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The Taliban will be looking for flight instructors to teach them to fly the aircraft and helicopters left behind by the Americans, Maybe they will sell some aviation equipment for cheap, If your looking for a jet give them a call, 😃
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Anyone know what the Taliban starting pay is for a Caravan? I hear you get an M-16 as a signing bonus. :lol:
Plus you don’t have to worry about icing over there. :mrgreen:
And no, I don’t want to start on the “ramp” :shock:
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https://www.scramble.nl/military-news/t ... Zg6q0z1M2g

The Air Force that never was

Due to recent developments in the country, many Afghan Air Force (AAF) aircraft have fled for neighbouring Uzbekistan. According to Uzbek media, 22 fixed wing planes and 24 helicopters from the Afghan Air Force had fled to Termez Airport in Uzbekistan.

One Super Tucano crashed after a collision with an Uzbek MiG-29 which accompanied it.

In the past week, more than three dozen AAF aircraft had flown to Uzbekistan, to prevent them from falling in the hands of the Taliban after the group regained control over the country again.

The arrival of the AAF aircraft and helicopters at Termez Airport in southern Uzbekistan was first reported by local media on 15 and 16 August. Later this was verified with commercial satellite imagery confirming the relocation of a significant part of the AAF. Satellite imagery from Planet Labs appeared to indicate that helicopters and small, fixed-wing aircraft were at Termez on 16 August.

Noted on the imagery were some Cessna 208s, Pilatus PC-12s and Sierra Nevada/ Embraer A-29B Super Tucano light attack aircraft, along with up to sixteen Mi-8/Mi-17s, five Mi-24/35s, and five UH-60 Black Hawks.

With a steady build-up in recent years and a name change from Afghan National Army Air Corps to Afghan Air Force in 2010, and with international support, a reasonable air fleet was still available up to a few weeks ago.

What will happen to the aircraft and helicopters is not known at this moment. In the Panjshir Valley there is now a great resistance towards the Taliban and to the things that are now going on in Afghanistan. The resistance consists of former Afghan military and local militant groups.

It is possible that the fled aircraft and helicopters will be returned to them in due time.
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Jeez, I hope they took the technical records with them :)
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photofly wrote: Sat Aug 21, 2021 3:17 pm Jeez, I hope they took the technical records with them :)
That’s illegal. You can’t carry them in the plane.
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lownslow wrote: Sun Aug 22, 2021 7:00 am
photofly wrote: Sat Aug 21, 2021 3:17 pm Jeez, I hope they took the technical records with them :)
That’s illegal. You can’t carry them in the plane.
You can.

605.93 (3)
"The owner of an aircraft shall ensure that all of the necessary measures are taken to protect the technical records for the aircraft from damage and loss."
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I don’t really want to show off my ignorance but…

Why would they have left any aircraft behind?
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They didn't...a good number of the fleet fled to Uzbekistan and Tajikistan.

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/4 ... k-airfield
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lownslow wrote: Sun Aug 22, 2021 7:00 am
photofly wrote: Sat Aug 21, 2021 3:17 pm Jeez, I hope they took the technical records with them :)
That’s illegal. You can’t carry them in the plane.
How would you have maintenance done on your aircraft that is unable to be performed at your home base?

In this day and age, there should be a digital log of all maintenance records, or at least, a photo saved of every page. It's not just about the law... it's about resale value.
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Thanks dhc#.

The statement, “ left behind by the Americans” in the OP made it sound like the US military left planes behind. I thought that sounded crazy.
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notwhoyouthinkIam wrote: Mon Aug 23, 2021 7:18 am
lownslow wrote: Sun Aug 22, 2021 7:00 am
photofly wrote: Sat Aug 21, 2021 3:17 pm Jeez, I hope they took the technical records with them :)
That’s illegal. You can’t carry them in the plane.
How would you have maintenance done on your aircraft that is unable to be performed at your home base?

In this day and age, there should be a digital log of all maintenance records, or at least, a photo saved of every page. It's not just about the law... it's about resale value.
There's no law that says you can't carry maintenance records in a plane.
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photofly wrote: Mon Aug 23, 2021 7:37 am
notwhoyouthinkIam wrote: Mon Aug 23, 2021 7:18 am
lownslow wrote: Sun Aug 22, 2021 7:00 am
That’s illegal. You can’t carry them in the plane.
How would you have maintenance done on your aircraft that is unable to be performed at your home base?

In this day and age, there should be a digital log of all maintenance records, or at least, a photo saved of every page. It's not just about the law... it's about resale value.
There's no law that says you can't carry maintenance records in a plane.
Yes, I see how my comment could be taken that way. I was agreeing that the misconception that you cannot take maintenance records on a plane is false.
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I love it when a simple throwaway joke gets “Um, actually’d”
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Beefitarian wrote: Mon Aug 23, 2021 6:47 am I don’t really want to show off my ignorance but…

Why would they have left any aircraft behind?
Bagram was pretty empty when we were last there roughly 3 months ago.
Kandahar when i was last there six months or so ago was still quite active and busy. I have no idea how much of their AF they got out.
Kabul had the American military aprons (which were still quite busy as of a month ago when I went there twice but were slowing down quite fast) but also the Aghan "air force" apron which I've never seen their Aircraft move in years.
The Americans also left behind all this equipment to help out the ANA who then immediately surrendered and handed it over to the Taliban.
My guess is there was simply too much gathered over the last 20 years that they couldn't get out by their deadline so they had to prioritize what to take and what to leave behind.
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One wonders if some of the critical nuts and bolts were discreetly loosened prior to the hand over? I'm not sure I'd be in a hurry to fly in any of those machines until they'd been given a thorough once-over by a seasoned AME..
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Do they have an STC for the external loads hanging off their newly acquired helicopters ?
At what length of rope do the hanging Afghanis be considered requiring long line training ?
Or do the normal external loads rules not apply when you are murdering someone using a helicopter ?
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