Air Tindi

[sunk]

Any word on what happened and the damage. All passengers are okay.

[CL-Skadoo!]

I'll just throw in a link for those scratching their heads at that post.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/north/ai ... -1.6233619

[sunk]

Rumour is to much air in the tanks.

[pelmet]

Rumour is to much air in the tanks.

The president of the company told CBC News that there was a mechanical issue with an engine.

[Donald]

The president of the company told CBC News that there was a mechanical issue with an engine.

And the AC media releases called the YHZ airbus crash a "hard landing".

What's your point?

[Frozenwhirlybird]

Rumour is to much air in the tanks.

The president of the company told CBC News that there was a mechanical issue with an engine.

That was last night. He has now told a local media outlet they departed without sufficient fuel on board.

[godsrcrazy]

Everything today says fuel shortage. I have never heard of a Twin Otter that can't fly on one engine unless it is Grossly overloaded or Iced up. So i think the loosing One engine speculation is out.

Either way this is not going to be good for Air Tindi Considering these findings 1 year ago. If they don't have their O/C suspended it will shock me.
https://www.nnsl.com/yellowknifer/pilot ... obe-finds/

[Frozenwhirlybird]

Everything today says fuel shortage. I have never heard of a Twin Otter that can't fly on one engine unless it is Grossly overloaded or Iced up. So i think the loosing One engine speculation is out.

Either way this is not going to be good for Air Tindi Considering these findings 1 year ago. If they don't have their O/C suspended it will shock me.
https://www.nnsl.com/yellowknifer/pilot ... obe-finds/

New president since that accident occurred, same old company problems.

[pelmet]

The president of the company told CBC News that there was a mechanical issue with an engine.

And the AC media releases called the YHZ airbus crash a "hard landing".

What's your point?

My point that the president stated that it was a mechanical engine issue. I highlighted that for a specific reason strictly after reading a post suggesting fuel exhaustion……..

…..that specific reason is to wait until confirmation comes out to see if the president of the company is giving factual information or someone on here is wildly speculating. It could be either way based on past events and will be interesting to follow. If the president of the company turns out to be misleading, it will have been highlighted in this thread.

We shall see reasonably soon.

[RockSalty]

https://www.therecord.com/ts/news/canad ... nding.html

Dunno how legit "The Record" is but if that really is the case I sure wouldn't wanna be in that crews shoes right now

[godsrcrazy]

https://www.therecord.com/ts/news/canad ... nding.html

Dunno how legit "The Record" is but if that really is the case I sure wouldn't wanna be in that crews shoes right now

Pretty much every news article says the same as The Record. I would suggest its legit. Especially when they all claim the "President" says the aircraft departed with insufficient fuel. Could only imagine what that lawsuit would look like if the President didn't' say that.

[sunk]

A repeat of the Keewatin king air accident in Gillam. That was no fuel as well.

[Redneck_pilot86]

What an absolutely moronic way to crash an airplane.

[Invertago]

Standing by for a new TC mandated nation wide training program highlighting the importance of not running out of gas...

[cncpc]

The president of the company told CBC News that there was a mechanical issue with an engine.

And the AC media releases called the YHZ airbus crash a "hard landing".

What's your point?

His point is made in response to someone mumbling about "...air in tanks" which is what you say when you're too cowardly to accuse another pilot of fuel mismanagement. He offered a different view from the president of Air Tindi.

That was his point. I had no difficulty understanding it. What's your point?

[Mick G]

They used to be so much better years ago...so sad

[cncpc]

Where exactly did it land? On the highway? Are the lakes frozen up there yet?

[Frozenwhirlybird]

Where exactly did it land? On the highway? Are the lakes frozen up there yet?

Out in the sticks 10k from a small town. Rumour is it’s in one piece and upright. There aren’t typically cleared areas out there to land - rock and small trees, some grassy swamp areas.

[Donald]

The president of the company told CBC News that there was a mechanical issue with an engine.

And the AC media releases called the YHZ airbus crash a "hard landing".

What's your point?

His point is made in response to someone mumbling about "...air in tanks" which is what you say when you're too cowardly to accuse another pilot of fuel mismanagement. He offered a different view from the president of Air Tindi.

That was his point. I had no difficulty understanding it. What's your point?

The person "mumbling" was in response to the previously quoted news article, which contained the presidents quote. I wouldn't say it was cowardly, they simply provided an alternative explanation from "a mechanical issue", phrased as a rumor since the official stance was otherwise. Pelmet was just regurgitating what we all read already.

And my point is, in the immediate aftermath of an incident, what do you expect any media release to say? PR 101 is minimize minimize minimize, ie "hard landing".

[pelmet]

And the AC media releases called the YHZ airbus crash a "hard landing".

What's your point?

His point is made in response to someone mumbling about "...air in tanks" which is what you say when you're too cowardly to accuse another pilot of fuel mismanagement. He offered a different view from the president of Air Tindi.

That was his point. I had no difficulty understanding it. What's your point?

Pelmet was just regurgitating what we all read already.

And my point is, in the immediate aftermath of an incident, what do you expect any media release to say? PR 101 is minimize minimize minimize, ie "hard landing".

My intent was to expose this possibility or other possibilities more clearly on this thread which is why I quoted what the president said(or regurgitated using your terminology).

That’s the point. Sorry if it wasn’t apparent to you.

[sunk]

His point is made in response to someone mumbling about "...air in tanks" which is what you say when you're too cowardly to accuse another pilot of fuel mismanagement. He offered a different view from the president of Air Tindi.

I’m am not a coward, I said it was rumoured to be lack of fuel. Now that is fact, yes they were idiots to depart with insufficient fuel.

[digits_]

How accurate are the fuel gauges in a twin otter?

Is there a reliable way to dip the tanks?

[Donald]

How accurate are the fuel gauges in a twin otter?

Is there a reliable way to dip the tanks?

They didn't even make it 1/2 way.

Unless the guages were grossly lying, this has nothing to do with them.

[LurkingRaven]

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[imjustlurking]

His point is made in response to someone mumbling about "...air in tanks" which is what you say when you're too cowardly to accuse another pilot of fuel mismanagement. He offered a different view from the president of Air Tindi.

I’m am not a coward, I said it was rumoured to be lack of fuel. Now that is fact, yes they were idiots to depart with insufficient fuel.

I'm sure it's easy to say that in hindsight, but I highly doubt that anyone would knowingly leave without enough fuel to complete a trip.