Hi all,
Can’t seem to find an answer on how to properly log PICUS in my logbook. I’m an FO @ a 705 carrier with a PICUS program in place, and I’m in the process of just finishing my hours. How do I properly log PICUS in my logbook? For example, if I fly 7.0 hours total on a given day, do I log half as co-pilot (3.5) and the other half as PIC in my logbook? Or all as copilot in my logbook, make a remark it was PICUS, but fill it out as PICUS on the form I get from my company to give to TC.
Any feedback is much appreciated.
Recording PICUS in your logbook
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Re: Recording PICUS in your logbook
The later.
PICUS is not PIC, so it does not go in the PIC column. You can either make a remark in the comments section that it was PICUS or you can use one of the spare columns. You'll also follow whatever company procedures are in place. If they use a form, fill that out too.
A couple of things to remember:
1) PICUS must be logged within the 12 months preceding the date of your application (Ref CAR 421.11(5)(b)), so before you go sending in your license application, quadruple check that you don't have hours dropping off the back end, otherwise your application may be rejected.
2) You have to log not only the number of hours but also the number of takeoffs and landings (421.11(6)(a)). This is your responsibility whether your company has it on their form or not, so make sure you can account for your sectors. I won't speak for TC, but some inspectors have hills they are willing to die on, and I can see this being one of those.
3) You can only credit half the time you fly towards the requirements up to 100 hours, so if you fly 7 hours, you're only crediting yourself with 3.5 towards PICUS (another reason why you should use another column or a separate sheet). Make sure to quadruple-check that you're dividing your time in half. I remember one or two guys back in the day sent in their application only to find they were short because they had been logging 100% of the time (421.11(5)(a)).
PICUS is not PIC, so it does not go in the PIC column. You can either make a remark in the comments section that it was PICUS or you can use one of the spare columns. You'll also follow whatever company procedures are in place. If they use a form, fill that out too.
A couple of things to remember:
1) PICUS must be logged within the 12 months preceding the date of your application (Ref CAR 421.11(5)(b)), so before you go sending in your license application, quadruple check that you don't have hours dropping off the back end, otherwise your application may be rejected.
2) You have to log not only the number of hours but also the number of takeoffs and landings (421.11(6)(a)). This is your responsibility whether your company has it on their form or not, so make sure you can account for your sectors. I won't speak for TC, but some inspectors have hills they are willing to die on, and I can see this being one of those.
3) You can only credit half the time you fly towards the requirements up to 100 hours, so if you fly 7 hours, you're only crediting yourself with 3.5 towards PICUS (another reason why you should use another column or a separate sheet). Make sure to quadruple-check that you're dividing your time in half. I remember one or two guys back in the day sent in their application only to find they were short because they had been logging 100% of the time (421.11(5)(a)).
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Re: Recording PICUS in your logbook
DirtyDashDriver wrote: ↑Sun Oct 24, 2021 9:14 pm The later.
PICUS is not PIC, so it does not go in the PIC column. You can either make a remark in the comments section that it was PICUS or you can use one of the spare columns. You'll also follow whatever company procedures are in place. If they use a form, fill that out too.
A couple of things to remember:
1) PICUS must be logged within the 12 months preceding the date of your application (Ref CAR 421.11(5)(b)), so before you go sending in your license application, quadruple check that you don't have hours dropping off the back end, otherwise your application may be rejected.
2) You have to log not only the number of hours but also the number of takeoffs and landings (421.11(6)(a)). This is your responsibility whether your company has it on their form or not, so make sure you can account for your sectors. I won't speak for TC, but some inspectors have hills they are willing to die on, and I can see this being one of those.
3) You can only credit half the time you fly towards the requirements up to 100 hours, so if you fly 7 hours, you're only crediting yourself with 3.5 towards PICUS (another reason why you should use another column or a separate sheet). Make sure to quadruple-check that you're dividing your time in half. I remember one or two guys back in the day sent in their application only to find they were short because they had been logging 100% of the time (421.11(5)(a)).
Thanks for your quick and detailed reply. The time line won’t be an issue, as I have only started PICUS a few months ago and it will soon be complete, then the application will be submitted.
