What does Air Canada want to see on a resume

[Canadaflyer46]

I know hiring is not for a while so don’t attack. For the future does AC hire without PIC time?

Better have an aviation diploma/degree if you're an OTS applicant. To have a chance to compete for that 10% of OTS spots. Much more emphasis given to that that the logbook. 705 PIC time helps, but there always seems to be a few corporate/military people in their latest ground schools.

[bcflyer]

I know hiring is not for a while so don’t attack. For the future does AC hire without PIC time?

I don’t know about hiring but I do know this. When it comes time to upgrade at an airline, previous PIC time will make the process much easier. Having the experience of making the decisions and being the one responsible is invaluable when it’s your turn to move to the left seat.
Just my two cents of course!

[Dashdriver88]

Thanks everyone.

[Rooster69]

I know hiring is not for a while so don’t attack. For the future does AC hire without PIC time?

You need 2000 hours and an ATPL

Not all need an ATPL.

[charlo]

been applying for the last 5 years before the pandemic, FO 330/737 at ts, some twin otter pic, not much but anyway never got a call and probably never will. If you're not at jazz good luck, having a degree, aviation college or military flying will help a lot. If you're a girl or a minority that will also help !

[altiplano]

I know hiring is not for a while so don’t attack. For the future does AC hire without PIC time?

You need 2000 hours and an ATPL

Not all need an ATPL.

You need an ATPL.

Job Requirements

2000 hours of fixed wing flying time

Completion of schooling to the university entrance level

Ability to pass the Air Canada and Transport Canada medical and visual acuity requirements for a Category 1 medical certificate

Canadian Airline Transport Pilot Licence (ATPL), current Group 1 (Multi-engine) Instrument Rating

Canadian citizenship or landed immigrant status

[Rooster69]

I know of one who didn’t have an ATPL.

[Kaykay]

I know of one who didn’t have an ATPL.

I second what altiplano said; you need one. Even if your mystery friend didn’t, those days are long over now.

[co-joe]

I would say that the top skills AC wants, in roughly this order are; Being of a specific ethnic group, having a specific chromosome group (XX), having military flying experience, having an ATPL, having a university degree, having an aviation college diploma, speaking french, having a short resume that's a very straight line (flight school, tier 3 connector, tier 2 connector, and them), and then hours.

And there's a few thousand exceptions to this, everybody know a guy who didn't have any of these and got on.

[hamstandard]

been applying for the last 5 years before the pandemic, FO 330/737 at ts, some twin otter pic, not much but anyway never got a call and probably never will. If you're a girl or a minority that will also help !

Probably true.

Who wants to bet that this is a future AC pilot right here that will talk about a lesson learned to ensure that the pre-filled boxes remain filled. A minor crash or two also helps with life-lessons learned.

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/world/th ... d=msedgntp

The Student Pilot Who Was Seen Vaping On The Sunwing Party Plane Just Issued An Apology

[lownslow]

If you're a girl or a minority that will also help !

A minor crash or two also helps with life-lessons learned.

Remember, kids: when things don’t go your way, always make sure it’s someone else’s fault. Saves the trouble of learning something from it.

[FL030]

I don't think it's been mentioned yet in this thread but I believe a large block of PIC time over 12500lbs was instrumental in my being invited for an interview. I'm not sure how much it helps in getting hired, but for the algorithm that gets your foot in the door to talk to them I believe it was crucial in my case.

[DanWEC]

This is purely andecdotal, and I don't work for AC but have many friends from different paths that have been hired over the last 10 years. Everyone I can think of off the top of my head was in a current command position, everything from a BE10, Q, RJ, E175, etc, but all left seat.
I know that at Sky, you generally weren't considered for flow until you upgraded, even if only for a month.

So I'd say that's pretty important unless it's just coincidence from the guys I know.

[NotDirty!]

Well to put your conspiracy theories to the test, my PIT course 4 years ago (over 30 in the class) consisted of 2 females, about 5 visible minorities, and 4 francophones. A look through the other new hire groups over the past umpteen years, the majority are white male anglophones.

While previously a lot of emphasis for OTS hired was placed on post secondary, I believe current management has other priorities, or at least will once all the furloughs finally get recalled.

Everything mentioned in this thread is good to have, and the weighting of each of the categories may get reassessed from time to time. I don’t think anyone has ever been turned down for having too much PIC time!

Unfortunately we never know why certain people don’t get hired. Maybe the others interviewing the same day were just so good that your interview, which on any other day would have been “good” gets assessed as “weak”… I know the interviewers are supposed to compare you to the “standard” and not to other applicants, but I also know that human nature makes that difficult.

They do seem to look highly on people interviewing for the second or third time! So if you don’t/didn’t get hired the first time, reapply when you’re allowed to.

Full disclosure: I interviewed in May 2012, and got PFO’d in July 2012…. Meanwhile people I worked with, some with less experience, less education, etc. than I did got hired. I was a little disappointed, but I continued to improve my resume over the next 4.5 years. Reapplied in 2017, and got the job offer in Dec 2017.

[altiplano]

Command on large aircraft absolutely is a thing that scores with them IIRC they used to have a breakdown for it on their web application. Not sure now...

[Tdicommuter]

Do yourself a favor and go to WestJet instead.

The reason I say that is quality of life counts for something. At Air Canada we do not seem to place value on that in any regard. For example your first year at Air Canada you have zero vacation. After working a full year you get 2 weeks plus 9 stat days ( there are more federal days but we don't get them). To use them one would assume it actually reduces your flying but alas it does not really. Take one week vacation in a month and you will still work at least 10 days. For some reason we have only given a vacation day credit at 2.55 hours credit. Take ten days and you get 25.5 hours of pay... So if it's a busy month you might still work 12 days. At WestJet a day vacation is worth a day off your month. You also get 6 week's vacation at WestJet on day one. When you put a price on the additional week's work over your career at AC, versus WestJet you are missing a big amount of cash at AC.

Next pension.
WestJet will give you 20 percent contribution into your RRSP, TFSA, or non registered savings account. So the compounding interest on the higher company contribution over your 30 year career is worth more than making 350k as a 777 captain for your last five years. Also at AC we got stuck with a CWIP plan which means i pay into it like a DC plan, but I get penalized for leaving before 60, and if I die I don't get all my money. At WestJet if you have enough saved and want to retire at 52... Fill your boots.

Our working conditions, and quality of life do not justify coming to AC.

[a220hereicome]

…and if I die I don't get all my money.

Sorry to break it to you, but if you die you don’t get any of your money. One of the many downsides of dying.

Ever seen a U-Haul behind a hearse?

[RVR6000]

been applying for the last 5 years before the pandemic, FO 330/737 at ts, some twin otter pic, not much but anyway never got a call and probably never will.

That is odd… given you work for Transat you’re probably a francophone. So you meet pretty much all their requirements.

Did you only complete High School? And no college or Uni.

Either your resume is poorly written, or being only a high school grad is holding you back.

[RVR6000]

Well to put your conspiracy theories to the test, my PIT course 4 years ago (over 30 in the class) consisted of 2 females, about 5 visible minorities, and 4 francophones. A look through the other new hire groups over the past umpteen years, the majority are white male anglophones.

Very true, to say AC caters to minorities, females, and Francophones is a weak argument. Just look at the overall pilot group, vast majority is white male anglophones.

[rudder]

If you want the best odds of getting hired at AC in the next few years, then what you need on your resume is “I work at Jazz”. If you do not have this on your resume, then you are completing with all of the other OTS applicants for the non-Jazz quota hiring spots.

This is not an endorsement for Jazz. Just a reality.

Having said that, Jazz applicants must meet whatever the AC published minimum experience requirements are. Many do not. Perhaps that will result in more AC OTS hiring.

[Dias]

There's nothing you can do about the Jazz deal. I'd be worried about all the former ex-pat widebody pilots from Cathay, etc., that are desperate to come home to Canada. Those will be your competition.

[hamstandard]

Well to put your conspiracy theories to the test, my PIT course 4 years ago (over 30 in the class) consisted of 2 females, about 5 visible minorities, and 4 francophones. A look through the other new hire groups over the past umpteen years, the majority are white male anglophones.

Very true, to say AC caters to minorities, females, and Francophones is a weak argument. Just look at the overall pilot group, vast majority is white male anglophones.

That is based on the reality that the vast majority of people who freely decided to pursue a career as an airline pilot fit that demographic.

As you can see here, major airlines have specific hiring policies to try and go around that:

https://www.flightglobal.com/strategy/u ... ?adredir=1

Perhaps that is why I have heard more than one say that specifically because of policies like this, they have started their own quiet, small method of doing the exact opposite for retribution of how they are negatively affected, while in the past they were very specific about equal treatment.

[columbia]

been applying for the last 5 years before the pandemic, FO 330/737 at ts, some twin otter pic, not much but anyway never got a call and probably never will. If you're not at jazz good luck, having a degree, aviation college or military flying will help a lot. If you're a girl or a minority that will also help !

It's kinda risky for ts pilots to apply now. Who knows what will happen in the next 5-10 years, AC could try again to take TRZ over again. Made sens before, will make sens again after covid. Anybody higher than 2 years at TRZ could see a big drop in seniority if , IF this happens.. Not saying it will, but there's always a possibility.

[jpilot77]

been applying for the last 5 years before the pandemic, FO 330/737 at ts, some twin otter pic, not much but anyway never got a call and probably never will. If you're not at jazz good luck, having a degree, aviation college or military flying will help a lot. If you're a girl or a minority that will also help !

It's kinda risky for ts pilots to apply now. Who knows what will happen in the next 5-10 years, AC could try again to take TRZ over again. Made sens before, will make sens again after covid. Anybody higher than 2 years at TRZ could see a big drop in seniority if , IF this happens.. Not saying it will, but there's always a possibility.

What the feds and EASA were asking AC to give up in terms of slots I don’t think AC will be buying Transat going forward.

[Latitude]

been applying for the last 5 years before the pandemic, FO 330/737 at ts, some twin otter pic, not much but anyway never got a call and probably never will. If you're not at jazz good luck, having a degree, aviation college or military flying will help a lot. If you're a girl or a minority that will also help !

It's kinda risky for ts pilots to apply now. Who knows what will happen in the next 5-10 years, AC could try again to take TRZ over again. Made sens before, will make sens again after covid. Anybody higher than 2 years at TRZ could see a big drop in seniority if , IF this happens.. Not saying it will, but there's always a possibility.

What the feds and EASA were asking AC to give up in terms of slots I don’t think AC will be buying Transat going forward.

If it didn’t happen during the pandemic it’s never going to happen outside it, when both airlines can survive on their own, simply because of ‘’ competition ‘’