FDA (full) Approves First COVID-19 Vaccine

[altiplano]

These guys are ALL about the money. They manipulate the regulator, they manipulate the data, they create the need... they don't give a shit.

Sorry to burst your bubble. The Pfizer share price is up, what, 25% on January 2020. AZ about 15%, both lagging significantly behind the S&P 500 which is up 40%. Meanwhile Amazon and Apple are both up 100%. I think you're barking up the wrong tree, if you think big pharma is behind this. Search Jeff Bezos's basement... that's where the virus came from.

I'm speaking about the documentary, the business behind pharmaceuticals, the billions in earnings, the need to constantly create a market.

Naive if you don't think there is any parallel.

[photofly]

Pfizer is a huge company with over 40 billion in annual revenue. A booster dose to Americans and Canadians is worth about 10 billion in revenue divided up by whoever provides it. For the company, Pfizer, being such a huge company this won’t turn them into a Bitcoin investment.
Look for the documentary on this topic in 2040 on a Netflix original on dirty money.

You haven't the slightest idea what you're talking about.

Pfizer's market cap today is USD$258 billion. That's pretty big. But Amazon is worth USD$1760 billion, and Apple about USD$2500 billion - nearly 10 times bigger than Pfizer. Both those companies individually have massively outperformed any and all big Pharma put together during this pandemic.

If you're really dumb enough to believe this is some kind of "let's make a virus" conspiracy for profits, you're looking at the wrong malfeasors.

[altiplano]

If you're really dumb enough to believe this is some kind of "let's make a virus" conspiracy for profits, you're looking at the wrong malfeasors.

It is not "let's make a virus."
It is let's make hay while the sun shines, and let's do whatever we can to keep that sun shining.

[montado]

If you're really dumb enough to believe this is some kind of "let's make a virus" conspiracy for profits, you're looking at the wrong malfeasors.

It is not "let's make a virus."
It is let's make hay while the sun shines, and let's do whatever we can to keep that sun shining.

I don’t know altiplano, apparently it’s dumb to ask questions. And since apple and Amazon are bigger than Pfizer how dare we even act like it’s possible that politicians and companies are sometimes acting in their best interests and not public health.

I mean you can point out the obvious things about blocking the ability to produce generics. Apparently we need to protect these big pharma companies because lives are less important than making sure they can sell the vaccines for as much as possible.

But because their stock price is meh, this means it’s not possible! How dare you! How dare you ask questions! Only dumb people ask questions, and smart people just take vaccines and shut up!

I don’t think dumb is the word to describe what we are saying altiplano… if I wanted to come up with a word it would be “possible”. But some will think we are dumb! Where have the critical thinkers all gone?

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I wouldn’t in a million years want to dissuade anyone from asking questions. They reveal a lot about the questioner.

Apparently we need to protect these big pharma companies because lives are less important than making sure they can sell the vaccines for as much as possible.

Personally, I think Sobeys should give away groceries because, y’know, people are short of food, but heck no, lives are less important than making sure they can sell food for as much as possible.

Actually, houses are important to people too, I think those should be given away. How disgraceful that in winter people have to pay for a place to live.

And don’t get me started on the evil of profiting off fuel, or electricity!


Do I need to point out that the very reason you have a choice of different vaccines is because it wasn’t possible for everyone to sit around waiting for one vaccine to be invented and then all copy it for free?

[montado]

I wouldn’t in a million years want to dissuade anyone from asking questions. They reveal a lot about the questioner.

Oh good so I have a question. Where will you be in 999999 years when it’s your final year of being comfortable with people asking questions and what happens the year after that?

Personally, I think Sobeys should give away groceries because, y’know, people are short of food, but heck no, lives are less important than making sure they can sell food for as much as possible.

The difference being the vaccines were prepaid by the government and Pfizer had zero risk in the research and development of vaccines for covid. This means, the taxpayers should own the recipe, therefore we should decide who can produce it. It was also the original plan until a few people decided to block that from happening. Maybe next time I’d prefer if my taxes aren’t put on the line if the terms are going to change like that.

[photofly]

Pfizer had zero risk in the research and development of vaccines for covid

They had enormous risk. A useful vaccine might not have been possible at all. Groceries and fuel are the zero-risk goods, and it's disgraceful we allow the Weston family and big oil to profit off them.

[montado]

Pfizer had zero risk in the research and development of vaccines for covid

They had enormous risk. A useful vaccine might not have been possible at all. Groceries and fuel are the zero-risk goods, and it's disgraceful we allow the Weston family and big oil to profit off them.

What risk?

Government prepaid for the vaccines, so even if it was not effective, they got their money, and didn’t have to refund the governments for a vaccine that didn’t work.

Liability, everyone taking the vaccines takes it at their own risk, the pharma company assumes no liability.

So what financial risk did Pfizer take developing the covid vaccine? They were fronted the development costs and they are also not liable for damages. Talk about a free ride!

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The tax payers fronted research and development. You are welcome. We can only imagine what the American taxpayers also fronted along with other nations. Socialize the losses, privatize the profits! J and J got our tax dollars too, have you seen the taxpayers get any J and J covid vaccine yet? We took all the risk!