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It’s amazing how we smugly recommit the crimes of the past, While saying had we been there we would have resisted such terror.
Propaganda in its early days convinced reasonable people that the highest good was to support the rounding up torture and eventual genocide Of the Jewish people. This was presented as essential for national health and the the achievement of highest Political and moral good For the people and nation. I wonder if that incredible 1940 achievement Has at all Been studied by governments since then?? And if it’s at all possible techniques were noticed and learned and have improved in the last 70 years. Could they possibly be Being used in an even more effective fashions today I’m our time?!
Stumper wrote: ↑Wed Aug 25, 2021 8:27 pm
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It’s amazing how we smugly recommit the crimes of the past, While saying had we been there we would have resisted such terror.
Propaganda in its early days convinced reasonable people that the highest good was to support the rounding up torture and eventual genocide Of the Jewish people. This was presented as essential for national health and the the achievement of highest Political and moral good For the people and nation. I wonder if that incredible 1940 achievement Has at all Been studied by governments since then?? And if it’s at all possible techniques were noticed and learned and have improved in the last 70 years. Could they possibly be Being used in an even more effective fashions today I’m our time?!
First step in the dehumanizing of the Jews in the 1930s: Mein Kampf, and calling them plagues on society
First step in the dehumanizing of people apprehensive to taking the covid vaccine: Blaming them for the incoming, never avoidable, 4th wave, and the useless vaccine
The most obvious hole in your speech (one can't begin to call it an argument) is that remaining unvaccinated is a positive choice, and not something you were born to.
Nobody is dehumanizing anybody.
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DId you hear the one about the jurisprudence fetishist? He got off on a technicality.
montado wrote: ↑Sat Sep 04, 2021 4:36 pm
Being a Jew is not contagious. Covid is! That’s why it’s okay this time!
Famous words “it’s different this time” except it unfortunately never is. The reason it happened back then was that the majority of Germans had been propagandized to believe the Jews were diseased and contagious. Turns out it was all lies from the German government and media. The Nuremberg Code was made international law to prevent such a situation from ever happening again. Right now it’s being ignored and thrown into the trash bin. History continually repeats Itself and we seem to learn nothing from the past. It wasn’t ok last time and it’s not ok this time either. Will you even stop to think about this post when the government starts sending people to the Covid Containment camps that have already been built?
Nobody is forcing you to have the vaccine, if you don't want it, don't fucking get it.
Going to concerts and restaurants or working in aviation is not a fucking right.
Your actions and inactions have consequences, and this may become one of them.
Comparing a voluntary VACCINE meant to save lives to medical experimentation during the 3rd Reich is the single stupidest I've read recently on the internet, and I've read some pretty stupid things.
BigQ wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 8:09 am
And yet, no rebuttal.
First step in the dehumanizing of the Jews in the 1930s: Mein Kampf, and calling them plagues on society
First step in the dehumanizing of people apprehensive to taking the covid vaccine: Blaming them for the incoming, never avoidable, 4th wave, and the useless vaccine
Haha. Hahahhahahhahhahahahah!!
Oh man.. thanks for the laugh.
Because the Nazis were trying to get the Jews to be… … not Jews, right?
People aren’t de humanizing you. They are shaming you and calling out your stupidity. There’s a difference. And there’s a solution that doesn’t involve ghettos and gas chambers.
Godwin's law, short for Godwin's law (or rule) of Nazi analogies, is an Internet adage asserting that as an online discussion grows longer (regardless of topic or scope), the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Adolf Hitler approaches 1. In less mathematical terms, the longer the discussion, the more likely a Nazi comparison becomes, and with long enough discussions, it is a certainty.
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montado wrote: ↑Sat Sep 04, 2021 4:36 pm
Being a Jew is not contagious. Covid is! That’s why it’s okay this time!
Famous words “it’s different this time” except it unfortunately never is. The reason it happened back then was that the majority of Germans had been propagandized to believe the Jews were diseased and contagious. Turns out it was all lies from the German government and media. The Nuremberg Code was made international law to prevent such a situation from ever happening again. Right now it’s being ignored and thrown into the trash bin. History continually repeats Itself and we seem to learn nothing from the past. It wasn’t ok last time and it’s not ok this time either. Will you even stop to think about this post when the government starts sending people to the Covid Containment camps that have already been built?
My grand father if still alive, would literally give you a hard slap behind your head trying to shake your neurone(s?) back in place!
He somehow survived two years in concentration camp as prisoner of war, starting in Dachaud, finished it in Dora slave building V1 & V2.
I’ll let you Google those lovely spots.
Stop comparing the incomparable you are ridiculous or simply don’t understand a thing of what happened during those times.
Actually porcsord you are dead wrong. Going to retaurants and concerts and working in aviation IS a right reserved for citizens legally living in this country. It is called freedom. Freedom to choose. Pull your head out of your a**. Your actions and inactions have consequences?? Really? No kidding. Let's get together and talk about it.
I'm going to be the canary in the coal mine, as I've been fully vaccinated since January and I just attended a "Super Spreader" event this evening and I'm heading to another "Super Spreader" sports event tomorrow afternoon! I didn't wear a mask for today's event because it was outdoors (bad decision on my part, as it was super crowded), but I will for tomorrows.. more congested event.
So given the timeline, I may be sick with Covid in about a weeks time from now!
I'll report back... if I'm still alive in two weeks time.
palebird wrote: ↑Sun Sep 05, 2021 2:31 am
Actually porcsord you are dead wrong. Going to retaurants and concerts and working in aviation IS a right reserved for citizens legally living in this country. It is called freedom. Freedom to choose. Pull your head out of your a**. Your actions and inactions have consequences?? Really? No kidding. Let's get together and talk about it.
No, you do not have the right to work in aviation, you have the right to seek employment, but if it's deemed that you need a vaccine to be a pilot, then guess what: you're going to need a vaccine to be a pilot.
palebird wrote: ↑Sun Sep 05, 2021 2:31 am
Actually porcsord you are dead wrong. Going to retaurants and concerts and working in aviation IS a right reserved for citizens legally living in this country. It is called freedom. Freedom to choose. Pull your head out of your a**. Your actions and inactions have consequences?? Really? No kidding. Let's get together and talk about it.
The Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms
Fundamental Freedoms
2. Everyone has the following fundamental freedoms:
(a) freedom of conscience and religion;
(b) freedom of thought, belief, opinion and expression, including freedom
of the press and other media of communication;
(c) freedom of peaceful assembly; and
(d) freedom of association.
Mobility Rights
6.(1) Every citizen of Canada has the right to enter, remain in and leave
Canada.
(2) Every citizen of Canada and every person who has the status of a
permanent resident of Canada has the right
(a) to move to and take up residence in any province; and
(b) to pursue the gaining of a livelihood in any province.
No mention of concerts, restaurants or working in aviation.
palebird wrote: ↑Sun Sep 05, 2021 2:31 am
Actually porcsord you are dead wrong. Going to retaurants and concerts and working in aviation IS a right reserved for citizens legally living in this country. It is called freedom. Freedom to choose. Pull your head out of your a**. Your actions and inactions have consequences?? Really? No kidding. Let's get together and talk about it.
The Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms
Fundamental Freedoms
2. Everyone has the following fundamental freedoms:
(a) freedom of conscience and religion;
(b) freedom of thought, belief, opinion and expression, including freedom
of the press and other media of communication;
(c) freedom of peaceful assembly; and
(d) freedom of association.
Mobility Rights
6.(1) Every citizen of Canada has the right to enter, remain in and leave
Canada.
(2) Every citizen of Canada and every person who has the status of a
permanent resident of Canada has the right
(a) to move to and take up residence in any province; and
(b) to pursue the gaining of a livelihood in any province.
No mention of concerts, restaurants or working in aviation.
You missed section 1:
1. The Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms guarantees the rights and freedoms set out in it subject only to such reasonable limits prescribed by law as can be demonstrably justified in a free and democratic society.
1. The Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms guarantees the rights and freedoms set out in it subject only to such reasonable limits prescribed by law as can be demonstrably justified in a free and democratic society.
Your rights are subject to reasonable limits.
The pilot shortage will occur based largely in part to the endless "Prison Guards in waiting" around here.
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Liberalism itself as a religion where its tenets cannot be proven, but provides a sense of moral rectitude at no real cost.
The ignorance people have who are trying to say that Jews being rounded up and exterminated in Nazi Germany, is the same thing as today if f*ucking disgusting, irresponsible, and frankly a slap in the face to the Jewish people who died, survived and their families. I had over 600 relatives and extended family die in camps during WW2. Myself, and my family do noy draw ANY similarities between these 2.
You still have free choice today, they did not back then. You are not being rounded up by the hundreds or thousands and being sent to death camps, they were back then. You're not being forced to wear a patch on your clothing depicting you are not vaccinated, they were forced to wear a star depicting who they were back then.
Everyone needs to put on their adult pants, do proper research, that means looking at all sides objectively and coming to your own conclusions. Not just read or listen to one sided arguments. People need to stop posting shit about anything they dont like as being a Nazi type regime. When you do that, you take away from the true atrocities that they committed. Maybe all the ignorant people trying to make the connection, should get together, build a time machine and go back to 1930s Germany and see how bad it really was. Or open up a history textbook or go talk to survivors. But pull your heads out of your asses and be respectful and have a GD clue about what your talking about.
BigQ wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 8:09 am
First step in the dehumanizing of people apprehensive to taking the covid vaccine: Blaming them for the incoming, never avoidable, 4th wave, and the useless vaccine
That's because you actually are responsible for the next wave. The last numbers I saw had something like 500 COVID patients hospitalized. All but 7 of them were unvaccinated.
palebird wrote: ↑Sun Sep 05, 2021 2:31 am
Going to retaurants and concerts and working in aviation IS a right reserved for citizens legally living in this country. It is called freedom. Freedom to choose.
You do have freedom of choice. No one is forcing you to work in aviation which requires among other things, a current TC license, the ability to hold a RAIC and a full vaccination by the end of October. My wife's restaurant is hiring and currently does not require a vaccination to work there. That's an option that includes the ability to go out to a restaurant on a regular basis.
Maybe you keyboard lawyer, internet vaccine expert can STOP spread WRONG INFO on the internet. No one is holding you down and force you to get the vaccine. IF you don't agree with vaccine mandated, which I respect that decision, and you have right to walk away from aviation jobs.
My problem with the No-Vaccine-My-Rights crowd, is if they get sick, they are the very first ones screaming "My Rights"! in the ER to get seen first, elbowing the cancer patients (and anyone else) out of the way.
