Pilot Shortage

[Bug_Stomper_01]

Haha come on now. Seriously stop being so negative. This hyper inflation isn't going to happen. People will start travelling again as soon as they can. By spring 2022 airlines will be hiring like crazy again.

That’s a pipe dream.

[tsgarp]

Haha come on now. Seriously stop being so negative. This hyper inflation isn't going to happen. People will start travelling again as soon as they can. By spring 2022 airlines will be hiring like crazy again.

I hope you are right, but I suggest you hedge your bets and start learning Chinese.

[complexintentions]

Yeah my financial planner is moving my investments to lower risk on Monday.

Curious how that is defined.

hahah Yeah I had the same thought.

Most would take that to mean selling equities and going to cash, but that's FAR riskier in an inflationary environment.

Market timing is for suckers.

I've been enjoying the dip, but then I like sales.

[Launchpad1]

I hope you are right, but I suggest you hedge your bets and start learning Chinese.

I would actually like to be able to speak Mandarin, it sounds great as a language. With the way their economy is starting to look though I think I'll be ok sticking to English (and Japanese if I ever get round to learning it).

[TeePeeCreeper]

I hope you are right, but I suggest you hedge your bets and start learning Chinese.

Sure, just as soon as I learn how to speak Mexican.

[tsgarp]

I hope you are right, but I suggest you hedge your bets and start learning Chinese.

I would actually like to be able to speak Mandarin, it sounds great as a language. With the way their economy is starting to look though I think I'll be ok sticking to English (and Japanese if I ever get round to learning it).

Spoken Japanese is not to hard, written Japanese is a bit of a challenge. I always like the sound of German.

[schnitzel2k3]

I hope you are right, but I suggest you hedge your bets and start learning Chinese.

I would actually like to be able to speak Mandarin, it sounds great as a language. With the way their economy is starting to look though I think I'll be ok sticking to English (and Japanese if I ever get round to learning it).

Spoken Japanese is not to hard, written Japanese is a bit of a challenge. I always like the sound of German.

Kraftfahrzeug-Haftpflichtversicherung JA!

This place with our professional economy and market forecasters is more depressing than following COVID stats.

[PitchLink]

I would actually like to be able to speak Mandarin, it sounds great as a language. With the way their economy is starting to look though I think I'll be ok sticking to English (and Japanese if I ever get round to learning it).

Spoken Japanese is not to hard, written Japanese is a bit of a challenge. I always like the sound of German.

Kraftfahrzeug-Haftpflichtversicherung JA!

This place with our professional economy and market forecasters is more depressing than following COVID stats.

And we wonder why talent are dropping like flys

[co-joe]

I think the start of the shortage will happen again if a large group of pilots get canned over the vax mandate.

Has there ever been a time when a Canadian airline had more openings than applications ?

I hear 1972 was a good year. Pretty much shit since then.

[PitchLink]

I think the start of the shortage will happen again if a large group of pilots get canned over the vax mandate.

Has there ever been a time when a Canadian airline had more openings than applications ?

I hear 1972 was a good year. Pretty much shit since then.

Pretty much

[DadoBlade]

Pilot shortage? Sure, maybe, depends.. Globally? Locally? Seasonally? Sure, maybe..

Has there ever been a shortage of administrative staff? You know, the people who work Monday to Friday 8:00 to 17:00 and take every second Friday off and have a daily one (1) hour lunch break and four "fifteen minute coffee breaks? Never has there been a declared shortage of the clip-board carrying non-operational types. You know, the ones who interview you. HR types.

The question about a "Pilot shortage" is an on-going forum question IN EVERY AVIATION SITE in the world. Seldom is there a discussion about a "Pilot surplus" or an "Air Traffic Controller shortage" or never ever ever an "Air Traffic Controller surplus". You will never read a headline "Too many Air Traffic Controllers", yet Air Traffic Control administrative positions are always filled. Immediately. My wife was a 37-year career geriatric critical care nurse, terrible job, and there was always a crisis regarding staffing of qualified nurses on her ward. There was never ever a crisis regarding administrative staff. Never. The clip-board carrying Monday-to-Friday 8-to-5 positions are never wanting for staff. Funny that.

[‘Bob’]

It’s almost like people want to do easy jobs during good hours. I bet a lot of those clipboard types were former nurses, pilots, etc.

Pilot surplus? Haven’t you read the news in the last two years. They say layoffs and furloughs. If it’s grain it’s called a bumper crop. If it’s oil it’s called a glut. If it’s nuclear power it’s called a meltdown. Use the right terms.

[Rocinante]

As discussed, and oversimplified, with some crew while waiting for the phone to ring on medevac schedule:

All the 300hr wonders with "frozen" atpl's aren't upgradable, if they stayed, they'll be right seat lifers.
Mandatory retirements
Early retirements
Guys saying "screw this noise" to all the extra hassle or federal mandate coming into effect at the end of oct '21.

I'm not saying all of these will result in a SHORTAGE. I'm only suggesting it may result in a shortage (or short-staffing, not shortage like "the before (covid) times") of QUALIFIED / EXPERIENCED personnel - not just pilots.

Maybe I'm wrong, maybe I'm not, maybe I'm just looking at it through rose coloured glasses, since I've been working this entire time.