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Air Canada Second Trip to C.C.A.A.?
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US border closed for another month, even to those fully vaccinated.
UK slowing down vaccinations at 55%. Isreal has nearly stopped vaccinating at 60% of the population receiving at least one dose. The U.S. is stalling out its vaccine uptake at 48% receiving their first dose. In all these countries, the death rate, and infection rates are plummeting.
Terry Tam has stated that she needs to see 75% of Canadians receiving their first shot, and at least 20% having their second before seriously considering lifting Federal Covid policies.
While possible, 75% is not logically attainable. This will not end, and borders will not open until until the Federal Government shifts the opening metric to "hospitalizations and death rates". Period.
We need "reasonable" Federal guidance that Provinces can use as a baseline, otherwise it will be a complete clusterfock.
This administration thrives on extinguishing hope.
UK slowing down vaccinations at 55%. Isreal has nearly stopped vaccinating at 60% of the population receiving at least one dose. The U.S. is stalling out its vaccine uptake at 48% receiving their first dose. In all these countries, the death rate, and infection rates are plummeting.
Terry Tam has stated that she needs to see 75% of Canadians receiving their first shot, and at least 20% having their second before seriously considering lifting Federal Covid policies.
While possible, 75% is not logically attainable. This will not end, and borders will not open until until the Federal Government shifts the opening metric to "hospitalizations and death rates". Period.
We need "reasonable" Federal guidance that Provinces can use as a baseline, otherwise it will be a complete clusterfock.
This administration thrives on extinguishing hope.
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After 5 months of vaccinations, only 3% of Canadians have been fully vaccinated with two shots! 

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Great success! Our p.m. is doing one hell of a job.
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Cherry picking your number....you forgot to mention more than 50% have received the 1st shot.... more than lots of countries ....

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I mean you cant be this ignorant as to why we have more with the first shot right? Its because we aren't giving second shots. I mean a toddle can see that. And it looks like the vaccine is not very effective after just one shot. anywhere from 13-30% against the variants. Shoots up to 90% after the second shot. So tell me again how delaying the shot is good?

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Canada is months behind the vax curve. Our illustrious leader made a deal with China for vaccines, then got promptly screwed. Go figure.
Yeah 50% have 1st shot , how many have second shot? 3%?! great job!
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https://www.theguardian.com/science/202 ... s-immunity
https://www.birmingham.ac.uk/news/lates ... ponse.aspx
I though you've done your research and knew that 12 weeks between jabs was better for you..... I'm just a pilot
https://www.birmingham.ac.uk/news/lates ... ponse.aspx
I though you've done your research and knew that 12 weeks between jabs was better for you..... I'm just a pilot
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Both those links are from trash rags. Please link a reputable peer reviewed study. I don’t think you will want to as it shows one dose is very INEFFECTIVE against any of the variants.pilotbzh wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 11:46 am https://www.theguardian.com/science/202 ... s-immunity
https://www.birmingham.ac.uk/news/lates ... ponse.aspx
I though you've done your research and knew that 12 weeks between jabs was better for you..... I'm just a pilot
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https://www.mcgill.ca/oss/article/covid ... id-vaccine
how about that one...
We've made a choice in Canada.... based on Science more people with one dose vs less people with full protection...the goal is to control the infection and reduce impact on the health system, 50% with some protection is better than 25% fully protected for the overall control of outbreak... Delay in doses are also rooted in sciences, the 28 days between doses got approved because of time constraint (to get the vaccines out faster couldn't wait for a full 6 months study), new data as expected showing a better immune response after 4-6 month (like most other vaccines)
The point is get your 1st shot as soon as you can, even if you still get sick it should be as bad as if you were unvaccinated, 2nd shot will come soon and probably a 3rd one next winter....
how about that one...
We've made a choice in Canada.... based on Science more people with one dose vs less people with full protection...the goal is to control the infection and reduce impact on the health system, 50% with some protection is better than 25% fully protected for the overall control of outbreak... Delay in doses are also rooted in sciences, the 28 days between doses got approved because of time constraint (to get the vaccines out faster couldn't wait for a full 6 months study), new data as expected showing a better immune response after 4-6 month (like most other vaccines)
The point is get your 1st shot as soon as you can, even if you still get sick it should be as bad as if you were unvaccinated, 2nd shot will come soon and probably a 3rd one next winter....
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That article is clear. Its final word is:
While one dose is good, two are better.
The other article you post references a non-peer reviewed look at 170 80-100 year olds, people with varying poor immune systems to begin with. And while the article title, which is as deep as most people will go, talks about increased antibodies, the paper itself talks about other responses associated with immunity being not as strong. Clearly they are selling a narrative.
Also even if we are to believe that delaying the second dose does provide some increase in immunity, there is a risk associated with that extended time in between doses where you have less immunity than if you were to have the second dose now. The pandemic is now, not 3 months from now.
While one dose is good, two are better.
The other article you post references a non-peer reviewed look at 170 80-100 year olds, people with varying poor immune systems to begin with. And while the article title, which is as deep as most people will go, talks about increased antibodies, the paper itself talks about other responses associated with immunity being not as strong. Clearly they are selling a narrative.
Also even if we are to believe that delaying the second dose does provide some increase in immunity, there is a risk associated with that extended time in between doses where you have less immunity than if you were to have the second dose now. The pandemic is now, not 3 months from now.
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https://www.forbes.com/sites/brucelee/2 ... febf771e75
If you still need convincing to get the Vaccine...
If you still need convincing to get the Vaccine...

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Are you afraid of it? I guess being an adult with a lifetime of experiences does not mean that you still can't be as dull as door knob.pilotbzh wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 4:05 am https://www.forbes.com/sites/brucelee/2 ... febf771e75
If you still need convincing to get the Vaccine...![]()
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There's an update to that research. They found that 87% of those men under observation also has wives that gained, on average 64lbs, while sitting on the couch watching Netflix eating potato chips. There is now a new study commissioned about Covid related erectile disfunction with this in mind.pilotbzh wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 4:05 am https://www.forbes.com/sites/brucelee/2 ... febf771e75
If you still need convincing to get the Vaccine...![]()
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Probably thanks to clinics in Florida lol
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With all that incompetence, the libs will still win a majority next election.
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Florida has 10,000 more COVID-19 deaths than all of Canada.sanjet wrote: ↑Wed May 26, 2021 2:55 pmWith all that incompetence, the libs will still win a majority next election.
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My guess is the fully vaccinated number is much higher than 3% in Canada. No one who got vaccinated in the United States or elsewhere is counted unless they contacted their local public health agency - and good luck having them call you back.
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Your current libs decided to sign a vaccine deal with sinovac, 5 months later the CCP decides to block those shipments to canada and after all the first world countries sign with Pfizer and Moderna.... Anyone with real life experience could have predicted this. A bit of a blessing considering those Chinese vaccines are below 50% in efficacy looking at Seychelles vaccination.
So we lost 5 months timeline. That’s 5 months of illness and death that could have been prevented all because of ineptitude, it’s also 5 months of extra economic devastation. Keep excusing corruption and incompetence.
Just saw a hockey game on tv yesterday in New York with fans in the seats.
PS, Florida has a population of 22 million since you are comparing death rates.
Meanwhile I’m getting checked for my freedoms documents because I’m driving home after curfew from work.
“wE’Re aLl iN THiS ToGEtHEr”
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So strange to watch people duke this out as it makes us feel so polarized. Most of us here probably agree on 95 percent of thing but we feel so different because people focus on the 5 percent.
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Angry people of certain beliefs are more likely to express their opinions on this forum.
Those same people also appear to be of the "I don't want to be told what to do" group.
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Your "guess of much higher" is wishful thinking, unfortunately!Cessna 180 wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 1:41 am My guess is the fully vaccinated number is much higher than 3% in Canada. No one who got vaccinated in the United States or elsewhere is counted unless they contacted their local public health agency - and good luck having them call you back.
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Another well said observation! Some posters on here really have their heads up their asses with rose coloured glasses on!sanjet wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 4:29 amYour current libs decided to sign a vaccine deal with sinovac, 5 months later the CCP decides to block those shipments to canada and after all the first world countries sign with Pfizer and Moderna.... Anyone with real life experience could have predicted this. A bit of a blessing considering those Chinese vaccines are below 50% in efficacy looking at Seychelles vaccination.
So we lost 5 months timeline. That’s 5 months of illness and death that could have been prevented all because of ineptitude, it’s also 5 months of extra economic devastation. Keep excusing corruption and incompetence.
Just saw a hockey game on tv yesterday in New York with fans in the seats.
PS, Florida has a population of 22 million since you are comparing death rates.
Meanwhile I’m getting checked for my freedoms documents because I’m driving home after curfew from work.
“wE’Re aLl iN THiS ToGEtHEr”

Keep the dirty side down.
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I believe you should wear your mask and sanitize or wash your filthy hands several times a day, and yah..I'm pissed off at Trudeau if you haven't figured that out Sherlock!notwhoyouthinkIam wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 5:15 amAngry people of certain beliefs are more likely to express their opinions on this forum.
Those same people also appear to be of the "I don't want to be told what to do" group.
Keep the dirty side down.