Nah. He just wants to argue his way out of the pandemic. All talk, no action. He's going to save us all by owning the libs on an aviation forum.Counterpoint wrote: ↑Tue Oct 05, 2021 11:51 am
But now I see you understand that post-vax is different than pre-vax, so you finally getting to the real stuff which will lead you to the trust required in following public health official’s.
It’s a moving target, right ?
Take the vaccine, or lose your job - WTF?
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Who cares about the site, the video embedded is legit with factual Pfizer scientists speaking (with their proper names and titles) to someone, who is a undercover report. Listen and watch to what Pfizer folks are saying...
But its too hard for you to swallow the pill.. Too much daily CBC/CNN fear mongering I guess did it for you.
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Okay, let's assume what they say is true. What are you going to do about it? You said earlier we should take to the streets. Is there an organized protest you suggest joining? Is there a cause you think we should donate money towards? Is there a politician you suggest endorsing?ikarus wrote: ↑Tue Oct 05, 2021 12:20 pmWho cares about the site, the video embedded is legit with factual Pfizer scientists speaking (with their proper names and titles) to someone, who is a undercover report. Listen and watch to what Pfizer folks are saying...
But its too hard for you to swallow the pill.. Too much daily CBC/CNN fear mongering I guess did it for you.
Re: Take the vaccine, or lose your job - WTF?
Check out down town Toronto... No media coverage, tons of people...
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Re: Take the vaccine, or lose your job - WTF?
Since the science keep changing. How much longer until air Canada considers two shots unvaccinated, and only people who have a third booster are vaccinated?
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Still no answers, eh? Just more grievances?
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I got an answer. They said the study that said there’s zero evidence to show closing ski hills stops covid spread, was evidence that ski hills should close to stop covid spread. They also claimed when people can’t ski they also don’t have a social life outside skiing so it’s basically impossible to spread covid when skiing is closed.
Since I can’t argue with stupid. Thought I would move on to other topics.
Here is counterpoints study to tell everyone ski hills were rightfully closed.
Since I can’t argue with stupid. Thought I would move on to other topics.
Here is counterpoints study to tell everyone ski hills were rightfully closed.

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EDIT: Yeah. We get it. Closing ski hills is bad, so we're moving on?
Okay. So how do we convince Air Canada management to maintain their current policy of two shot vaccination? What leverage do we have to prevent a change in the future? Will ACPA do that for us?
Okay. So how do we convince Air Canada management to maintain their current policy of two shot vaccination? What leverage do we have to prevent a change in the future? Will ACPA do that for us?
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People who realize that the probability of this being a load of crap is directly related to the other loads of crap posted on this cesspool of a site. In other words, people who are not idiots.
Re: Take the vaccine, or lose your job - WTF?
Montado----->
About skiing:
“It was not the activity of skiing that was the risk but all the things that go along with it,”
Same with Golfing:
“It was not the activity of golfing that was the risk but all the things that go along with it,”
Remember, at the beginning of this pandemic ski resorts where identified as major sources of spreading the infection in Europe! People would travel there, have fun, get infected and then bring back the new infection right into their country. But I think you are referring to those simple Canadian local ski slopes for local people with not much indoor activities. Not about those massive ski resorts.
So yes, in a way you are right it sounded very silly. But where do you draw the line? Will you have the time to figure out where to draw it? How will you implement it if you draw it? And each ski slope will be different...
Or you just put a blanket ban until things are sorted out (À la 737 Max)
About skiing:
“It was not the activity of skiing that was the risk but all the things that go along with it,”
Same with Golfing:
“It was not the activity of golfing that was the risk but all the things that go along with it,”
Remember, at the beginning of this pandemic ski resorts where identified as major sources of spreading the infection in Europe! People would travel there, have fun, get infected and then bring back the new infection right into their country. But I think you are referring to those simple Canadian local ski slopes for local people with not much indoor activities. Not about those massive ski resorts.
So yes, in a way you are right it sounded very silly. But where do you draw the line? Will you have the time to figure out where to draw it? How will you implement it if you draw it? And each ski slope will be different...
Or you just put a blanket ban until things are sorted out (À la 737 Max)
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Re: Take the vaccine, or lose your job - WTF?
Wednesday, 11am....JT will announce the Federal gov't policy
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Montano,
You’ve completely missed the point that was made.
It’s’ a moving target. The conclusion was made after the fact. Read the whole report. Your highlighted “at this point in time”, isn’t “at the time this was implemented”.
But you understand this right ?
You’ve completely missed the point that was made.
It’s’ a moving target. The conclusion was made after the fact. Read the whole report. Your highlighted “at this point in time”, isn’t “at the time this was implemented”.
But you understand this right ?
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He didn't miss it... he ignored it.Counterpoint wrote: ↑Tue Oct 05, 2021 7:07 pm Montano,
You’ve completely missed the point that was made.
It’s’ a moving target. The conclusion was made after the fact. Read the whole report. Your highlighted “at this point in time”, isn’t “at the time this was implemented”.
But you understand this right ?
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How many times have you attended these protests? Why do you feel they're not having an impact? If they are ineffective, then what should be done instead?
If no politicians embody your priorities, what recourse is left for you to change anything?
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Good thing BC didnt close down any ski hills. Went all winter. Thank God.TG wrote: ↑Tue Oct 05, 2021 6:13 pm Montado----->
About skiing:
“It was not the activity of skiing that was the risk but all the things that go along with it,”
Same with Golfing:
“It was not the activity of golfing that was the risk but all the things that go along with it,”
Remember, at the beginning of this pandemic ski resorts where identified as major sources of spreading the infection in Europe! People would travel there, have fun, get infected and then bring back the new infection right into their country. But I think you are referring to those simple Canadian local ski slopes for local people with not much indoor activities. Not about those massive ski resorts.
So yes, in a way you are right it sounded very silly. But where do you draw the line? Will you have the time to figure out where to draw it? How will you implement it if you draw it? And each ski slope will be different...
Or you just put a blanket ban until things are sorted out (À la 737 Max)
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The government has officially mandated all employers in the federally regulated transportation sector must establish a vaccination policy by October 30th:
https://www.canada.ca/en/transport-cana ... llers.html
https://www.canada.ca/en/transport-cana ... llers.html
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Jab and job or refuse and lose!737Maximilian wrote: ↑Wed Oct 06, 2021 10:57 am The government has officially mandated all employers in the federally regulated transportation sector must establish a vaccination policy by October 30th:
https://www.canada.ca/en/transport-cana ... llers.html
Re: Take the vaccine, or lose your job - WTF?
All of us vaxxed should be happy with the anti vaxxers out there! A whole bunch of sweet positions will be opening up soon. They can literally die on their hill or fly rubber dog poop out of Hong Kong.
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Bingo. AC's vaccine policy is already in place. Come October 30th, any employee not double-vaccinated will no long be able to continue working.
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Double vaccinated PLUS 2 weeks.737Maximilian wrote: ↑Wed Oct 06, 2021 11:50 amBingo. AC's vaccine policy is already in place. Come October 30th, any employee not double-vaccinated will no long be able to continue working.
It was over if you did not get shot by Sept 15.
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The federal definition of "fully vaccinated" is having completed the full vaccine course (Pfizer, Moderna, Astra Zeneca are two doses; Jennsen is one dose) plus having waited two weeks.rudder wrote: ↑Wed Oct 06, 2021 2:12 pmDouble vaccinated PLUS 2 weeks.737Maximilian wrote: ↑Wed Oct 06, 2021 11:50 amBingo. AC's vaccine policy is already in place. Come October 30th, any employee not double-vaccinated will no long be able to continue working.
It was over if you did not get shot by Sept 15.
You were correct enough in your statement, but this topic should have complete correctness.
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Spoke with a MLO today and asked about any future disruptions with any pilots exercising their freedom of choice. Bottom line, there were numerous calls and with some angry pilots that were “stomping their feet and banging their fist” but he mentioned the one thing is they can always count on the pilots to follow suit.
As a MLO he mentioned that 90% of the time he’s dealing with the same 10% of the pilots and the ones that called and were upset are the usual suspects. I was told it falls under the category of “A big bark coming out of little puppy dogs mouth!”
Everyone is going to remain employed with the odd pilot asking for a LOA.
As a MLO he mentioned that 90% of the time he’s dealing with the same 10% of the pilots and the ones that called and were upset are the usual suspects. I was told it falls under the category of “A big bark coming out of little puppy dogs mouth!”
Everyone is going to remain employed with the odd pilot asking for a LOA.
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Thx. You are correct.imjustlurking wrote: ↑Wed Oct 06, 2021 5:00 pmThe federal definition of "fully vaccinated" is having completed the full vaccine course (Pfizer, Moderna, Astra Zeneca are two doses; Jennsen is one dose) plus having waited two weeks.rudder wrote: ↑Wed Oct 06, 2021 2:12 pmDouble vaccinated PLUS 2 weeks.737Maximilian wrote: ↑Wed Oct 06, 2021 11:50 am
Bingo. AC's vaccine policy is already in place. Come October 30th, any employee not double-vaccinated will no long be able to continue working.
It was over if you did not get shot by Sept 15.
You were correct enough in your statement, but this topic should have complete correctness.
I was not sure that many Provincial Health Agencies were offering J&J availability.
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From what I can gather, Canadians were never offered the J&J COVID vaccine in Canada.
Edited for specificity.
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They weren't in Canada, but I know a number of people who got a j&j shot while traveling through the US as the we able to get it earlier that way.
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