"Unvaccinated in B.C. hospitalized with COVID-19 at a rate 17 times higher than fully vaccinated."
"25% of the province responsible for 84% of COVID-19 hospitalizations, new data shows."
"Of the 113 new hospitalizations for COVID-19 between Aug. 10 and Aug. 16, 95 were among people completely unvaccinated, compared to just 12 for fully vaccinated people and six who were partly vaccinated. "
Mandatory vaccines, mandatory masks… what will they think of next! Nothing seems to be working
Israel got first crack at vaccines… looks like the immunity doesn’t last long. Who would have thought big pharma would invent a vaccine you just keep taking because it only lasts 6 months! ChaChing!!! As soon as mandatory vaccines and passports are out we will then get the news to line up for boosters because are 6 month old second doses are no longer effective
The unvaccinated appear to be responsible for the current outbreak and the reintroduction of Covid restrictions. I live in the interior region of BC where the issue seems to be most acute. Hopefully, the introduction of the passport in BC will bring the outbreak under control.
ALPApolicy wrote: ↑Tue Aug 24, 2021 4:11 pm
Hopefully, the introduction of the passport in BC will bring the outbreak under control.
Good luck with that. Do you really think when 80 percent of eligible people are vaccinated, mandating it to clinch another 5 percent is a game changer?
Inverted2 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 24, 2021 4:47 pm
What if you self identify as vaccinated?
Since the vaccines are so effective, why are the vaxxed so worried about the non-vaxxed?
I identify differently every day depending how I’m feeling about my antibodies
The vaccines are not very effective because variants and mutations. No way they will eradicate covid. It’s just like the flu. Experts may as well spill the beans that every year people will need a shot to keep up with the latest mutations. So it’s nothing like the vaccines we have for other diseases like measles, polio etc.
ALPApolicy wrote: ↑Tue Aug 24, 2021 4:11 pm"Unvaccinated in B.C. hospitalized with COVID-19 at a rate 17 times higher than fully vaccinated."
"25% of the province responsible for 84% of COVID-19 hospitalizations, new data shows."
"Of the 113 new hospitalizations for COVID-19 between Aug. 10 and Aug. 16, 95 were among people completely unvaccinated, compared to just 12 for fully vaccinated people and six who were partly vaccinated. "
Mandatory vaccines, mandatory masks… what will they think of next! Nothing seems to be working
Israel got first crack at vaccines… looks like the immunity doesn’t last long. Who would have thought big pharma would invent a vaccine you just keep taking because it only lasts 6 months! ChaChing!!! As soon as mandatory vaccines and passports are out we will then get the news to line up for boosters because are 6 month old second doses are no longer effective
The unvaccinated appear to be responsible for the current outbreak and the reintroduction of Covid restrictions. I live in the interior region of BC where the issue seems to be most acute. Hopefully, the introduction of the passport in BC will bring the outbreak under control.
Not exactly what the media in Israel is saying... Isreael is having a hard time with coping with hospital admissions of fully vaccinated people.... Now they are saying that only those with 3 shots will get covid green passes.
Extremely happy to see they’re taking pause on this and finding options to make work for “everyone”. Hats off to them, this obviously isn’t easy to navigate through now that it has become so political and polarizing.
Once again, ALPA stepping up and leading by example in our industry!
I hope the group here on AvCanada can leave this alone now and show some maturity on the subject… I guess we’ll see.
Transition9er2 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 25, 2021 10:52 am
Great news from ALPA today on the vaccine front.
Extremely happy to see they’re taking pause on this and finding options to make work for “everyone”. Hats off to them, this obviously isn’t easy to navigate through now that it has become so political and polarizing.
Once again, ALPA stepping up and leading by example in our industry!
I hope the group here on AvCanada can leave this alone now and show some maturity on the subject… I guess we’ll see.
Gosh, I didn't interpret the ALPA email in the same way you did. They said that their legal advice was that the government of Canada seems to be on solid ground in implementing the employment requirement of a vaccination(s), and air carriers are similarly on solid footing.
ALPA does say they reject threats of termination, and further they expect companies to respect their collective agreements.
notwhoyouthinkIam wrote: ↑Wed Aug 25, 2021 11:18 am
What is ALPA going to do about a Federal mandate with (allegedly) strong legal footing?
If the government says you need to be vaccinated, the company cannot tell them to shove it.
Relax commrade... Your rights are important but so are rights of others too. You have family to feed, so does the other side, except the other side is not ready to be part of the medical experiment.. Which is ok by me, just as it is ok if one side wants to contribute to the experiment with potential serious side effects... Both sides have valid points, so I would be careful at pulling the trigger at one.
And as far as I'm concerned, I've seen the government too many times doing corrupt things, not in best interests of people, so why should they be the authority when it comes to certain things they mandate?
notwhoyouthinkIam wrote: ↑Wed Aug 25, 2021 11:18 am
What is ALPA going to do about a Federal mandate with (allegedly) strong legal footing?
If the government says you need to be vaccinated, the company cannot tell them to shove it.
Relax commrade... Your rights are important but so are rights of others too. You have family to feed, so does the other side, except the other side is not ready to be part of the medical experiment.. Which is ok by me, just as it is ok if one side wants to contribute to the experiment with potential serious side effects... Both sides have valid points, so I would be careful at pulling the trigger at one.
Don't be condescending just because you don't like the fact that lawyers have stated that the vaccine mandate is unlikely to be defeated in court.
tbaylx wrote: ↑Sat Aug 21, 2021 3:43 pm
I think you may be misunderstanding what a vaccine does. It doesn't prevent you from getting the virus, it (in the vast majority of cases) prevents you from ending up in an ICU and turns something potentially life threatening into a couple of days head cold.
Is that what it's for?
Or more like that's what they have pivoted the narrative to be now...
Previously it was to provide immunity, which of course it does not. Now it only provides a minor decrease in symptoms in some people for a brief period requiring an endless string of booster doses.
Remember that the vast vast majority of people have minor to no symptoms anyway.
So no immunity, minimal affect for most regards symptoms, continuously expanding picture of adverse effects...
Funny eh, natural immunity does not count for anything. Since when does that “ science” exist in the context of an illness.?
tbaylx wrote: ↑Sat Aug 21, 2021 3:43 pm
I think you may be misunderstanding what a vaccine does. It doesn't prevent you from getting the virus, it (in the vast majority of cases) prevents you from ending up in an ICU and turns something potentially life threatening into a couple of days head cold.
Is that what it's for?
Or more like that's what they have pivoted the narrative to be now...
Previously it was to provide immunity, which of course it does not. Now it only provides a minor decrease in symptoms in some people for a brief period requiring an endless string of booster doses.
Remember that the vast vast majority of people have minor to no symptoms anyway.
So no immunity, minimal affect for most regards symptoms, continuously expanding picture of adverse effects...
Funny eh, natural immunity does not count for anything. Since when does that “ science” exist in the context of an illness.?
Or more like that's what they have pivoted the narrative to be now...
Previously it was to provide immunity, which of course it does not. Now it only provides a minor decrease in symptoms in some people for a brief period requiring an endless string of booster doses.
Remember that the vast vast majority of people have minor to no symptoms anyway.
So no immunity, minimal affect for most regards symptoms, continuously expanding picture of adverse effects...
Funny eh, natural immunity does not count for anything. Since when does that “ science” exist in the context of an illness.?
McKinley wrote: ↑Wed Aug 25, 2021 6:26 pm
Keep in mind, this is a group of people who are functioning as a governing body while being largely unelected.
( CEO of BP, CEO of Mastercard, Greta Thunberg, Opra, etc etc)
McKinley wrote: ↑Wed Aug 25, 2021 6:26 pm
Keep in mind, this is a group of people who are functioning as a governing body while being largely unelected.
( CEO of BP, CEO of Mastercard, Greta Thunberg, Opra, etc etc)
McKinley wrote: ↑Wed Aug 25, 2021 6:26 pm
Keep in mind, this is a group of people who are functioning as a governing body while being largely unelected.
( CEO of BP, CEO of Mastercard, Greta Thunberg, Opra, etc etc)
Greta Thunberg?
LMAO! None of you should be operating an aircraft without seeking psychological help first.