I have a question for all of you!!
Does the PPC count as your re-ride for IFR.
If i'm wrong help me out .put me on the right track.
In your honest opinion is it better to buy a PPC or renew you IFR through a School?? What is the better deal for a low time guy?
re-rides or buying a PPC
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Your PPC is a PPC for the A/C, it just so happens if Transport doing your ride you are also tested on you IFR. Some companys may not renew your IFR if your doing a company ride to save money on the MOT IFR renewal fee (if you had recently had a IFR renewal) but most likely will still have you do full ride.
Oldtimer is a good person to explain this as that is what he does. So in answer to your question it depends
Oldtimer is a good person to explain this as that is what he does. So in answer to your question it depends
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I am a bit late on this but as far as what is best. That is a personal thing. DA900 is correct, a PPC is just what the sign says. Pilot Proficiency Check. It is generally considerd to be more of a company thing than a straight IFR renewal so if you are going to "buy" a PPC, then one of two things have to happen. Either the company doing the training has to hold a Flight Training Organization Certificate or they have to be a commercial Air Operator with there own approved training syllabus designed to train their own pilots so what a lot will do is hire you, train you and then fire you. Gets around the FTO requirement. Is it legal? I am not sure, but I think it is a bit grey. As far as the training and checkride goes, all elememts of a PPC also include all the elememts of a IFR renewal so everybody renews their IFR, unless the company is a VFR only operation. A straight IFR renewal is done by inspectors from Licensing whereas a PPC is done by the company's Principal Operations Inspector, who is Business and Commercial Aviation or like me, a Company Check Pilot. Slightly different criteria. An IFR renewal asks the question "Can he fly an airplane IFR, a PPC asks can he fly this particular make and model airplane in commercial air operations IFR competantly.
This is part and pacel of what the pay for trainong thing is all about. Are you preparing yourself for employment or are you prostituting yourself, because many pilot feel the hiring company should pay for the training. One thing I have done is when the company decideds to hire a low timer, I tell them to not go out and renew your IFR just so you can do the training because I will renew your IFR with the PPC. The only thing I have to watch out for is if the IFR has expired for more than two years. I have done two or three PPC's where the candidate, a company rampey, has an expired IFR. Doesn't matter to me. PPC and IFR, all for the price of one. All it means for the company(or candidate) is the $30:00 for the IFR renewal paperwork that TC does. TC charges $200:00 for a PPC and that gives one licensing action. Another $30:00 if you need a type rating. hope this helps.
This is part and pacel of what the pay for trainong thing is all about. Are you preparing yourself for employment or are you prostituting yourself, because many pilot feel the hiring company should pay for the training. One thing I have done is when the company decideds to hire a low timer, I tell them to not go out and renew your IFR just so you can do the training because I will renew your IFR with the PPC. The only thing I have to watch out for is if the IFR has expired for more than two years. I have done two or three PPC's where the candidate, a company rampey, has an expired IFR. Doesn't matter to me. PPC and IFR, all for the price of one. All it means for the company(or candidate) is the $30:00 for the IFR renewal paperwork that TC does. TC charges $200:00 for a PPC and that gives one licensing action. Another $30:00 if you need a type rating. hope this helps.
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