Mandatory PCR Test and 3 Day Hotel Quarantine

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Rockie wrote: Fri Jan 29, 2021 7:09 pm It’s like, I don’t know...
Exactly, you don't know. You haven't presented a salient point on this subject. By the way, I speak 3 languages, am a citizen of 2 countries and a resident of 4 others. If there's a spelling or grammatical error, big deal eh.
Gino Under wrote: Fri Jan 29, 2021 8:44 pm What pisses me off are those who share your attitude. An attitude guaranteed to ensure we’re looking at an even longer stay at home quarantine. Thanks for nothing BTW.
The attitude against collapsing the economy over the common cold? Everyone's locking down harder because the government had already planned to do it. Blaming your fellow citizens is just the easy way to shift culpability. If we are busy infighting, they can carry on doing what they do. They told you last summer they would lock you down again, repeatedly. "Second wave." "Dark winter." Remember?
Gino Under wrote: Fri Jan 29, 2021 8:44 pm Direct sun is beneficial. It also contributes to skin cancer. Bummer.
So do you think we need Daddy Government to instruct us on how much sun is too much? How did we ever evolve? Come to think of it, losing touch with basic sense looks like de-evolution.
Gino Under wrote: Fri Jan 29, 2021 8:44 pm Marx has nothing to do with the present state of our airline industry
Agreed. I meant in the near future. The dynamic is currently changing towards legislation and enforcement of law by and for private companies.
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ogopogo wrote: Sat Jan 30, 2021 6:29 am I know of two people who flew their planes down to FL as they do every year. I wonder how/if these new rules will affect them.
https://www.iatatravelcentre.com/world.php

This is a good resource to stay current on the entry requirements. There are some exemptions for USA arrivals.
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Even on this board people have bought into the inane government propaganda. Truly we are fucked.
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The prices in some Hotel mini bars could make it a very expensive three days .

Gonna need a couple of forty pounders , or try the Whiskey diet where the only thing you lose are days not pounds :)
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2R wrote: Sat Jan 30, 2021 3:57 pm The prices in some Hotel mini bars could make it a very expensive three days .

Gonna need a couple of forty pounders , or try the Whiskey diet where the only thing you lose are days not pounds :)
Or 2 weeks if you test positive for the ‘Rona. Might need a couple of Texas Mickeys. :roll: People will be jumping out windows on day 8 stuck in a room with their spouses.
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Probably coming to a CDN airport near you....be warned :lol:

China rolls out anal swab coronavirus test, saying it’s more accurate than throat method

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/as ... story.html
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valleyboy wrote: Sat Jan 30, 2021 8:16 am This is not about science but the selfish stupidity of people. The small minority who have refused to act responsibly and are in denial that is the problem.

People simply can't be trusted and we see the proof everyday. Like little children sometimes a firm hand and "tough love" is required.

My only complaint about this new travel policy is about a year too late. If the politicians had grown a set (gender neutral) and not worry about votes we could likely be coming out the other side of this now.

Quote all the stats you like but travel, no matter what mode, is at the centre of all of this and plants the first seeds of all breakouts.

The illness is about science the pandemic is about people and what they do.
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ReserveTank wrote: Sat Jan 30, 2021 12:04 pm By the way, I speak 3 languages, am a citizen of 2 countries and a resident of 4 others. If there's a spelling or grammatical error, big deal eh.
I don’t know why you felt the need to share this irrelevant bit of trivia because I don’t care if you make spelling or grammatical errors. In fact if anything, and despite your other obvious problems, I think you write rather well. It’s what you write that’s bugshit crazy.
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TheStig wrote: Fri Jan 29, 2021 10:33 am ...

Nope, never mind, just empty platitudes. I can't wait until next Fridays "Patio time with Justin" (shouldn't he be in Parliament?) Where he explains how the government plans on stopping the other 98% of all cases not related to travel.
Exactly. 1500 untested, unqaurantined truckers a day coming into the country. Old folks homes still overcrowded and understaffed. Unsanitised buses, subways, and ctrains still crammed with people and nobody temperature testing them or forcing them to wear masks. Grocery stores still having unsanitised product, carts you can diy clean if you feel like it. Gas stations don't sanitise the pump handle or any of the buttons on the machine that I have no choice but to touch.
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valleyboy wrote: Sat Jan 30, 2021 8:16 am This is not about science but the selfish stupidity of people. The small minority who have refused to act responsibly and are in denial that is the problem.

People simply can't be trusted and we see the proof everyday. Like little children sometimes a firm hand and "tough love" is required.

My only complaint about this new travel policy is about a year too late. If the politicians had grown a set (gender neutral) and not worry about votes we could likely be coming out the other side of this now.

Quote all the stats you like but travel, no matter what mode, is at the centre of all of this and plants the first seeds of all breakouts.

The illness is about science the pandemic is about people and what they do.
2 percent of cases are travel related, and healthcare workers account for 20 percent of covid cases. I disagree with calling people selfish. But some use that method to rationalize things. If it makes you feel better, blame your neighbour I guess...

If I had to come up with ways to solve covid spread my bet would be on finding a better way to manage the healthcare situation. My question would be what has the province done to better prepare the healthcare system a year into this. It seems like they have just been waiting for covid to go away in Ontario... I don't hear to much about better preparing the health system other than updating on how they are trying to source PPE.
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Question: Does everybody have to do a 3 day hotel lockdown? I mean there are lots of other flights entering Canada every day or does it just apply to returning Canadians from vacation destinations?
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Cessna 180 wrote: Sat Jan 30, 2021 9:53 am
ogopogo wrote: Sat Jan 30, 2021 6:29 am I know of two people who flew their planes down to FL as they do every year. I wonder how/if these new rules will affect them.
it probably doesn't since crew are exempt from quarantine. It's questionable if they will be required to land at YYZ/YVR/YYC/YUL though (since no passengers are on board presumably).
I guess I should have mentioned that they (the pilots) have spouses. They would also be considered “crew”?? Many are not even pilots.
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2 percent of cases are travel related
Depending on how you want to analyse. It could be argued that all the cases except for ground zero are travel related.
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ogopogo wrote: Sun Jan 31, 2021 8:51 pm
Cessna 180 wrote: Sat Jan 30, 2021 9:53 am
ogopogo wrote: Sat Jan 30, 2021 6:29 am I know of two people who flew their planes down to FL as they do every year. I wonder how/if these new rules will affect them.
it probably doesn't since crew are exempt from quarantine. It's questionable if they will be required to land at YYZ/YVR/YYC/YUL though (since no passengers are on board presumably).
I guess I should have mentioned that they (the pilots) have spouses. They would also be considered “crew”?? Many are not even pilots.
Make sure she has a drone
Canadian Aviation Regulations 101.01 (1) wrote:crew member means a person who is assigned to duty in an aircraft during flight time, or assigned to duty related to the operation of a remotely piloted aircraft system during flight time; 
But in reality, no. Unless you hire your wife to be a flight attendant or a loadmaster for your Cessna. I can't speak to the coming regime, but they rarely ever questioned who was "crew" when calling CANPASS previously. I wouldn't advocate lying to the CBSA.
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Covid isn’t a common cold. Give your head a shake.
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Gino Under wrote: Tue Feb 02, 2021 2:44 pm ReserveTank

Covid isn’t a common cold. Give your head a shake.
https://www.newsweek.com/dr-fauci-backe ... ch-1500741

It was man made in a Laboratory by evil wicked homicidal maniacs intent on murdering humanity . The same Doctor was involved with the previous mystery virus HIV . Somebody better take his lab privileges away before he starts WW3 .
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Gino Under wrote: Tue Feb 02, 2021 2:44 pm ReserveTank

Covid isn’t a common cold. Give your head a shake.
Coronaviruses are common colds and have been known about for at least 90 years. This is basic 11th grade biology (well, maybe not in inner city schools), not to mention . Just like many colds and influenza, a respiratory infection can develop. The at-risk demographic is similar to influenza (and many other "colds" and respiratory diseases)---65+ and/or affected by multiple comorbidities. <<<That's the CDC, not me.
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ReserveTank wrote: Wed Feb 03, 2021 10:09 am
Gino Under wrote: Tue Feb 02, 2021 2:44 pm ReserveTank

Covid isn’t a common cold. Give your head a shake.
Coronaviruses are common colds and have been known about for at least 90 years. This is basic 11th grade biology (well, maybe not in inner city schools), not to mention . Just like many colds and influenza, a respiratory infection can develop. The at-risk demographic is similar to influenza (and many other "colds" and respiratory diseases)---65+ and/or affected by multiple comorbidities. <<<That's the CDC, not me.
The common cold is caused by a different type of coronavirus to covid-19 (different subgenus). It's like comparing a Boeing 737 to a P26 Peashooter.
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CpnCrunch wrote: Wed Feb 03, 2021 10:22 am
ReserveTank wrote: Wed Feb 03, 2021 10:09 am
Gino Under wrote: Tue Feb 02, 2021 2:44 pm ReserveTank

Covid isn’t a common cold. Give your head a shake.
Coronaviruses are common colds and have been known about for at least 90 years. This is basic 11th grade biology (well, maybe not in inner city schools), not to mention . Just like many colds and influenza, a respiratory infection can develop. The at-risk demographic is similar to influenza (and many other "colds" and respiratory diseases)---65+ and/or affected by multiple comorbidities. <<<That's the CDC, not me.
The common cold is caused by a different type of coronavirus to covid-19 (different subgenus). It's like comparing a Boeing 737 to a P26 Peashooter.
There are different strains, I absolutely agree. The comparison is a bit exaggerated because the negatively affected demographic is the same-Old people and people who abused their bodies with poor diet, lack of physical activity, etc. If you are enough immunocompromised, a simple diarrhea can kill you. This is the part that is not being impressed upon the public enough, IMO.
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ReserveTank wrote: Wed Feb 03, 2021 10:44 am
CpnCrunch wrote: Wed Feb 03, 2021 10:22 am
ReserveTank wrote: Wed Feb 03, 2021 10:09 am

Coronaviruses are common colds and have been known about for at least 90 years. This is basic 11th grade biology (well, maybe not in inner city schools), not to mention . Just like many colds and influenza, a respiratory infection can develop. The at-risk demographic is similar to influenza (and many other "colds" and respiratory diseases)---65+ and/or affected by multiple comorbidities. <<<That's the CDC, not me.
The common cold is caused by a different type of coronavirus to covid-19 (different subgenus). It's like comparing a Boeing 737 to a P26 Peashooter.
There are different strains, I absolutely agree. The comparison is a bit exaggerated because the negatively affected demographic is the same-Old people and people who abused their bodies with poor diet, lack of physical activity, etc. If you are enough immunocompromised, a simple diarrhea can kill you. This is the part that is not being impressed upon the public enough, IMO.
Tell us again why you aren't running Canada's Covid 19 war room? You seem to have all the answers.
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co-joe wrote: Sun Jan 31, 2021 8:16 am <Snip> Gas stations don't sanitise the pump handle or any of the buttons on the machine that I have no choice but to touch.
Perhaps it's because I drive a diesel, but I have a pair of work gloves in the back of my car - always use them to fuel up...
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Rockie wrote: Wed Feb 03, 2021 11:09 am
ReserveTank wrote: Wed Feb 03, 2021 10:44 am
CpnCrunch wrote: Wed Feb 03, 2021 10:22 am

The common cold is caused by a different type of coronavirus to covid-19 (different subgenus). It's like comparing a Boeing 737 to a P26 Peashooter.
There are different strains, I absolutely agree. The comparison is a bit exaggerated because the negatively affected demographic is the same-Old people and people who abused their bodies with poor diet, lack of physical activity, etc. If you are enough immunocompromised, a simple diarrhea can kill you. This is the part that is not being impressed upon the public enough, IMO.
Tell us again why you aren't running Canada's Covid 19 war room? You seem to have all the answers.
This info is widely available and some is basic knowledge. I doubt that their "war room" is there to help us anyhow. They never said one word about how to improve your health in order to better your immune system against COVID-19. Some of the major COVID comorbidities are diabetes, pulmonary problems, and cardiovascular issues brought on by a high sugar, sedentary lifestyle. Cut the comorbidities and cut the risk. Or just keep stuffing faces with HFCS and potato chips and wish for the next pharmaceutical miracle.
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ReserveTank wrote: Wed Feb 03, 2021 10:20 pm I doubt that their "war room" is there to help us anyhow. They never said one word about how to improve your health in order to better your immune system against COVID-19. Some of the major COVID comorbidities are diabetes, pulmonary problems, and cardiovascular issues brought on by a high sugar, sedentary lifestyle. Cut the comorbidities and cut the risk. Or just keep stuffing faces with HFCS and potato chips and wish for the next pharmaceutical miracle.
I guess that’s why you guys aren’t running the war room. You have no sense of what the immediate problem is.
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ReserveTank wrote: Wed Feb 03, 2021 10:20 pm
Rockie wrote: Wed Feb 03, 2021 11:09 am
ReserveTank wrote: Wed Feb 03, 2021 10:44 am

There are different strains, I absolutely agree. The comparison is a bit exaggerated because the negatively affected demographic is the same-Old people and people who abused their bodies with poor diet, lack of physical activity, etc. If you are enough immunocompromised, a simple diarrhea can kill you. This is the part that is not being impressed upon the public enough, IMO.
Tell us again why you aren't running Canada's Covid 19 war room? You seem to have all the answers.
This info is widely available and some is basic knowledge. I doubt that their "war room" is there to help us anyhow. They never said one word about how to improve your health in order to better your immune system against COVID-19. Some of the major COVID comorbidities are diabetes, pulmonary problems, and cardiovascular issues brought on by a high sugar, sedentary lifestyle. Cut the comorbidities and cut the risk. Or just keep stuffing faces with HFCS and potato chips and wish for the next pharmaceutical miracle.
Co-morbidity is a well talked about issue, in fact you’d have to have been asleep for the last year to have missed it.
Question, what is more likely to happen first, the obesity pandemic is over or mass vaccination?
I can’t believe this needs to be discussed, plenty of health issues have been talked about to improve the outcome but in your mind people should just snap their fingers and be healthy, they must’ve found a cure for diabetes by now!
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ReserveTank wrote: Wed Feb 03, 2021 10:09 am Coronaviruses are common colds and have been known about for at least 90 years. This is basic 11th grade biology (well, maybe not in inner city schools), not to mention . Just like many colds and influenza, a respiratory infection can develop. The at-risk demographic is similar to influenza (and many other "colds" and respiratory diseases)---65+ and/or affected by multiple comorbidities. <<<That's the CDC, not me.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/ ... -1.5899804

I think the Premier of Alberta may be talking to you, ReserveTank.
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