Anybody know whats going on with ACE and CJ

astrojet · Post by **astrojet** » Sun Sep 11, 2005 4:41 pm

anybody have and news on this .. Hear some talks are going on ,but not sure with what .

Standinemup · Post by **Standinemup** » Sun Sep 11, 2005 5:05 pm

ACE + Cargo Jet = All Cargo Jet Express.

gelbisch · Post by **gelbisch** » Sun Sep 11, 2005 10:06 pm

That won't work. ACJE? Sounds like an affliction plaguing thousands of pubescent youths.

arewethereyet · Post by **arewethereyet** » Tue Sep 13, 2005 1:33 pm

Cargodawg is going to be furious. Maybe he can fly the big bird for his pal Murray again. They will all be fighting to go to Cuba this winter!!!

teacher · Post by **teacher** » Tue Sep 13, 2005 2:38 pm

MMMMMMMMMMM There's nothing like a cold Bucanero or Cuba Libre by the pool in Havana during a cold Canadian winter.

"Yes dear, we've been working like mad!!!"

arewethereyet · Post by **arewethereyet** » Tue Sep 13, 2005 4:04 pm

yes in deed!!!!!! a cold one on santa maria beach. mmm mmm mmm,

but the food sucks! cant say id trade cuba to fly night cargo across canada.

aero-singidunum · Post by **aero-singidunum** » Wed Oct 26, 2005 8:23 pm

ACE 2 B727 (ACK and ACR) are going to Cargojet. ACE will leave Cuba run, loosing money, do to pilot drinking too much in Havana

ACE is getting DC-10 soon and will do Europe run.

Give this another week and you will see that

teacher · Post by **teacher** » Wed Oct 26, 2005 8:28 pm

Wow, now that's one hell of a monkey wrench!!! I will eagerly wait a week.

bigcanuck · Post by **bigcanuck** » Thu Oct 27, 2005 9:57 am

The fact that Cargodawg is not poo pooing any of these thoughts makes me wonder.

whipline · Post by **whipline** » Thu Oct 27, 2005 11:14 am

I believe ACE is in receivership yet again and there is a lot of work to do before any DC-10 shows up on the ramp.

Cargodog · Post by **Cargodog** » Thu Oct 27, 2005 11:33 am

It's been more fun watching this one brew.

All I'll say is this...

Regarding the DC10, might want to have a look:

http://www.airliners.net/search/photo.s ... entry=true

Correct s/n on the aircraft (46541). Left GYR for Uganda (DAS is Uganda based) on July 9th. Here's the movement report:

Jul09,05 Finova Capital Corp Douglas DC-10 N541SA 46541 Field All Canada c/s-n/t; ex-C-FACX; stored-departed GYR-PHX-LFTW-7/16/05-exported to Uganda 7/20/05

That's about the best I can help you guys on this one...

whipline · Post by **whipline** » Thu Oct 27, 2005 12:18 pm

That airplane is long gone and not coming back!!

Flywest · Post by **Flywest** » Thu Oct 27, 2005 3:53 pm

Yep she's gone.

Too bad, it was a pretty lookin' thing.

195psi · Post by **195psi** » Thu Oct 27, 2005 6:55 pm

Anyone know what the real story is. I've heard from one source they lost their OC and another told me that on this mornings BAX run the crews knew they would not be back. Anyone know for sure what happend?

Fr8 dawg · Post by **Fr8 dawg** » Thu Oct 27, 2005 8:45 pm

UNION BUSTING, that´s what happened.

qwert · Post by **qwert** » Sat Oct 29, 2005 1:13 pm

TOTAL UNION BUSTING, but they cant hide behind the corporate vail. Company sucked and still sucks. As of now they are done like DISCO...those 27's were fuckin garbage anyways.

qwert · Post by **qwert** » Sat Oct 29, 2005 1:15 pm

oh ya, good move with the CAW union dumb asses

thorvald · Post by **thorvald** » Wed Nov 09, 2005 9:28 am

Lay-off slips are being sent today. . .
This bitch's belly is up !

Nice work, boys, nice work. :smt073

loopy · Post by **loopy** » Wed Nov 09, 2005 10:48 am

I don't think this was the union's fault. I think mismagement and the ownership's paranoia of a union shop killed the good thing they had going.

whipline · Post by **whipline** » Wed Nov 09, 2005 8:47 pm

Or maybe the fact they tried to start a DC-10 operation with duo-tang and transport laughed, mean while they were paying 250,000 a month for the thing to sit on a ramp.

I'd like to know how ACE accomplished the Newark to Bermuda flight with just one crew all week long. Last time I checked 3 days of 12 hr duties equals 24 hrs off. I think ACE skirted a lot of rules and made a lot of promises to a lot of people and those unfortunate people who believed in the lies are now on the street. Hopefully they will all find a good home soon with a company that respects them.

boeingboy · Post by **boeingboy** » Thu Nov 10, 2005 11:22 am

What exactly happened with that DC-10? (I mean operationally not who operates it now)

Aside from the fact that it was the wrong airplane for so many reasons, and the fact that ACE had no idea what they were getting into as far as getting it certified. This was definitly the company killer - at least financially.

Eventually they did get it certified, painted, and registered. So - why did it never do any runs for them? Did their contract up and walk?

metal overcast · Post by **metal overcast** » Thu Nov 10, 2005 12:10 pm

I am curious..........
Why did they have to get it certified in Canada. Canadian Airlines/ Wardair
used the DC-10. Was it because it was a freighter?

Cargodog · Post by **Cargodog** » Thu Nov 10, 2005 12:21 pm

The freighter version was not previously type certified in Canada... The -30 pax version received it's TC in 1979.

Go down below, follow the link, then open the PDF and go down to page 6. There you will see confirmation that the -30F was approved March 14th 2005.

http://www.tc.gc.ca/aviation/applicatio ... num=050033

Anybody know whats going on with ACE and CJ

Anybody know whats going on with ACE and CJ

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