3 BA pilots died following their 2nd jab this last week

[TheStig]

The rest aren't called names and locked out of things for choosing not to.

Wouldn't you agree that COVID19 has had a much more profound impact on society than the seasonal flu? They're apples and oranges.

Over 98% of patients hospitalized in May with COVID19 weren't fully vaccinated, the beds they occupy are a valuable resource and are preventing important surgeries from taking place. Someone who doesn't want to get vaccinated because they feel they're at low risk from severe illness? Alright fine, that is defendable but so is the argument that they're being selfish. They aren't doing their part to develop a heard immunity that is going to protect vulnerable people who can't derive the same benefits from the vaccines.

It's like putting away a grocery cart after you've unloaded it into your trunk, there maybe no rule forcing you to put it away, no one is forcing you to do your part, but its the right thing to do. If the wind blows it into someone else's car after you've driven away its your fault even if you never see it happen or have to pay for the repairs.

[JerryRig]

Some of the replies here curiously miss the point. Labeling those who resist this experimental drug does not make them “anti-vaxers”. That is unnecessary and in accurate. Most that are hesitant to take the covid shot, are fine with other genuine vaccines (though the flu vaccines are still debatable).

The fact that keeps getting missed by some is the covid jab IS NOT A VACCINE by definition. It is gene therapy that HAS NEVER BEEN SUCCESSFULLY applied to animals and humans. WE ARE ALL THE EXPERIMENT, and we are being deceived by government, healthcare, and our employers into taking it without being determined safe and effective, as so far the evidence is indicating the opposite.

Could those that are justifying this drug be the same that take unnecessary flight risks?

[JerryRig]

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[Babar350]

https://www.fda.gov/news-events/press-a ... ne-25-2021

Today, the FDA is announcing revisions to the patient and provider fact sheets for the Moderna and Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 vaccines regarding the suggested increased risks of myocarditis (inflammation of the heart muscle) and pericarditis (inflammation of the tissue surrounding the heart) following vaccination. For each vaccine, the Fact Sheet for Healthcare Providers Administering Vaccine (Vaccination Providers) has been revised to include a warning about myocarditis and pericarditis and the Fact Sheet for Recipients and Caregivers has been revised to include information about myocarditis and pericarditis. This update follows an extensive review of information and the discussion by CDC’s Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices meeting on Wednesday. The data presented at this meeting reinforced the FDA’s decision to revise the fact sheets and further informed the specific revisions. The warning in the Fact Sheets for Healthcare Providers Administering Vaccines notes that reports of adverse events suggest increased risks of myocarditis and pericarditis, particularly following the second dose and with onset of symptoms within a few days after vaccination. Additionally, the Fact Sheets for Recipients and Caregivers for these vaccines note that vaccine recipients should seek medical attention right away if they have chest pain, shortness of breath, or feelings of having a fast-beating, fluttering, or pounding heart after vaccination. The FDA and CDC are monitoring the reports, collecting more information, and will follow-up to assess longer-term outcomes over several months.

[Inverted2]

https://www.israelnationalnews.com/News ... spx/308653

“It is clear that officials were already aware that the vaccine does not provide sufficient protection, as quarantine regulations for those returning from abroad have recently been changed, requiring even those fully vaccinated to self-isolate upon return from certain countries.

In addition, military intelligence has been warning of such a scenario at least since January, when a report was published that suggested a mass vaccination campaign would lead to vaccine-resistant strains of Covid-19 emerging.”

[RedAndWhiteBaron]

Almost 3 billion doses administered globally, and case counts falling everywhere.

It's almost as if some folks don't understand the preponderance of evidence...

['97 Tercel]

Falling everywhere? Or mostly in the northern hemisphere where it's generally summer...and that's because Covid is seasonal. The numbers last summer were low too, with no vaccinations.

[altiplano]

Almost 3 billion doses administered globally, and case counts falling everywhere.

It's almost as if some folks don't understand the preponderance of evidence...

Case and death counts falling everywhere... somehow seems familiar... except the vaccine part.

[JerryRig]

Almost 3 billion doses administered globally, and case counts falling everywhere.

You DID research the fraudulent PCR test, didn’t you? The one that can dialup false positives or dial them down at will?

[Hot Wings]

Almost 3 billion doses administered globally, and case counts falling everywhere.

You DID research the fraudulent PCR test, didn’t you? The one that can dialup false positives or dial them down at will?

Perhaps it’s your brain that is jerry-rigged.

[ReserveTank]

Hundreds of millions of mRNA vaccines administered worldwide for over 15 months. Are we to believe....suddenly......that they are directly responsible for the death of three BA pilots. What complete, utter hogwash.

The internet is full of absolute garbage, and plenty of garbage consumers. What I can't believe is that my co-workers on the forum have written over 20 posts on this exact topic. I can't believe I actually fly with these dolts. Apparently statistics and science are beyond them.

Coincidentally they are the same ones that spend a lot of time on the LottoMax thread flinging $50's and $20 into an abyss. Clearly a statistic and logic challenged bunch.

VAERS. Check VAERS.
Answer this: Is myocarditis a side effect of the jab? Is myocarditis an acceptable side effect to you? What about blood clots?

Anyone can post to VAERS, including anyone with an agenda to discredit the vaccine.

There are well over 1 million entries to that database. Are you saying that there is a conspiracy to discredit the (injection) through VAERS?

[ReserveTank]

Almost 3 billion doses administered globally, and case counts falling everywhere.

It's almost as if some folks don't understand the preponderance of evidence...

Most folks do not understand the power of statistics manipulation as a tool for rhetoric. (That technique goes back at least 2500 years by the way.)
The evidence is whatever they make it to be. If the official says 2, 3, or 4 billion, you will believe it just the same.

[RedAndWhiteBaron]

Almost 3 billion doses administered globally, and case counts falling everywhere.

It's almost as if some folks don't understand the preponderance of evidence...

Most folks do not understand the power of statistics manipulation as a tool for rhetoric. (That technique goes back at least 2500 years by the way.)
The evidence is whatever they make it to be. If the official says 2, 3, or 4 billion, you will believe it just the same.

Hah! I do!

I don't eat pickles for one month before flying, because 73% of all air crash fatalities ate pickles in the month previous!

Also, I drive drunk! Only 40% of automobile accidents involve drinking, and I'd rather be that 40% than the other 60%!

And never forget, 73% of all statistics are made up on the spot

[Hot Wings]

I don’t want a pickle, just want to ride on my motorsickle.

[TG]

TG, can you please let us know where to find reliable information?
Can you please answer those questions:
- What's in it?
- Who developed it?
- What is their track record?
- Do they have legal liability?
- How long was it tested for?
- Who is telling me to get it?
- What is their track record?
- How effective is it?
- Is it necessary for someone with my health condition?
- How many side effect reported?
- How many death reported?

No.

Simply because I do not have the expertise to assess a vaccin and so is 99.99999999% of the people on this forum (I should say 100%)
That's why I'm leaving it to the true medical experts. Usually those who don't have time to post stuff on You Tube, Facebook, forums, Instagram, etc...

[FL_CH]

Imagine you greet your passengers and one of them starts:

Can you please answer those questions about this plane I’m boarding:
- What materials are in it?
- Who developed it?
- What is their track record?
- Do they have legal liability?
- How long was it tested for?
- Who is telling me to fly on this specific plane?
- What is their track record?
- How safe is it?
- Is it necessary to fly for someone with my health condition?
- How many mechanical issues reported?
- How many people died flying on this aircraft type?

[altiplano]

Imagine you greet your passengers and one of them starts:

Can you please answer those questions about this plane I’m boarding:
- What materials are in it?
- Who developed it?
- What is their track record?
- Do they have legal liability?
- How long was it tested for?
- Who is telling me to fly on this specific plane?
- What is their track record?
- How safe is it?
- Is it necessary to fly for someone with my health condition?
- How many mechanical issues reported?
- How many people died flying on this aircraft type?

I've had it a bunch of times... too many to count really...
Not the precise same list, but many of them and more.
20 questions in the cockpit from nervous flyers and the sort.

[altiplano]

Almost 3 billion doses administered globally, and case counts falling everywhere.

It's almost as if some folks don't understand the preponderance of evidence...

Most folks do not understand the power of statistics manipulation as a tool for rhetoric. (That technique goes back at least 2500 years by the way.)
The evidence is whatever they make it to be. If the official says 2, 3, or 4 billion, you will believe it just the same.

Hah! I do!

I don't eat pickles for one month before flying, because 73% of all air crash fatalities ate pickles in the month previous!

Also, I drive drunk! Only 40% of automobile accidents involve drinking, and I'd rather be that 40% than the other 60%!

And never forget, 73% of all statistics are made up on the spot

So you do understand, yet you still post: It's almost as if some folks don't understand the preponderance of evidence...

[altiplano]

VAERS. Check VAERS.
Answer this: Is myocarditis a side effect of the jab? Is myocarditis an acceptable side effect to you? What about blood clots?

Anyone can post to VAERS, including anyone with an agenda to discredit the vaccine.

There are well over 1 million entries to that database. Are you saying that there is a conspiracy to discredit the (injection) through VAERS?

Are the CDC and FDA in on the conspiracy?
Myocarditis and pericarditis have been added to known side effects and likely risks associated with covid19 vaccination.

On June 25, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) announced that their Facts Sheets for the Moderna and Pfizer/BioNTech Covid-19 vaccines now include info about “myocarditis” and “pericarditis.” Adding such words to the sheets was not really a surprise. After all, two days prior, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices (ACIP) had found a “likely association” between the vaccines and rare occurrences of myocarditis and pericarditis among younger people, according to Jemima McEvoy writing for Forbes. So now the FDA Fact Sheets say that the two mRNA vaccines may bring “increased risks of myocarditis and pericarditis, particularly following the second dose.”

https://www.forbes.com/sites/brucelee/2 ... -vaccines/

[JerryRig]

Imagine you greet your passengers and one of them starts:

Can you please answer those questions about this plane I’m boarding:
- What materials are in it?
- Who developed it?
- What is their track record?
- Do they have legal liability?
- How long was it tested for?
- Who is telling me to fly on this specific plane?
- What is their track record?
- How safe is it?
- Is it necessary to fly for someone with my health condition?
- How many mechanical issues reported?
- How many people died flying on this aircraft type?

Asking what is going to be injected into your body that cannot be undone is not unreasonable. Apples oranges.

[JerryRig]

THIS should send chills down the spines of the naysayers and name callers.

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[TG]

THIS should send chills down the spines of the naysayers and name callers.

oh my

You got it backward, you are the naysayer!
And of course TC is right about medical trials.

Hint: They are referring to vaccins not yet approved by them/Health Canada...


As I feel like dealing with the IQ of a flat Earther you are right about one thing, name callers.

[FL320]

THIS should send chills down the spines of the naysayers and name callers.

oh my

You got it backward, you are the naysayer!
And of course TC is right about medical trials.

Hint: They are referring to vaccins not yet approved by them/Health Canada...


As I feel like dealing with the IQ of a flat Earther you are right about one thing, name callers.

TG, it’s clearly written Covid 19 vaccine!
Look if you’re proud to be vaccinated; good for you. I am astonished to see so many idiots showing their arms and vaccination stickers on social medias; like if they were 5 years old. You decided to be a sheep without questioning the safety of what’s injected in your body, that’s your personal choice and you must respect other people’s choice too. I personally thank you for being front line in the trial, seriously thank you very much for your devotion. In the mean time many doctors and renowned experts are sounding an alarm regarding these vaccines; their conclusions are scientifically analyzed and well documented. Of course at this stage governments can’t go back; it’s totally understandable. But people are dying or having serious issues because of the vaccines; and in terms of aviation safety I wouldn’t accept to be a passenger on a plane flown by 2 recently vaccinated pilots; this should be forbidden…period.

[altiplano]

As I feel like dealing with the IQ of a flat Earther you are right about one thing, name callers.

In the same sentence, he's right about name callers, as you toss innuendo and insult.

[JerryRig]

THIS should send chills down the spines of the naysayers and name callers.

oh my

You got it backward, you are the naysayer!
And of course TC is right about medical trials.

Hint: They are referring to vaccins not yet approved by them/Health Canada...


As I feel like dealing with the IQ of a flat Earther you are right about one thing, name callers.

That’s what I’m sayin, dumbass THIS HAS NOT BEEN APPROVED BY HEALTH CANADA! THIS HAS BEEN AUTHORIZED UNDER THE EMERGENCY MEASURES ACT ONLY!!!