737 Missing - Jan 9 2020

[BTD]

https://avherald.com/h?article=4e18553c&opt=0

[AirFrame]

Just don't read the comments. Wow, I thought there were some less knowledgeable people here on AvCanada, but that site is horrific.

[digits_]

Boeing must be getting nervous again...

Really wondering what happened there.

[Canoehead]

Looking at Simon's report and images, leaves me wondering if weather played a role. Wonder what the CBs were topped at in the area?

[fish4life]

Boeing must be getting nervous again...

Really wondering what happened there.

Isn’t it a 737-500? A crash with a jet pretty much only used in the 3rd world and Canadian north isn’t something they are probably too concerned about

[Canoehead]

Joe public doesn't know that necessarily. It's a "Boeing 737" and the media will be sure to cite the MAX crashes in every story they put out on this crash whether related or not.

[karmutzen]

I doubt 99% of passengers care what type they fly in, just the ticket price. Max has persuasive economics = low operating cost.

[Old fella]

One hopes the media reporting will note the other airliners from Indonesia that ended up in the ocean in an uncontrolled state, not to mention the good number of airliners exiting the runways in that neck of the woods as well. Airline safety isn’t one of the stellar attributes in Indonesia that is for certain.

[Heliian]

Boeing must be getting nervous again...

Really wondering what happened there.

Isn’t it a 737-500? A crash with a jet pretty much only used in the 3rd world and Canadian north isn’t something they are probably too concerned about

Boeing would be concerned about any negative attention right now.

[Mick G]

They say it appears to have hit the water intact. Reports that it was in a 40000 fpm dive. Terrifying to say the least. At that kind of rate, I would have thought to expect structural breakup before impact?

[PostmasterGeneral]

They say it appears to have hit the water intact. Reports that it was in a 40000 fpm dive. Terrifying to say the least. At that kind of rate, I would have thought to expect structural breakup before impact?

My napkin math says that equates to about 455MPH or roughly 400 knots. Overspeeding the airframe for sure, but is that structural breakup territory?

[geodoc]

Juan Brown, as usual, has a good preliminary:









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[Mick G]

They say it appears to have hit the water intact. Reports that it was in a 40000 fpm dive. Terrifying to say the least. At that kind of rate, I would have thought to expect structural breakup before impact?

My napkin math says that equates to about 455MPH or roughly 400 knots. Overspeeding the airframe for sure, but is that structural breakup territory?

I've never taken a 737 over maximum airspeed. The fact that it was ~20% over maximum, in a dive, potentially uncontrolled or with potential aerobatic stresses on the airframe leads to my comment.

[Redneck_pilot86]

They say it appears to have hit the water intact. Reports that it was in a 40000 fpm dive. Terrifying to say the least. At that kind of rate, I would have thought to expect structural breakup before impact?

My napkin math says that equates to about 455MPH or roughly 400 knots. Overspeeding the airframe for sure, but is that structural breakup territory?

I've never taken a 737 over maximum airspeed. The fact that it was ~20% over maximum, in a dive, potentially uncontrolled or with potential aerobatic stresses on the airframe leads to my comment.

I don't think the airspeed itself would matter as much as the G loading in any attempted recovery.