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C-GGGQ wrote: Tue Aug 17, 2021 5:03 pm
Inverted2 wrote: Tue Aug 17, 2021 4:47 pm
CpnCrunch wrote: Tue Aug 17, 2021 3:06 pm

What?
I think he’s mocking the communist Chinese party’s “social credit score”. Don’t laugh, it’s a real thing. Google it!
I believe he’s talking about the summer jobs program where the govt made every company who was going to apply for money for the summer interns to sign a document attesting to Liberal values ie making church run summer camps say they fully supported abortions to qualify for the funding.
Are you saying the Lieberals are pro choice on some health issues but not others? :roll:
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C-GGGQ wrote: Tue Aug 17, 2021 5:03 pm
Inverted2 wrote: Tue Aug 17, 2021 4:47 pm
CpnCrunch wrote: Tue Aug 17, 2021 3:06 pm

What?
I think he’s mocking the communist Chinese party’s “social credit score”. Don’t laugh, it’s a real thing. Google it!
I believe he’s talking about the summer jobs program where the govt made every company who was going to apply for money for the summer interns to sign a document attesting to Liberal values ie making church run summer camps say they fully supported abortions to qualify for the funding.
Yep. Next, OAS, CPP will be conditional. Future CERB……
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rookiepilot wrote: Tue Aug 17, 2021 6:38 pm
C-GGGQ wrote: Tue Aug 17, 2021 5:03 pm
Inverted2 wrote: Tue Aug 17, 2021 4:47 pm

I think he’s mocking the communist Chinese party’s “social credit score”. Don’t laugh, it’s a real thing. Google it!
I believe he’s talking about the summer jobs program where the govt made every company who was going to apply for money for the summer interns to sign a document attesting to Liberal values ie making church run summer camps say they fully supported abortions to qualify for the funding.
Yep. Next, OAS, CPP will be conditional. Future CERB……
Sounds like you don't have any basic understanding of the liberal policies, or what they've actually been doing for that past whatever many years they've been in power wrt China and human rights, but whatever. That's fine.
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Mach1 wrote: Tue Aug 17, 2021 4:57 pm
Look, it's extremely clear that you don't have an argument you can make for voting for Trudeau.
I'm not looking for an argument for voting for Trudeau. I'm pissed off at the liberals for foisting an election on us, and having the gall to have zero plan published. It's just a question of which is the least bad party.

As for SNC Lavalin, the ethically-challenged taped conversation between Wilson-Raybould and Wernick is illumininating. Basically Wilson-Raybould's argument for not entering a DPA was because she felt it would look like political interference. Which, in itself, is a type of political interference. Wernick was trying to figure out the reasons for her dismissal of the DPA, and she didn't really give him any valid reasons. Also, he was looking for the Section 13 report that her office had apparently emailed, but had gone missing somewhere, and she agreed to sent it again. Other testimony from her deputy shows that she instructed her office not to release the memo to the PCO giving details about the effects on SNC of not entering a DPA. (She said she doesn't remember this, but her deputy specifically says she was ordered by Wilson-Raybould not to release it). This memo was later released after she left the office, and SNC did later get the settlement they were looking for.
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So the PC's just won Nova Scotia provincially. What are the chances they will double down on blue?
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2112 wrote: Tue Aug 17, 2021 9:20 pm So the PC's just won Nova Scotia provincially. What are the chances they will double down on blue?
It shows that the polls aren't necessarily to be believed.
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2112 wrote: Tue Aug 17, 2021 9:20 pm So the PC's just won Nova Scotia provincially. What are the chances they will double down on blue?

I think the voters in Nova scotia was more of a referendum on the liberal handling of the pandemic/lockdowns/restrictions etc and not really a vote for support of the cons
It was just a vote against whoever was in power at the time.

The health minister got tossed, seems people didn’t like the health restrictions

And an independent who used to be a member of the pc party but got tossed for attending an anti lockdown rally won as an independent-seems like the voters liked the anti govt pandemic rules.
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hotdog1 wrote: Wed Aug 18, 2021 3:42 pm
2112 wrote: Tue Aug 17, 2021 9:20 pm So the PC's just won Nova Scotia provincially. What are the chances they will double down on blue?

I think the voters in Nova scotia was more of a referendum on the liberal handling of the pandemic/lockdowns/restrictions etc and not really a vote for support of the cons
It was just a vote against whoever was in power at the time.

The health minister got tossed, seems people didn’t like the health restrictions

And an independent who used to be a member of the pc party but got tossed for attending an anti lockdown rally won as an independent-seems like the voters liked the anti govt pandemic rules.
Talking to family and friends out there, there was no real good candidate. A lot didn't know who they'd vote for or would not vote. Seeing how the cons got the majority, they were seen as the lesser of evils, which, even in the coming election is a game we'll have to play.
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The ineptitude of the Liberal leader aka Premier certainly was evident, his silliness on NS/NB border early summer, non-disclosure of two DUI charges while he turfed out a likeable Female candidate on questionable issues. He was outgunned on the Health delivery file big time as that is a very big issue here in NS. As for the Premier elect, he stated publicly he and his party are “ Progressive Conservative” , have no ties with the CPC due ideological differences and he himself isn’t a member of that party, he stressed several time his Progressive Conservative credentials and considers NS a progressive Province - which it is. The Liberal Premier deserved to get shown the door however it won’t be bridgehead for O’Toole and CPC.
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CpnCrunch wrote: Tue Aug 17, 2021 6:54 pm 1: It's just a question of which is the least bad party.

2: As for SNC Lavalin, the ethically-challenged taped conversation between Wilson-Raybould and Wernick is illumininating. Basically Wilson-Raybould's argument for not entering a DPA was because she felt it would look like political interference. Which, in itself, is a type of political interference. Wernick was trying to figure out the reasons for her dismissal of the DPA, and she didn't really give him any valid reasons. Also, he was looking for the Section 13 report that her office had apparently emailed, but had gone missing somewhere, and she agreed to sent it again. Other testimony from her deputy shows that she instructed her office not to release the memo to the PCO giving details about the effects on SNC of not entering a DPA. (She said she doesn't remember this, but her deputy specifically says she was ordered by Wilson-Raybould not to release it). This memo was later released after she left the office, and SNC did later get the settlement they were looking for.
1: Currently, the Liberals are the worst party. The most corrupt Prime Minister the nation has ever had, the largest debt the nation has ever seen and climbing, bad policies and lining the pockets of themselves, their families and their friends. Vote anyone but the Liberals on this election.

2: I have no idea why you are hung up on SNC but it was a very clear violation of the separation between the judiciary and the executive.... if you don't see that as a problem then I question the moral compass you are using to pick your party of choice.

You presented this as part of your argument
How did you feel about electing a leader who used 18k of his party's money for his kids' private school?
This has been bothering me so I'll ask it, are you saying Erin O'Toole used 18K of his party's money to send his kids to private school? If so, would you care to present that evidence. Because... and this is what I just absolutely hate about all Liberal supporters... that was Andrew Sheer who is NOT even running for a seat in this election. Liberal supporters NEVER talk about the guy who is running today, it's ALWAYS about someone who is long gone and missing in action.

Let's try this tactic from my side of the fence and see if you think the argument is valid: Sir John A. McDonald gave indigenous people the right to vote in Canada. That right was taken away by Wilfred Laurier's Liberal government. How do you feel about that? Let's skip ahead to more recent history. How do you feel about the fact that Pierre Trudeau attempted to seize the natural resources of ONE and ONLY ONE province in Confederation? PT attempted to nationalize a resource belonging to one province to force the sale of that resource at well below market prices to keep a different province happy so he could win an election. PT did this against the laws of Confederation in an attempt to turn us into a nation not unlike Venezuela, and we can all see how wonderfully nationalized natural resources have worked in that country. How do you feel about that? How do you feel about that same man coming to the west and giving the citizens he is hired and paid to serve the middle finger because he didn't like the fact that these people were not happy with his governance? Is that acceptable national leadership in your view?

I could go on and on and on about Liberal abuses from the past. I'm sure you can do the same about Conservative abuses from the past. The point is, we have to deal with the people who are here and running now. And Trudeau must go.
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FOD wrote: Tue Aug 17, 2021 11:25 pm The people will get the government they deserve. If this forum is a sampling of the greater population, then, I fear deeply for the future of Canada. Take a look around. Look through the ‘news’ sites. Sample the rhetoric. Look into peoples eyes. Who do you think speaks to these people? Find the charlatan and you find your next government. It that will speak the most absurdity, that will be the next government.
We are year one into the North American Dark Ages.
Yes, and I know who the charlatan is... he drinks from his water box on the steps of his cottage while we pay $18,000,000 to build his wife a mansion because they are separated, except when it comes to photo ops. Dark Ages ahead indeed.
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Seize Trudeau’s trust fund and use it to pay down the debt.
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Conservative, simple as that. The way my MP (Kenora riding) has worked his ass of for aviation, tourism, and LAGO's has been second to none. ALL the other parties told us (tourism and aviation sector) to pretty much GFY, while forcing us to bend over and cough.
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tsgarp wrote: Thu Aug 19, 2021 6:50 pm Seize Trudeau’s trust fund and use it to pay down the debt.
I think you’ll need Jeff Bezos, Bill Gates and the whole Rothschild family to chip in and even that wouldn’t cover Trudumbs debt problem. :wink:
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Inverted2 wrote: Fri Aug 20, 2021 7:05 am
tsgarp wrote: Thu Aug 19, 2021 6:50 pm Seize Trudeau’s trust fund and use it to pay down the debt.
I think you’ll need Jeff Bezos, Bill Gates and the whole Rothschild family to chip in and even that wouldn’t cover Trudumbs debt problem. :wink:
Point well taken. That aside, it would feel good to make him a pauper.
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FOD wrote: Mon Sep 20, 2021 1:11 pm https://canoe.com/news/election-2021/li ... 87d517337a


Come on Canadians, do the right thing. Say no to sexual misconduct, say no to racism, say no to pandemicism, say no to Trudeau.

FOD
While sayings YES to one of the "other" squeaky clean politician. We really are stuck between a rock and a hard place politically speaking in this country, what a mess on every level.
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Maybe it's the endorsement by Barack and Hillary that keeps the faithful voting for this?
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After listening to radio commercials for a month, viewing facebook ads for the same amount of time, I still don't know what the Conservative party actually wants to do. All that wasted money only to communicate Trudeau == bad. It's a missed opportunity to actually communicate about what they want to accomplish.

And then "Amy from Canada's Conservatives" sent spam to my phone, spreading that same silly negative message.
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Why are we having this election 2 years early at a $600 million cost?

Liberal supporters, give me a clear, no BS, quality answer, I’ll vote for Trudeau.
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rookiepilot wrote: Mon Sep 20, 2021 3:37 pm Why are we having this election 2 years early at a $600 million cost?

Liberal supporters, give me a clear, no BS, quality answer, I’ll vote for Trudeau.
He's attempting to capitalize on a position of perceived strength; as advised by his "handlers", to achieve a majority government. There it is; clear, concise and no BS, now go do as promised. :wink:
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telex wrote: Mon Sep 20, 2021 1:33 pm Maybe it's the endorsement by Barack and Hillary that keeps the faithful voting for this?

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Loon-A-Tic wrote: Mon Sep 20, 2021 4:24 pm
rookiepilot wrote: Mon Sep 20, 2021 3:37 pm Why are we having this election 2 years early at a $600 million cost?

Liberal supporters, give me a clear, no BS, quality answer, I’ll vote for Trudeau.
He's attempting to capitalize on a position of perceived strength; as advised by his "handlers", to achieve a majority government. There it is; clear, concise and no BS, now go do as promised. :wink:
Sorry. I lied. And approved by the No-Bs committee. Anyway polls are closed, too late
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telex wrote: Mon Sep 20, 2021 1:33 pm Maybe it's the endorsement by Barack and Hillary that keeps the faithful voting for this?

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I just don't understand who is actually voting for that party's ass clown. You'd think people would be either pushed to O'Toole or just go with Singh.
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rookiepilot wrote: Mon Sep 20, 2021 5:05 pm
Loon-A-Tic wrote: Mon Sep 20, 2021 4:24 pm
rookiepilot wrote: Mon Sep 20, 2021 3:37 pm Why are we having this election 2 years early at a $600 million cost?

Liberal supporters, give me a clear, no BS, quality answer, I’ll vote for Trudeau.
He's attempting to capitalize on a position of perceived strength; as advised by his "handlers", to achieve a majority government. There it is; clear, concise and no BS, now go do as promised. :wink:
Sorry. I lied. And approved by the No-Bs committee. Anyway polls are closed, too late
No worries, besides there not much in the way of "leadership" to choose from anyway. :?
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'97 Tercel wrote: Mon Sep 20, 2021 5:26 pm
telex wrote: Mon Sep 20, 2021 1:33 pm Maybe it's the endorsement by Barack and Hillary that keeps the faithful voting for this?

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I just don't understand who is actually voting for that party's ass clown. You'd think people would be either pushed to O'Toole or just go with Singh.
The GTA has so many seats they decide the elections now. Plus the FSA (free shit army) always votes red or orange.

Also, if you voted PPC you voted for Justin because of the vote splitting.
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