Pfizer Covid Vaccine shows 90% effectiveness.

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I've read a considerable number of their articles and ones from the referenced foot notes as well. It may be as the saying goes, each must find for himself where beauty lies and so too it is with rationality. As for your referenced Doctor, when I was growing up It was instilled in me that one can judge a person based on the company they keep. In his (Global Research) case that company consists of articles about chemtrails, Tienanmen Square being a hoax and a toxic assortment of certified crazy.
pecessix wrote: Thu Dec 10, 2020 2:35 am
Snipped from an article published in "Global Research". Further to that outfit:

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Globalresearch
I did not snipped it from Global Research, but I found it on mises.org (the website where it was originally published I think)

This RationalWiki is "interesting"... Further to that outfit:
https://www.quora.com/What-is-your-revi ... ki?share=1
And it's easy to question yourself about RationalWiki if you take the time to read its articles.
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valleyboy wrote: Thu Dec 10, 2020 7:36 am
Take a pill folks and relax and think of others and not just a little personal hardship. This is tough for sure but no one is shooting at us or dropping bombs. This is much easier than going to war, just ask your grandfathers, electronically, keep them safe.
Well said.

Covid is annoying but it's a zit in comparison to other things people have, and are, going through. I know this well.
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rookiepilot wrote: Thu Dec 10, 2020 8:13 pm
valleyboy wrote: Thu Dec 10, 2020 7:36 am
Take a pill folks and relax and think of others and not just a little personal hardship. This is tough for sure but no one is shooting at us or dropping bombs. This is much easier than going to war, just ask your grandfathers, electronically, keep them safe.
Well said.

Covid is annoying but it's a zit in comparison to other things people have, and are, going through. I know this well.
Protip: everyone knows this well. My grandparents survived WWII in the Netherlands. I have been viciously violent. My mother died in my arms. My brother is suicidally depressed. We all have our crosses to bear, but to assume that your cross is bigger is the very definition of Pride.

Try to remember that everyone you meet is fighting a battle you know nothing about.
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RedAndWhiteBaron wrote: Thu Dec 10, 2020 9:40 pm
rookiepilot wrote: Thu Dec 10, 2020 8:13 pm
valleyboy wrote: Thu Dec 10, 2020 7:36 am
Take a pill folks and relax and think of others and not just a little personal hardship. This is tough for sure but no one is shooting at us or dropping bombs. This is much easier than going to war, just ask your grandfathers, electronically, keep them safe.
Well said.

Covid is annoying but it's a zit in comparison to other things people have, and are, going through. I know this well.
Protip: everyone knows this well. My grandparents survived WWII in the Netherlands. I have been viciously violent. My mother died in my arms. My brother is suicidally depressed. We all have our crosses to bear, but to assume that your cross is bigger is the very definition of Pride.

Try to remember that everyone you meet is fighting a battle you know nothing about.
^ Well said indeed. A little empathy, a little willingness to understand that everybody faces challenges that aren't necessarily obvious, that not everything is the universe delivering a slap upside the head to oneself, and that life can be completely random, goes a long, long way.
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RedAndWhiteBaron wrote: Thu Dec 10, 2020 9:40 pm
Try to remember that everyone you meet is fighting a battle you know nothing about.

Many have suffered in unimaginable ways before Covid came along, RedAndWhiteBaron.
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EMPATHY..." the capacity to understand what another person is feeling, from within their frame of reference, that is, the capacity to place oneself in another's shoes"

Two psychological terms associated with a Lack of Empathy are Sociopathy and Psychopathy, and when combined with a Narcissistic trait you have the manifestations of a broad range of antisocial behaviors.

In order to manifest Empathy, you, yourself, have to feel that you are part of that something outside of yourself, like your community and more broadly, of Humanity itself.

If this grounding is lacking, for whatever reason, you have the refusal to wear a mask etc, or do anything that may benefit the Common Good.

You have the manifestation of someone like The Donald, now intent on destroying the very foundations of his country's Democracy, and further impoverish millions of his "followers" that so badly need the help they thought would be coming their way.

I am not convinced that one can reason with, or alter the mindset of a sociopathic narcissist without some life altering intervention.

Leading by example is a reasonable alternative in helping the majority of society to stay the course, because we all are in this together, like it or not.
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Rockie wrote: Wed Dec 09, 2020 9:38 am
montado wrote: Wed Dec 09, 2020 9:32 am Vaccine is approved.
Damn those educated people with credentials.
Educated and credentialed people conducted the Tuskegee experiment, produced Thalidomide and sold us saccharine.

The vaccine has moved out of the realm of science and into the realm of politics, kind of like the Challenger launch. I’m not antivax, but I’m not going to be first in line for this one.

Rockie, you are just smart enough to be dangerous.
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https://www.businessinsider.com/coronav ... ts-2020-12

“Several trial participants who were given a shot of the prototype vaccine had tested positive for HIV, despite not having that virus.

The trial vaccine had used parts of a protein found in HIV, which triggered antibodies commonly seen during HIV testing.

Despite the false-positive HIV test results, the trial vaccine was showing promising signs in combating the coronavirus, the University of Queensland said in a Friday statement.”
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This is all I can think of when I read these posts:

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Oh dear.
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I miss the old Simpsons...

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https://www.watoday.com.au/world/south- ... 56ooe.html

Mandatory vaccine in Brazil. I wonder how their leader will backtrack after saying it’s just the flu!
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"Wearing a used mask can be worse than not wearing one at all: Study | Toronto Sun" https://torontosun.com/health/wearing-a ... 40523/amp/

How many people are running around with snotty masks they haven't washed or replaced daily. Probably 80 percent of people. Thank goodness for this vaccination coming so soon or we in north America would be doomed with all these snot infused pro maskers spreading their germs around. Nothing worse than those who virtu signal when their actions are proven to actually be worse for society.
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Nothing worse than those who virtue signal, period.
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https://twitter.com/CBCLorenda/status/1 ... 6583975940

I’m trying to understand this. She says everyone needs to act like they have covid... well if I had covid I would be off work for two weeks, so is everyone booking off work for two weeks and taking her advice?

Oh and masks work, but they don’t work..l that’s right, masks work in Walmart and Costco, but don’t work when you visit family. Hmm... all the mixed messages... how much longer shall we defend mask policy, we are at the point we have gone from masks don’t work, to masks work, and now this experts back to masks don’t really work...oh gawd my brain! I can’t keep up! For some reason I can sit next to people on a plane for hours, go fly in a sim for hours, sit in a class for hours with a mask, but going to visit family with a mask doesn’t work! Show me the science!

I know a handful of people who said they will get together for Christmas with family and they will wear masks inside. They feel pretty safe.. I mean it’s safe right? Like we were told wear masks to stop the spread... this is adequate? Pro maskers where are you... do you see an issue with this? Or can I say masks don’t work... no I can’t say that, don’t let me send misinformation! Don’t let me be a covidiot... masks work, go celebrate Christmas with a mask on!

Ok calling work, time to explain I’m booking off because I was told to act like I have covid.

Idiots.
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My 2¢?

Visiting family is banned here, so I don't do it. (It will shortly be banned in all of ON)

If I do need to see family for something beyond a visit, I wear a mask. And yes, everyone I know with children is okay with cancelling school for a few weeks, even the left wing nutjob tinfoil hat conspiracy theorists.

Right now I am drawing the line at defecating in public/pants/diapers and fornicating with masks. Everything else is expendable.
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Sitting around with family, or working in a small space, is a lot different than going to a store. The risk is obviously higher in a smaller space, where you spend more than 15 minutes. I for one, am not comfortable potentially infecting my elderly family members, and neither should anyone else be. Everyone has to be patient. We will be back to "normal" soon enough.
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2019 WHO guidelines for pandemic/epidemic management. Granted it is geared towards influenza.
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What is the backlog for covid tests where everyone lives? My friend became symptomatic yesterday and called and they said they are booking 5 days out.

How pathetic is that? Then they tell everyone use the covid app... for what purpose? To tell you you were around a confirmed case of covid a month ago?

Seriously at this point I think the best thing to fight covid would be if all public sector employees just took a 50 percent pay cut for a year. That’s about as logical as the actions taken by our MPPs in Ontario. :lol:

Seems like the general public is concerned about this new strain. The 70 percent more contagious strain. Public outcry to shut down all flights on the radio this morning. So I wonder do cloth masks work against this new form of covid? Should we change the guidelines again? If you are going to pump fear in what I assume is fake news (I don’t for one second think any real data shows new covid spreads faster... UK made a very ass covering statement about how this is preliminary and subject to change). This was simply a scare the shit out of everyone before Christmas so they stay home. Maybe not, maybe we are all fucked! I was wrong so many times already, covid 20 is going to destroy us!
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The new virus strain was identified in September. It has already had 3 months to spread, and likely longer since the chance they identified the first case is unlikely.
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montado wrote: Mon Dec 21, 2020 9:57 am What is the backlog for covid tests where everyone lives? My friend became symptomatic yesterday and called and they said they are booking 5 days out.

How pathetic is that? Then they tell everyone use the covid app... for what purpose? To tell you you were around a confirmed case of covid a month ago?

Seriously at this point I think the best thing to fight covid would be if all public sector employees just took a 50 percent pay cut for a year. That’s about as logical as the actions taken by our MPPs in Ontario. :lol:

Seems like the general public is concerned about this new strain. The 70 percent more contagious strain. Public outcry to shut down all flights on the radio this morning. So I wonder do cloth masks work against this new form of covid? Should we change the guidelines again? If you are going to pump fear in what I assume is fake news (I don’t for one second think any real data shows new covid spreads faster... UK made a very ass covering statement about how this is preliminary and subject to change). This was simply a scare the shit out of everyone before Christmas so they stay home. Maybe not, maybe we are all fucked! I was wrong so many times already, covid 20 is going to destroy us!
Maybe you should keep up on the fake news a little more, they did ban UK flights.

If you're waiting 5 days for a test then I'm guessing you're smack dab in the middle of it and should be isolating until results are confirmed. On the fringes it's one day for booking and 1-2 days for results.

Also, the fake news is reporting a province wide shutdown starting on the 26th for 28 days.
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