AME job alternatives..?

[AoA2021]

Hi to all,

What are the best job options for a recently graduated aircraft mechanic that would allow me to get a decent pay to take care of my family?

Thanks!

[YYCAME]

You could check out wind turbines if you don't mind living somewhere rural, which usually means cheaper cost of living as well. There are other trades like elevator maintenance where your training might help you get a start as well.

[Bede]

Heavy equipment mechanic, boat mechanic.

[PitchLink]

Heavy Equipment! It’s done me well, depending on where you are the opportunities are growing unlike aviation. Check out dealerships and consult your local Trades board for equivalency evaluation of your schooling. Get an apprenticeship before you apply for the equivalency. Also are you licenced? You said recently graduated mechanic, don’t know if you mean you wrote your regs exam with a full logbook or you just completed school.

[Bug_Stomper_01]

Hi to all,

What are the best job options for a recently graduated aircraft mechanic that would allow me to get a decent pay to take care of my family?

Thanks!

Stationary turbine work. Try solar turbines, maybe get your stationary engineering certs. 4th and 3rd class. Either will make you more money than this garbage industry pays.

[Heliian]

Nothing when you have no experience and no license. What are you looking for here?

There is no magic job that pays 100k a year starting out with absolutely no skills. Definitely shouldn't get into aviation if you're that confused about how to work and make money.

[Bug_Stomper_01]

Nothing when you have no experience and no license. What are you looking for here?

There is no magic job that pays 100k a year starting out with absolutely no skills. Definitely shouldn't get into aviation if you're that confused about how to work and make money.

He will have a better starting point in trades outside of this AME crap. I don’t know if he means recently graduated from college or “graduated” the cars exam lol.
Either way his training is worth something, and not “nothing when you have no experience and no license”? You sure do like devaluating everyone’s worth that’s low time, A very x theory management view, which you likely wouldn’t understand.
Initial training in any industry (including this one) is valuable. I know guys I went to college with that went right into industrial turbine maintenance out of college and never looked back. Others into heavy duty and were accredited 2 of the four years apprenticeship with their trade equivalency assessments. Several went into TC energy, Some went into marine (ship) engine maintenance on big steam turbine stuff for TC, some became machinists and fabricators which again were accredited time and experience towards their license, I can go on. They ALL make a far cry from $20/hr to start, which apprentices in the helicopter world rarely do.
Your assertion that There’s no better options out there for him are patently false, and this “nothing when you have no experience and no license” is a bald, ignorant statement.

He’s definitely not “ confused about how to work and make money”, he just likely sees his time as valuable and wants more return from it as a hard working employee, it’s an investment for him and anyone he works for.

[all_ramped_up]

^ This.

I am real close to both my M1 and M2, which with my Industry experience has had me during the Pandemic maintaining machines in a Brewery and even seeing to the maintenance of a Gondola at a Ski Hill.

Heck, even Reliability Engineer at the Michelin plants is a position that is well paid and easily covered by AME training. Any sort of Mechanical trade has the basics covered during our schooling.

[PitchLink]

Nothing when you have no experience and no license. What are you looking for here?

There is no magic job that pays 100k a year starting out with absolutely no skills. Definitely shouldn't get into aviation if you're that confused about how to work and make money.

Good god! He didn’t mention anything to which you’re referring. At least you didn’t mention “the dole” this time, which is always YOUR only alternative to low time guys. I can’t believe people like you still exist in this industry.
He asked a legitimate question, and you got a comprehensive response from others so far. I really hope you’re not in management or an owner or an employer, but I’m pretty sure you are……

[Crossthreaded]

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[Bug_Stomper_01]

^ This.

I am real close to both my M1 and M2, which with my Industry experience has had me during the Pandemic maintaining machines in a Brewery and even seeing to the maintenance of a Gondola at a Ski Hill.

Heck, even Reliability Engineer at the Michelin plants is a position that is well paid and easily covered by AME training. Any sort of Mechanical trade has the basics covered during our schooling.

People need to know the truth. I’m sick and tired of Canadas diseased mentality regarding this trade. The word is out it’s just not loud enough yet

[Wonderdog]

As a Canadian AME for 27 years, with 4000 hrs. airtime, worldwide, I could not imagine a better
skill set to assist you through life.
It gets a bit rough some days, but so does walking 50 miles.
Remote camp work in Canada, pays as much as a Canadian AME. So,
you can fix the aircraft on site, and also get paid manning camp.
Good luck, it's gas...

[Bug_Stomper_01]

Heavy equipment mechanic, boat mechanic.

Both are good trades, I’ve actually done both of those and still active in one. There’s a marina near my home town hiring in unlicensed marine mechanics with considerations from other similar trades (AME being one cited often). $45/hr all day long to start plus factory training plus sign on bonus’ and as little or as much overtime as you want. Great benefits and employer RSP matching.

[Bug_Stomper_01]

As a Canadian AME for 27 years, with 4000 hrs. airtime, worldwide, I could not imagine a better
skill set to assist you through life.
It gets a bit rough some days, but so does walking 50 miles.
Remote camp work in Canada, pays as much as a Canadian AME. So,
you can fix the aircraft on site, and also get paid manning camp.
Good luck, it's gas...

I don’t understand any of that. You walk 50 miles?

[chowda]

Heli Ian is one of the old aerosexuals who still can't think outside the "for the passion" aviation mindset that's infected maintenance in Canada for so long. He see's aviation as the only path if you went to school for it. Like a sentence, if you will.


To the OP - find something, almost anything that keeps you from having to earn your income working on airplanes. Been doing it for 22 years and I am finally pulling the pin. The Covid BS was a blessing in disguise and a needed kick to the ass.

Aviation, particularly maintenance, blows. I would not ever do it again nor would I recommend it to anyone.

[Wonderdog]

Well said chowda.

SMcL.
M315881

[Bug_Stomper_01]

Heli Ian is one the old aerosexuals who still can't think outside the "for the passion" aviation mindset that's infected maintenance in Canada for so long. He see's aviation as the only path if you went to school for it.


To the OP - find something, almost anything that keeps you from having to earn your income working on airplanes. Been doing it for 22 years and I am finally pulling the pin. The Covid BS was a blessing in disguise and a needed kick to the ass.

Aviation, particularly maintenance, blows. I would not ever do it again nor would I recommend it to anyone.

It’s bad, I have another career outside this garbage which pays my primary income, but I still keep my rate high. Helicopters are as bad or worse than fixed wing in Canada right now. Heliian has a long record for being aero/helisexual not just on here but vertical as well (if that’s the same person). An attitude like that is the kind spawned from someone with no kids and probably a spouse that makes the bread. ZERO time for people like that

[PitchLink]

Heli Ian is one the old aerosexuals who still can't think outside the "for the passion" aviation mindset that's infected maintenance in Canada for so long. He see's aviation as the only path if you went to school for it.


To the OP - find something, almost anything that keeps you from having to earn your income working on airplanes. Been doing it for 22 years and I am finally pulling the pin. The Covid BS was a blessing in disguise and a needed kick to the ass.

Aviation, particularly maintenance, blows. I would not ever do it again nor would I recommend it to anyone.

It’s true……

[chowda]

Heli Ian is one the old aerosexuals who still can't think outside the "for the passion" aviation mindset that's infected maintenance in Canada for so long. He see's aviation as the only path if you went to school for it.


To the OP - find something, almost anything that keeps you from having to earn your income working on airplanes. Been doing it for 22 years and I am finally pulling the pin. The Covid BS was a blessing in disguise and a needed kick to the ass.

Aviation, particularly maintenance, blows. I would not ever do it again nor would I recommend it to anyone.

It’s bad, I have another career outside this garbage which pays my primary income, but I still keep my rate high. Helicopters are as bad or worse than fixed wing in Canada right now. Heliian has a long record for being aero/helisexual not just on here but vertical as well (if that’s the same person). An attitude like that is the kind spawned from someone with no kids and probably a spouse that makes the bread. ZERO time for people like that

Im doing the same. I renewed my license, albeit because it was so easy and the fact there's no way in hell I'd go through TC's BS if I let it expire, and wanted to renew it. Just no interest.

Been getting some cold emails for work but the last three I haven't even replied. The offers/work conditions just suck and Im just not into it any more. The right price, maybe, but working by myself outside, at night, with some shithead manager squeezing you into grey/black areas because they cant say "no" in meetings, well....I've had enough. They always will want more and you'll be the instant asshole the moment you decide not to roll with them.

It's happened way too many times and no doubt will continue.

Im not sure if I'd even be employable in this field anymore because my mindset/tolerance has completely changed.

Im a multi endorsed m1/m2 with management experience.

[dstechnical]

If I had to do a trade all over again. Instrumentation tech. Highest paid trade out there .

[Heliian]

Heli Ian is one the old aerosexuals who still can't think outside the "for the passion" aviation mindset that's infected maintenance in Canada for so long. He see's aviation as the only path if you went to school for it.


To the OP - find something, almost anything that keeps you from having to earn your income working on airplanes. Been doing it for 22 years and I am finally pulling the pin. The Covid BS was a blessing in disguise and a needed kick to the ass.

Aviation, particularly maintenance, blows. I would not ever do it again nor would I recommend it to anyone.

It’s bad, I have another career outside this garbage which pays my primary income, but I still keep my rate high. Helicopters are as bad or worse than fixed wing in Canada right now. Heliian has a long record for being aero/helisexual not just on here but vertical as well (if that’s the same person). An attitude like that is the kind spawned from someone with no kids and probably a spouse that makes the bread. ZERO time for people like that

LOL, aren't you a fucking moron.

My career has been great in helicopters and i've been paid very well for it. Sorry to rain on your party, it's not my fault that you guys are stuck in a rut. I'm just a lowly employee with a wife and kid to support.

As always, if you don't like the job then get out.

[Bug_Stomper_01]

Heli Ian is one the old aerosexuals who still can't think outside the "for the passion" aviation mindset that's infected maintenance in Canada for so long. He see's aviation as the only path if you went to school for it.


To the OP - find something, almost anything that keeps you from having to earn your income working on airplanes. Been doing it for 22 years and I am finally pulling the pin. The Covid BS was a blessing in disguise and a needed kick to the ass.

Aviation, particularly maintenance, blows. I would not ever do it again nor would I recommend it to anyone.

It’s bad, I have another career outside this garbage which pays my primary income, but I still keep my rate high. Helicopters are as bad or worse than fixed wing in Canada right now. Heliian has a long record for being aero/helisexual not just on here but vertical as well (if that’s the same person). An attitude like that is the kind spawned from someone with no kids and probably a spouse that makes the bread. ZERO time for people like that

LOL, aren't you a fucking moron.

My career has been great in helicopters and i've been paid very well for it. Sorry to rain on your party, it's not my fault that you guys are stuck in a rut. I'm just a lowly employee with a wife and kid to support.

As always, if you don't like the job then get out.

The whole industry is in a rut! If you’ve been doing this as long as you claim, you’ve surely witnessed that. Just look around you, aircraft and companies are leaving Canada. A few little ma and pa operators have sprung up here and there in the large companies ashes but that’s it.
It’s not what it was post 2008 and that’s a fact. The rates are in the gutter, I’m also m1/M2 multi-endorsed. I’ve been paid top dollar (much more than what others were making in some cases more than twice as much) for my work too I wouldn’t call it “very well” by any means, because guess what, I HAVE WORK AND EDUCATION OUTSIDE AVIATION, AND I KNOW. I know the facts and so should you.
The lack of work isn’t necessarily the operators fault, the world has changed but how they’ve adapted and created such a stagnant remuneration (to fix and fly) is disgusting.
Constantly slashing each-others rates and ever continuing less and less support, chowda sees it like most do with his experience from what he’s posted.
Not one heli AME on here can honestly say they haven’t been pressured by management to play in the grey area as he said, it happens more and more these days, and he’s right, if you don’t bend over you get marked the a-hole.
Heliian people like you should leave the industry it would be a much better place.
Constantly Defending current garbage wages and current conditions the way you do, and you’ve been around a very long time (longer than chowda and myself). I doubt very much you’re “just an employee” you’re probably in management and / or a partner somewhere.

[Bug_Stomper_01]

Heli Ian is one the old aerosexuals who still can't think outside the "for the passion" aviation mindset that's infected maintenance in Canada for so long. He see's aviation as the only path if you went to school for it.


To the OP - find something, almost anything that keeps you from having to earn your income working on airplanes. Been doing it for 22 years and I am finally pulling the pin. The Covid BS was a blessing in disguise and a needed kick to the ass.

Aviation, particularly maintenance, blows. I would not ever do it again nor would I recommend it to anyone.

It’s bad, I have another career outside this garbage which pays my primary income, but I still keep my rate high. Helicopters are as bad or worse than fixed wing in Canada right now. Heliian has a long record for being aero/helisexual not just on here but vertical as well (if that’s the same person). An attitude like that is the kind spawned from someone with no kids and probably a spouse that makes the bread. ZERO time for people like that

Im doing the same. I renewed my license, albeit because it was so easy and the fact there's no way in hell I'd go through TC's BS if I let it expire, and wanted to renew it. Just no interest.

Been getting some cold emails for work but the last three I haven't even replied. The offers/work conditions just suck and Im just not into it any more. The right price, maybe, but working by myself outside, at night, with some shithead manager squeezing you into grey/black areas because they cant say "no" in meetings, well....I've had enough. They always will want more and you'll be the instant asshole the moment you decide not to roll with them.

It's happened way too many times and no doubt will continue.

Im not sure if I'd even be employable in this field anymore because my mindset/tolerance has completely changed.

Im a multi endorsed m1/m2 with management experience.

You’re right, and it’s not the same industry post 2008. We used to get praised for finding snags and fixing them now we’re just pests that cost money. The aircraft conditions always speak for themselves, I don’t need to elaborate, if you know you know.

It seems more and more people are putting machines out without ames where they can get away with it even mediums in some cases ffs. I don’t see conditions like this south of the border, it’s a real eye opener how much we do up here with so little.

[Bug_Stomper_01]

If I had to do a trade all over again. Instrumentation tech. Highest paid trade out there .

Welders make great money too if you’re ticketed right.

[PitchLink]

Heli Ian is one the old aerosexuals who still can't think outside the "for the passion" aviation mindset that's infected maintenance in Canada for so long. He see's aviation as the only path if you went to school for it.


To the OP - find something, almost anything that keeps you from having to earn your income working on airplanes. Been doing it for 22 years and I am finally pulling the pin. The Covid BS was a blessing in disguise and a needed kick to the ass.

Aviation, particularly maintenance, blows. I would not ever do it again nor would I recommend it to anyone.

It’s bad, I have another career outside this garbage which pays my primary income, but I still keep my rate high. Helicopters are as bad or worse than fixed wing in Canada right now. Heliian has a long record for being aero/helisexual not just on here but vertical as well (if that’s the same person). An attitude like that is the kind spawned from someone with no kids and probably a spouse that makes the bread. ZERO time for people like that

LOL, aren't you a fucking moron.

My career has been great in helicopters and i've been paid very well for it. Sorry to rain on your party, it's not my fault that you guys are stuck in a rut. I'm just a lowly employee with a wife and kid to support.

As always, if you don't like the job then get out.

What’s your definition of “paid very well”?