Fall Equipment Bid

[the-minister31]

Anyone hear of any updated news out yet regarding the up coming bid ?

Or is it radio silence till the 15th.

I'd be surprised if we hear anything before mid-august.

[acpaleaks]

Prob not until after the AC bid is my guess which has now been delayed until next week. They do all the crewing calculations together then AC sends what they need to Jazz.

[rudder]

Prob not until after the AC bid is my guess which has now been delayed until next week. They do all the crewing calculations together then AC sends what they need to Jazz.

I don’t think there is much doubt at AC about the summer commercial schedule for North America except perhaps some tweaking as between mainline metal (including Rouge) and Express aircraft.

I think that the International schedule may be subject to less certainty hence an evaluation of WB staffing requirements.

[KenoraPilot]

Honestly I do not expect a bid to be released until every recalled pilot is back on property (Aug 29). Cannot hold a bid if all your members are not “active”.

I’d expect Aug 30-31 at the earliest, sometime in September realistically.

[the-minister31]

Honestly I do not expect a bid to be released until every recalled pilot is back on property (Aug 29). Cannot hold a bid if all your members are not “active”.

I’d expect Aug 30-31 at the earliest, sometime in September realistically.

But can they release the available positions before the 29th but close the bid after everyone's back? Inactives would need the access to the ESPB(I think) before the 29.

[Admiral Benson]

The plan was just communicated to the pilots. The bid is planned for the week of August 23rd with results being published in mid to late September

[KenoraPilot]

Bid released between Aug 23 and not later 31st.

Results late September

[JetSetter87]

What do you mean by that. Vacancies and baseline numbers posted on the 23 and the actual award of positions in September? Or is end of September the final version of the bid with no more corrections?

[the-minister31]

What do you mean by that. Vacancies and baseline numbers posted on the 23 and the actual award of positions in September? Or is end of September the final version of the bid with no more corrections?

Bid out "between the 23 and 31"

2 weeks to bid

2 weeks to process

Except if there is a mistake, results will be out between mid and late september

If there is a mistake, we have 2 weeks to report it.

[QKZXKV]

What do you mean by that. Vacancies and baseline numbers posted on the 23 and the actual award of positions in September? Or is end of September the final version of the bid with no more corrections?

Bid out "between the 23 and 31"

2 weeks to bid

2 weeks to process

Except if there is a mistake, results will be out between mid and late september

If there is a mistake, we have 2 weeks to report it.

All the best to everyone!

[Outlaw58]

Bid's out

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[Kosiw]

Would anyone (in the know) kindly share the details if possible.

[rudder]

Would anyone (in the know) kindly share the details if possible.

1326 flying positions. Estimated to be approximately 90% of pre-COVID commercial schedule.

This represents full employment for active Jazz pilots as of Aug 29.

[Kosiw]

Would anyone (in the know) kindly share the details if possible.

1326 flying positions. Estimated to be approximately 90% of pre-COVID commercial schedule.

This represents full employment for active Jazz pilots as of Aug 29.

Rudder, does the 1326 flying positions mean "line pilots" (term you have used in previous posts on this subject) ?

[rudder]

Rudder, does the 1326 flying positions mean "line pilots" (term you have used in previous posts on this subject) ?

Yes. Excludes inactive pilots (med leave/management/training department/LOA).

By way of comparison, the last Jazz equipment bid prior to COVID had 1300 flying positions. But it did NOT include the SKV E175 flying positions. SKV seniority list at time of consolidation was 283 but included management and training dept pilots and perhaps several LOA/med leave.

There are 328 E175 flying positions in the bid which is well beyond the SKV pilot totals when it was staffed separately.

The Jazz CBA and the CAR’s FTDT changes appear to have increased the staffing ratio. AC may also be planning increased utilization for the Express E175 fleet necessitating higher crewing levels.

[Outlaw58]

The forecasted hours include the Embraer flying and 0 hours for the DH8 obviously, which brings us to 90% of what Jazz alone was flying pre-covid.

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[Kosiw]

Did any of the bases grow or shrink as a result of this bid ?

[Outlaw58]

Did any of the bases grow or shrink as a result of this bid ?

Baseline established to maintain base stability. However, there is an imbalance in that the bulk of the flying will be in the east. The baseline could be adjusted adhoc to allow pilot to migrate from West to East, but not the other way around.

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[Inverted2]

All classic Dash is gone by Feb and very little Q400 in YYZ left. A bit of growth for YYZ and YUL but status quo out west (due to the Asia flying reduced from the coof)

[QKZXKV]

I had the numbers shared with me today, very interesting and again, all the best!

[Kosiw]

All classic Dash is gone by Feb and very little Q400 in YYZ left. A bit of growth for YYZ and YUL but status quo out west (due to the Asia flying reduced from the coof)

So where are the YYZ Q400s going ?

[Inverted2]

All other bases but YYZ. YUL has a decent amount of Q expansion.

[Vico56]

SO, is that a good thing ?

[Kosiw]

Rudder, does the 1326 flying positions mean "line pilots" (term you have used in previous posts on this subject) ?

Yes. Excludes inactive pilots (med leave/management/training department/LOA).

By way of comparison, the last Jazz equipment bid prior to COVID had 1300 flying positions. But it did NOT include the SKV E175 flying positions. SKV seniority list at time of consolidation was 283 but included management and training dept pilots and perhaps several LOA/med leave.

There are 328 E175 flying positions in the bid which is well beyond the SKV pilot totals when it was staffed separately.

The Jazz CBA and the CAR’s FTDT changes appear to have increased the staffing ratio. AC may also be planning increased utilization for the Express E175 fleet necessitating higher crewing levels.

I guess I'll ask the question that many of us are now wondering, based on this bid (the 1326 flying positions), is it possible that Jazz may have to hire this fall (sooner than speculated from previous posts), if once the bid closes not all of those laid off last year actually return to Jazz... (I understand the number will probably be a small %) ??? Or will things ramp up slowly especially due to training bottlenecks ??

Thanks in advance for your reply.

[rudder]

Jazz hiring 2021? Zero possibility.

Slight chance spring 2022, but not based on current plan.

I would be leaning towards fall 2022 or winter 2022/2023.