, his kids, Ford and his family, Gates,,Faucci, Biden all get 3 does each of it

Oh ya, now our Great PM has signed us up for the Covid passport

[AirFrame]

Seems like anyone investing in tinfoil hats is still going to make a killing.

[montado]

I thought the very same thing. Interesting that a vaccine has appeared the very week of a change in Government in the US.

At the last debate in Oct, Trump stated a vaccine would be ready or close to, early Nov. or maybe end of year. So we knew this announcement was coming.

Except that everyone was calling Trump a liar, if I remember correctly experts said things like we will be wearing masks for 3 to 5 more years, and said the first vaccine won't be that effective. So this was all bait and switch... Now that Trump is gone we find out the media pushed their agenda to build fear, all of a sudden Biden is in and Trump wasn't a liar... Vaccine is found and looks like normal could be as soon as spring.

[CpnCrunch]

Except that everyone was calling Trump a liar, if I remember correctly experts said things like we will be wearing masks for 3 to 5 more years, and said the first vaccine won't be that effective. So this was all bait and switch... Now that Trump is gone we find out the media pushed their agenda to build fear, all of a sudden Biden is in and Trump wasn't a liar... Vaccine is found and looks like normal could be as soon as spring.

Trump said the vaccine would be distributed in Oct/Nov. CDC said Nov/Dec and it would take 6 months to vaccinate the whole country (which Trump said was untrue). It looks like even the CDC was slightly optimistic, as it will be Dec/Jan when it is first available, and the -70C requirement means it's going to take time to distribute. Pfizer has created packaging that lets the vaccine be transported in dry ice for 10 days, and it can then be stored in the fridge for 5 days, which means you don't need an ultra-cold freezer, but it will still create some challenges for distribution.

Trump also said you should inject bleach and take hydroxychloroquine, which killed a few people. Not very useful, other than a slight cleanup of the gene pool.

[flyguy73]

Wonder what will happen once the SCOTUS rules that Trump actually won the election.

Yeah, can't wait for them to overrule the same ballots that has the GOP with 50+ Senate seats and more House seats than they had pre-election. Oh wait, you mean that part of the same ballot wasn't fake?

[flyguy73]

My guess was if Biden won, the pandemic would be over within 4-6 weeks of inauguration. Not that I think covid is a hoax, but it certainly is very political.

I think the Chinese wanted Trump gone yesterday because he stands up to them. Very suspicious they released this virus during an election year, but we will see where this all goes..... Biden is talking mask mask mask, but here in Canada the numbers are way up since masks were made mandatory in most areas. As for the vaccine, I hope it works but I won’t be at the front of any line to take it.

Look back to March during the first lockdown and see how COVID numbers decreased. Then look in the summer when lockdowns were eased and see where the numbers went. Here we are today with minimal lockdowns and numbers going up yet we have mandatory masking. But look at countries like the USA without mandatory masking and see that they have 5 times the COVID numbers as Canada. All we have to do it look to them to know that as much as a pain in the ass masks are, they actually do work. So just suck it up snowflake and wear the f'n mask.

[montado]

My guess was if Biden won, the pandemic would be over within 4-6 weeks of inauguration. Not that I think covid is a hoax, but it certainly is very political.

I think the Chinese wanted Trump gone yesterday because he stands up to them. Very suspicious they released this virus during an election year, but we will see where this all goes..... Biden is talking mask mask mask, but here in Canada the numbers are way up since masks were made mandatory in most areas. As for the vaccine, I hope it works but I won’t be at the front of any line to take it.

Look back to March during the first lockdown and see how COVID numbers decreased. Then look in the summer when lockdowns were eased and see where the numbers went. Here we are today with minimal lockdowns and numbers going up yet we have mandatory masking. But look at countries like the USA without mandatory masking and see that they have 5 times the COVID numbers as Canada. All we have to do it look to them to know that as much as a pain in the ass masks are, they actually do work. So just suck it up snowflake and wear the f'n mask.

I always enjoy subjective “proof” that misses so many facts. Firstly in the USA do you even know how many states and municipalities have mandatory masks? 34 states, that’s right, including one of the hardest hit NY. Canadians think Americans are all hillbilly trumpians when for the most part they have very similar policy and similar compliance in most states.

Funny if you look at the graph for NY, mandatory masks happened end of may, however covid cases were already on the decline. Now for some reason cases are trending up, in the state that’s heavily democrat, and mask abiding citizens. (Is this really about mask... or maybe flu season, social distancing, and outdoor activity has way more bearing on outcomes?)

And let me guess, you have an answer for Sweden too, who has been averaging under 5 deaths a day since August. No mandatory mask in Sweden, some people there choose to wear them, however it seems as if the citizens can use their own judgment. Plenty of images from Sweden showing mask use is not really the norm.

Masks doesn’t work well enough to slow the spread. Need some proof just look at all the places with mandatory mask policy, it ain’t working ... But I can tell you what the mask does very very well.. people who don’t have covid, and wear a mask, are doing a great job of not spreading covid... probably because the mask... but I’m not sure..... science....

[mixturerich]

Everyone is an expert here and with so much contradictory evidence how are we supposed to ever figure this out

[northernpilot2]

Get rid of mandatory mask, its bullshit. Vaccine is bullshit. Covid is bullshit. Get over it..

[I WAS Birddog]

Seems like anyone investing in tinfoil hats is still going to make a killing.

What is the stock symbol for that?

[flyguy73]

I think the Chinese wanted Trump gone yesterday because he stands up to them. Very suspicious they released this virus during an election year, but we will see where this all goes..... Biden is talking mask mask mask, but here in Canada the numbers are way up since masks were made mandatory in most areas. As for the vaccine, I hope it works but I won’t be at the front of any line to take it.

Look back to March during the first lockdown and see how COVID numbers decreased. Then look in the summer when lockdowns were eased and see where the numbers went. Here we are today with minimal lockdowns and numbers going up yet we have mandatory masking. But look at countries like the USA without mandatory masking and see that they have 5 times the COVID numbers as Canada. All we have to do it look to them to know that as much as a pain in the ass masks are, they actually do work. So just suck it up snowflake and wear the f'n mask.

I always enjoy subjective “proof” that misses so many facts. Firstly in the USA do you even know how many states and municipalities have mandatory masks? 34 states, that’s right, including one of the hardest hit NY. Canadians think Americans are all hillbilly trumpians when for the most part they have very similar policy and similar compliance in most states.

Funny if you look at the graph for NY, mandatory masks happened end of may, however covid cases were already on the decline. Now for some reason cases are trending up, in the state that’s heavily democrat, and mask abiding citizens. (Is this really about mask... or maybe flu season, social distancing, and outdoor activity has way more bearing on outcomes?)

And let me guess, you have an answer for Sweden too, who has been averaging under 5 deaths a day since August. No mandatory mask in Sweden, some people there choose to wear them, however it seems as if the citizens can use their own judgment. Plenty of images from Sweden showing mask use is not really the norm.

Masks doesn’t work well enough to slow the spread. Need some proof just look at all the places with mandatory mask policy, it ain’t working ... But I can tell you what the mask does very very well.. people who don’t have covid, and wear a mask, are doing a great job of not spreading covid... probably because the mask... but I’m not sure..... science....

Of course masks are not the only answer. Pretty sure nobody ever said they were. They've always said "wear a mask when you can't physically distance". Of course, physical distancing is the best way to prevent getting sick. You won't get sick if you aren't around sick people. You don't need a PhD to deduce that one.

That said, masking is one more element to reduce exposure. NY state is following the same trend of much of Canada that has mandatory masks. NY has about 20 deaths per day. Florida (as state with no mandatory mask policy) has had around 100 deaths per day over the entire summer and is increasing now in the second wave.

And Sweden is averaging at least 10-15 deaths a day in their latest wave and 5,000 cases per day. https://www.worldometers.info/coronavir ... ry/sweden/. I'm not sure why people keep using Sweden (6100 deaths) as an example to uphold? Compare them to Finland (369 deaths) or Norway (300 deaths) and you'll see their plan has been an abject failure.

Seriously, why would you not expect that a disease that is spread by close contact with people that are sick not be reduced through the use of a device meant to reduce the spread of virus particles. I work with the Engineers that develop masks and mask materials and I'm aware how they develop these masks to limit transmission of particles less then 10 nm in size. They obviously have a reason for believing that these are useful for limiting the spread of viruses and have a multitude of tests to validate these things. What is your expertise in reaching your conclusions?

[northernpilot2]

What is your expertise in reaching your conclusions?

Its not the media, that's for sure. You actually believe those numbers are real?

[flyguy73]

What is your expertise in reaching your conclusions?

Its not the media, that's for sure. You actually believe those numbers are real?

You have other knowledge that the rest of us don't? If so, please share and we will evaluate it's credibility. Or is your information as credible as Trump's is about fraudulent voting? So please share your information. Obviously you aren't getting your information from the media, so from where then? QAnon?

[Inverted2]

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/nationalpos ... 7ba3d/amp/

He tested positive twice and negative twice in the same day. They can’t even have accurate tests so I will reserve any judgment for a Bill Gates vaccine.

[CpnCrunch]

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/nationalpos ... 7ba3d/amp/

He tested positive twice and negative twice in the same day.

Perhaps because of this (which you'd have seen if you read the article):

The billionaire said he took a series of rapid antigen tests, which produce results within 15 minutes and are cheaper but less reliable than polymerase chain reaction tests

They can’t even have accurate tests so I will reserve any judgment for a Bill Gates vaccine.

Well, actually, they can, as the article you posted showed.