Vaticinator wrote: ↑Thu Dec 30, 2021 3:03 pm
CYERCaptainPooping wrote: ↑Thu Dec 30, 2021 2:14 pm
Now that Ontario is seeing a steady increase in vaccinated cases, and the data shows you are more likely to get Covid if you are vaccinated
Well, I don't think it's fair to say that there's any data that will show that a vaccinated person
is more likely to contract covid than an unvaccinated person. That would be a misinterpretation of the data. But I certainly think it's fair to say that it shows that the vaccines are so ineffective over any meaningful length of time that they shouldn't even call them vaccines. Maybe anti-covid supplements would be a more fitting description, considering that after 10 weeks they're down to 50% efficacy. Maybe our government can join forces with Pfizer and start a subscription service. In an effort to enforce social distancing they can start sending out monthly boxes that contain a booster, a new mask, a government approved meal replacement Pfizer soy-based compliance slurry and a CERB cheque for two grand. Throw in a bonus Netflix subscription and no one will ever need to leave their house again.
Why not?
I’m literally looking at the same data people used to make an argument a month ago to say the non vaxers are the reason the pandemic can’t end. “It’s a pandemic of the non vax!”
Vaccinated people today in Ontario, and for the past 3 days at least, have tested positive more than non vaccinated on a population basis. It’s right there in the data. How is it fair to formulate an argument of of testing data, then when the data flips the other way then disagree with an argument.
Next point on vaccine efficacy. South Africa on a population basis has similar (maybe even lower than Canada) Covid death rate since omicron. They have 26 percent fully vaccinated. Many are saying we see the vaccines working because deaths are low… but wait, how do you explain SA who had 20k cases a day and similar death rates. They look like a mirror image of us.
So here’s an interesting thing, how do you measure vaccine efficacy. If I were to take a vaccine and not be hospitalized vs for the same infection if I were not vax and not been hospitalized, does that prove efficacy? They leave out the last variable! They don’t measure that. Literally you can take a population of children, who were extremely unlikely to be hospitalized with Covid, and show zero change for that comparison and call a vaccine “90 percent effective”
How do we call a vaccine effective if we are not even comparing it to the alternative option, which is not being vaccinated?
I’m going to call BS on the vaccine efficacy. Look at the data around the world and nothing screams out that the vaccines are great at all. Health officials have been manipulating numbers, over representation of hospitalization by 50 percent. Comparison of data between SA and Canada… all of this point to more questions than answers.
ICU and hospitalization is low now because omicron is less virulent, and very little to do with vaccines. It’s so obvious when you peel past the BS.
A vaccine that prevents hospitalization for a disease where without a vaccine you would also not be hospitalized is a BS measure of vaccine efficacy.
To measure the efficacy, take the age and demographic at risk and show the results. How many deaths in the 80 plus age get prevented with the vaccines?
What a fucking scam.
