Private Jets & COVID rules

[katien]

I'm a journalist looking to speak with people in the private jet industry about how COVID has impacted business and how quarantine rules and testing are handled when you're flying back into Canada. Message if you'd like to chat.

[rigpiggy]

Hey Guys: First rule of "Flight Club" Don't talk about "Flight Club" Remember you are paid for your discretion!!! When was the last time a news story came out the way you wanted it portrayed.

[RedAndWhiteBaron]

If you think aviation is a "Fight Club", you have other problems.

I mean, I'm just saying - but pilots aren't paid for their discretion. Journalists are.

[rookiepilot]

I'm a journalist looking to speak with people in the private jet industry about how COVID has impacted business and how quarantine rules and testing are handled when you're flying back into Canada. Message if you'd like to chat.

I've got a question for you. Actually three.

1. How would anyone here be assured they would be quoted accurately in context?

2. Would you give full editorial control to the ones being quoted?

3. As a journalist, what is your position on news articles that -- as commonly occurs -- only selectively quote information gathered during an interview, and sometimes obscuring the context or meaning?

[7ECA]

If you think aviation is a "Fight Club", you have other problems.

I mean, I'm just saying - but pilots aren't paid for their discretion. Journalists are.

Corporate is a whole other ball game. If you thought aviation in general was a bit... odd; you've clearly never been around corporate crews. I'm not saying they aren't friendly, per say, but they're anything but open and chatty.

[RedAndWhiteBaron]

If you think aviation is a "Fight Club", you have other problems.

I mean, I'm just saying - but pilots aren't paid for their discretion. Journalists are.

Corporate is a whole other ball game. If you thought aviation in general was a bit... odd; you've clearly never been around corporate crews. I'm not saying they aren't friendly, per say, but they're anything but open and chatty.

Well I'm still more or less a stranger to aviation, but I'm sure as shit no stranger to the corporate world. I get you.

[Liftdump]

Rigpiggy you are 100% correct

[digits_]

I'd be curious to know how many trips on corporate jets are really essential.

Not to worry though, I am sure the paperwork says they all are.

[Heliian]

All the rules are laid out already and anyone going across the border must follow them appropriately for the job.

There's no secrets being spilled here, private jets are crossing just like everyone else. Some are following the rules, some are outright breaking the rules because they think they're above the law in their private aircraft and some are taking liberties with their restrictions.

The same morons that break the rules in a car would break the rules in their aircraft and vice versa.

Canada has a relatively small industry, almost not even worth writing about.

[AirFrame]

I'm a journalist looking to speak with people in the private jet industry about how COVID has impacted business and how quarantine rules and testing are handled when you're flying back into Canada. Message if you'd like to chat.

Go take a look at the COVID sub-forum here and read through some of the posts there if you want a much more eye-opening expose of what some pilots think about the COVID restrictions.

[CpnCrunch]

Corporate is a whole other ball game. If you thought aviation in general was a bit... odd; you've clearly never been around corporate crews. I'm not saying they aren't friendly, per say, but they're anything but open and chatty.

Definitely not true. But maybe it depends on the crew, or who they are chatting to.

[GRK2]

I'm a journalist looking to speak with people in the private jet industry about how COVID has impacted business and how quarantine rules and testing are handled when you're flying back into Canada. Message if you'd like to chat.

Go take a look at the COVID sub-forum here and read through some of the posts there if you want a much more eye-opening expose of what pilots think about the COVID restrictions.

Now wait just a GD minute here Airframe. Are you saying that that sub-forum represents ALL pilots? Because I'm quite sure it does not. The almost daily bluster and protest posted on that sight is so far over the top and so very anti government it borders on anarchy in some cases.

SO Katien, by all means, read it, but it certainly does not represent general consensus. What you will find (if you do your research as a journalist) is that asking for opinions and answers on an aviation internet site like this one will get you a very loud response from a few. Not a great cross section.

[montado]

Why not report on what we have to look forward to.

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[rookiepilot]

Why not report on what we have to look forward to.

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--- Cause uncovering dirt, real or imaginary, ideally that inspires emotional outrage in the readership, is far better for ratings, and a reporter's career.

[kgb531]

I'm a journalist looking to speak with people in the private jet industry about how COVID has impacted business and how quarantine rules and testing are handled when you're flying back into Canada. Message if you'd like to chat.

Go take a look at the COVID sub-forum here and read through some of the posts there if you want a much more eye-opening expose of what pilots think about the COVID restrictions.

Now wait just a GD minute here Airframe. Are you saying that that sub-forum represents ALL pilots? Because I'm quite sure it does not. The almost daily bluster and protest posted on that sight is so far over the top and so very anti government it borders on anarchy in some cases.

SO Katien, by all means, read it, but it certainly does not represent general consensus. What you will find (if you do your research as a journalist) is that asking for opinions and answers on an aviation internet site like this one will get you a very loud response from a few. Not a great cross section.

The sub-forum would be no different than the real world except the real world has a higher level of education. No Canadian city has seen >0.3% of the population turn out for a covid-specific "freedom" rally. They just make a lot of noise.

[rooster]

If you think aviation is a "Fight Club", you have other problems.

I mean, I'm just saying - but pilots aren't paid for their discretion. Journalists are.

He said Flight club. Not fight club. His post is pretty friggin spot on to be honest and his concerns are valid. It's not common for journalists to paint aviation using a bad brush.

[AirFrame]

Now wait just a GD minute here Airframe. Are you saying that that sub-forum represents ALL pilots? Because I'm quite sure it does not. The almost daily bluster and protest posted on that sight is so far over the top and so very anti government it borders on anarchy in some cases.

No, sorry, definitely not painting all of us with that brush. I share your opinion. But none of that matters to the media, I was just suggesting that the COVID sub-forum would be a more sensational story than a few corporate jets crossing the border.

[Dread Pilot Roberts]

I mean, I'm just saying - but pilots aren't paid for their discretion. Journalists are.

Corporate/Private Aviation Pilots sure are paid for their discretion, in fact it’s likely in your contract.

Rigpig is correct, first rule is we don’t talk about it.

And yes we follow the rules or we would be on the street faster than Justin Trudeau spends your tax dollars.

[Dh8Classic]

Why not report on what we have to look forward to.

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--- Cause uncovering dirt, real or imaginary, ideally that inspires emotional outrage in the readership, is far better for ratings, and a reporter's career.

That is why I call them the Fake, Unprofessional, Enemy of the People News.

First we hear over and over again about how terrible Covid is making us all want vaccines and then we read a few minutes later from the same news about vaccines killing people making us not want vaccines.

Go away and find your sensationalism somewhere else.

[tsgarp]

I'm a journalist looking to speak with people in the private jet industry about how COVID has impacted business and how quarantine rules and testing are handled when you're flying back into Canada. Message if you'd like to chat.

Hi Katien,

I think before any of us feel comfortable talking to you, we'd like to know who you write for and see some samples of your work. Journalism needs to be transparent and you need to build some trust.

[tsgarp]

I mean, I'm just saying - but pilots aren't paid for their discretion. Journalists are.

Corporate/Private Aviation Pilots sure are paid for their discretion, in fact it’s likely in your contract.

Rigpig is correct, first rule is we don’t talk about it.

And yes we follow the rules or we would be on the street faster than Justin Trudeau spends your tax dollars.

Hey, how did you get that user name past the auto-censor?

[The Real Scudrunner]

don't you know Auto sometimes screws up.

[Dh8Classic]

Katien. Hmmmm.

Katie n perhaps. Hmmmmm

Katie N. perhaps. Perhaps I could google Katie N. journalist. Hmmmm. Comes up with Katie Nicholson and says;
“Katie Nicholson is a senior reporter with CBC News based in Toronto.”

Is this our mysterious Katien. Maybe.

Let’s see what this particular person is doing on behalf of her employers, also known as taxpayers.

Of course, it could be a different journalist.

But one entity was not impressed with what they said was a hit job by Katie Nicholson:



https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.theepoc ... 2.html/amp

Even if a different person, I would stay far away from Katien. This person has a deadline for their story. Just wait a while.

[MrWings]

If Katien trashed the racist right wing Epoch Times then she is a hero.

I'll talk with her.

[RRJetPilot]

Hey CBC reporter, you literally live off of handouts and government bailouts to survive. Your wage is paid by OUR MONEY. Your viewership is decreasing and so is your ad revenue. This year you need another 800 Million ON TOP of what you normally get. Now I dont want to get personal but as an organization that wouldn't exist without MY TAX DOLLARS, how about you support other struggling industries instead of attacking them at EVERY opportunity.
Covid has been the biggest devastation in the aviation industry in the history of Canada, 100x worst than 911. How about you use your unlimited funds to support fellow Canadians instead of look for more stories to hurt our industry. These are mothers, brothers, neighbors, and friends, that are all unemployed losing their HIGHLY specialized skills waiting for the government to make a plan to restart travel.

Respectfully, I wouldn't sleep at night If was you. Hope you see the light and start supporting Canadians in the darkest hour. Karma is real.