ARE WE LOSING THE RIGHT TO PROTEST?

[rookiepilot]

Premier of Saskatchewan has joined Trudeau’s “fringe minority”.

Will Trudeau call out the premier for being a homophobic misogynistic racist now?

I’m being obnoxious to make my point loud and clear. You can’t do that as PM. Just can’t.


https://twitter.com/PremierScottMoe/sta ... 5102871554

[altiplano]

the fundraising seems to be largely a grift to fill the coffers of yet another fringe party...

They have said that contributions will go directly to fund fuel expenses and on the ground costs borne by participants and any unused contributions will be donated to a veterans charity.

Organizers had to submit a detailed plan to GoFundMe before any funds would be released.

[pelmet]

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/t ... -1.6331679

“Downtown shoppers, hotel guests steer clear of 'frustrating' protest”

I think its time to call in the army…….

“The Parliamentary Protective Service expects as many as 10,000 protesters to be in attendance today.”

“The national flag is flying from some vehicles, or draped around the shoulders of some protestors, many of whom appear to be unmasked.”

https://ottawa.citynews.ca/national-new ... ll-5007356

Horrors. Violent Anarchism!

We need to be masked now? Outside in -30? Seriously?

And people wonder why no one trusts the media?

“Some are carrying copies of the Charter of Rights and Freedoms”.

We can’t allow that. Tear gas them.


Bottom line:

The event is peaceful and Ottawa police say there are no incidents to report.


Won't hear any of our esteemed leaders saying this in an interview.


Lets add this up:


Political leaders and the media have overtly said this protest is full of homophobic, terrorist, racist and hate speech promoters.

The protest has many carrying Canadian flags and the charter of rights and freedoms.

Therefore, if you go anywhere carrying those 2 items….you are now a homophobic misogynistic racist.

According to the media and our leaders.

Welcome to the world of the fake news. I say that as someone in strong support of getting vaccines as you have seen on this forum.

This is the same thing any conservative has had to deal with for years on a variety of subjects, including how you were born. And it gets worse every year.

I think the average American may be waking up to it but am not confident of that in Canada.

Your future………medical care including transplants by race. Don’t believe me after seeing the vaccine rollout in Canada, you can read about its increase here.

https://nypost.com/2022/01/04/if-youre- ... l-you/amp/


Think about that next time you vote. Oh yeah, remember that you are a racist if you oppose it.

[7ECA]

One of the biggest lies from the political left is how the anti-vax movement is right wing politically.

RFK junior….

It does tend to be a movement that skews largely right, towards the more Libertarian/Freeman on the land-esque side of the political spectrum - and that's certainly the side that gets more press, as they are significantly better organized and funded. I'd certainly never argue that there aren't Left-wing individuals and groups on the other side protesting similarly, because there absolutely are; but they are nowhere near as large nor as well organized as their counterparts on the opposite end of the political spectrum; and you know that pelmet.

RFK Jr., is a nutcase and has been for years. No one is going to argue otherwise, other than people whom latch on to the de jour comment of the day as their own personal gospel. I mean, did you hear the batshit crazy stuff he was ranting on about GPS/microchips/Bill Gates and the Holocaust? He's unhinged. But, he's far from the first person to use a "revered" family name to gain notoriety and peddle their BS - not that I'm saying the Kennedy name or family is angelic by any means, far from it...

But, please explain how RFK Jr., or the majority of anti-vaccine or anti-mandate protests being right-wing in nature, have anything to due with left-wing protests about old growth logging or anti-pipeline protests on a rural reserve being met by massive police responses?

[pelmet]

One of the biggest lies from the political left is how the anti-vax movement is right wing politically.

RFK junior….

But, please explain how RFK Jr., or the majority of anti-vaccine or anti-mandate protests being right-wing in nature, have anything to due with left-wing protests about old growth logging or anti-pipeline protests on a rural reserve being met by massive police responses?

I’m simply pointing out the lie put forward by liberals that the anti-vax movement is a right wing movement period. They may have a higher percentage, although I haven’t seen any polls but when Trump is recommending to get your vaccine and RFK jr is saying how dangerous it is, it proves me right.

[7ECA]

I’m simply pointing out the lie put forward by liberals that the anti-vax movement is a right wing movement period. They may have a higher percentage, although I haven’t seen any polls but when Trump is recommending to get your vaccine and RFK jr is saying how dangerous it is, it proves me right.

Painting with a broad brush an entire movement is certainly disingenuous, but so is failing to point out changing messages from certain high profile individuals.

They're both nuts, but on different parts of the spectrum. The danger comes from those whom latch on to any of the nonsense peddled by whichever demagogue they feel like listening to, instead of allowing for rapid and ever changing information and considering nuance rather than dogma when it comes to decision making.

But, your (and that's the royal your) health is yours and yours alone. As the saying goes, your rights are absolutely inalienable until they begin to infringe upon mine...

[rookiepilot]

Has the insurrection Trudeau is in his bunker waiting for, and promised by Singh will happen, started?

Canada is the laughing stock of the world. Winston Churchill our leaders are not.

Let me know when it starts. Watching the Raptors.

NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh said he is “concerned by extremist elements that are spreading misinformation and attempting to turn the convoy into a Canadian version of the terrorist attacks on the U.S. Capitol,” in a statement released Thursday.

Liberals:

But the event we're looking at this weekend is not what it appears. Several members of this group are connected to militant racist, sexist, and homophobic groups. Their statements and placards promote xenophobia. They are not here to only raise voices against vaccination mandates, but to also fuel hatred against the very fabric of our society.

[7ECA]

I watched a few minutes of coverage, and saw some objectionable signage - and let's remember that the TV news isn't going to broadcast much of the really disgusting signage. People screaming at reporters, telling them they should be ashamed of themselves, etc., not much of a surprise to hear that from certain demographics by any means.

I'm pretty appalled by the sight of people who decided to park on the War Memorial, and those who thought it was okay to slap signs up on the Terry Fox statue as well. Give your head a shake FFS.

[pelmet]

I watched a few minutes of coverage, and saw some objectionable signage - and let's remember that the TV news isn't going to broadcast much of the really disgusting signage. People screaming at reporters, telling them they should be ashamed of themselves, etc., not much of a surprise to hear that from certain demographics by any means.

I'm pretty appalled by the sight of people who decided to park on the War Memorial, and those who thought it was okay to slap signs up on the Terry Fox statue as well. Give your head a shake FFS.

Wondering if you hold the same views while watching radical terrorist leftists destroying public property and burning down churches this passed summer? Also, don’t recall your comments of pro- mandate radicals defacing war memorials on remembrance day.

Exactly. When that happens……it is an isolated incident(perhaps understandable due to the past) as opposed to the same people using an isolated incident as a an intentional broad brush.

Folks, you should be very scared of how these people are being treated by the left, including their fake, unprofessional media propaganda machines.

These protesters are a group of people whose agenda I oppose(meaning I say get your vaccine) and whose method I oppose(meaning don’t block traffic).

But the intentional racism, violence, and whatever other narrative used against them is going to be used against anyone else who protests against the policies of the left, whether it is climate change policies or opposition to the increasing amount of government mandated health care/career opportunities by race.

Don’t like it, you are a white supremecist.

[Bingo Fuel]

One of the biggest lies from the political left is how the anti-vax movement is right wing politically.

Better make sure these right wing politicians know they're being manipulated by the left.

https://twitter.com/BrettBartMuse/statu ... c00nVz8xiQ

[complexintentions]

Has the insurrection Trudeau is in his bunker waiting for, and promised by Singh will happen, started?

Canada is the laughing stock of the world. Winston Churchill our leaders are not.

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[rookiepilot]

Know what’s disgusting?

How many professional pilots I read here that are angry about the restrictions Canada has placed on travel.

Affecting your livelihoods— unless you’re retired with that fat AC pension.

Too many of you here are like that. “I’m retired, I’m comfortable, don’t protest in my city cause you’re working and struggling during a pandemic”

But blue collar trucker trash dare protest?

Can’t allow that.

Hypocrisy at its finest.

[Inverted2]

Why is the left so triggered about a flag on the Terry Fox statue when they said nothing about the countless statues destroyed by leftists last year? People have short memories.

[northernpilot2]

I don’t see January 6 Insurrection here.

Shame on the media.

pelmet is probably disappointed. He/she is probably hoping for a January 6 Insurrection.

[pelmet]

I don’t see January 6 Insurrection here.

Shame on the media.

pelmet is probably disappointed. He/she is probably hoping for a January 6 Insurrection.

Actually, as time goes by, I am more and more hoping for arrests to clear them out. Go back to work and stop by the vaccine clinic on the way.

[godsrcrazy]

You only have the right to protest and block supply chains if you aboriginal. I think the proof is in the pudding 1 year ago.

[broken_slinky]

Actually, as time goes by, I am more and more hoping for arrests to clear them out.

I'm all for peaceful protests but I'm starting to fall into that camp. When you hear stories of the protestors demanding food from places like the Shepherds of Good Hope food/homeless shelter then throwing out a bunch of racial slurs directed at the security guard who's just trying to defuse the situation, it's time to start making arrests and towing vehicles.
Wonder how much of that "freedom convoy" gofundme money will be donated to the shelter?
Conveniently Trudeau has been hiding away from Ottawa for the last week with possible COVID exposure and just announced today he tested positive.

[pelmet]

Actually, as time goes by, I am more and more hoping for arrests to clear them out.

I'm all for peaceful protests but I'm starting to fall into that camp. When you hear stories of the protestors demanding food from places like the Shepherds of Good Hope food/homeless shelter then throwing out a bunch of racial slurs directed at the security guard who's just trying to defuse the situation, it's time to start making arrests and towing vehicles.

Probably media exaggeration. My problem is with blocking streets and highways.

[broken_slinky]

Actually, as time goes by, I am more and more hoping for arrests to clear them out.

I'm all for peaceful protests but I'm starting to fall into that camp. When you hear stories of the protestors demanding food from places like the Shepherds of Good Hope food/homeless shelter then throwing out a bunch of racial slurs directed at the security guard who's just trying to defuse the situation, it's time to start making arrests and towing vehicles.

Probably media exaggeration. My problem is with blocking streets and highways.

From the Shepherd's own facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/sghottawa/phot ... 241670564/
Think they're just making it up?

[broken_slinky]

How about this one too?
https://ottawa.citynews.ca/local-news/r ... oy-5011107

[altiplano]

There are tens of thousands of people there and in those people there are those who are not there for the stated cause/goals but are there to agitate and cause disruption and create negative press to undermine the larger goals.

They pick places/moments and are aided by far left politicians from local level career bureaucrats like Councillor Catherine "Words are Violence" McKenney, right up to PM Justin "Racists and Misogynists" Trudeau, barking through their compliant media to highlight these isolated occurrences.

[pelmet]

I'm all for peaceful protests but I'm starting to fall into that camp. When you hear stories of the protestors demanding food from places like the Shepherds of Good Hope food/homeless shelter then throwing out a bunch of racial slurs directed at the security guard who's just trying to defuse the situation, it's time to start making arrests and towing vehicles.

Probably media exaggeration. My problem is with blocking streets and highways.

From the Shepherd's own facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/sghottawa/phot ... 241670564/
Think they're just making it up?

Once again, my main issue is the blocking of streets and highways. Go home and back to work.

[rookiepilot]

Guess this question has been asked and answered today.

What IS a legal protest now anyway, as the PM on one hand has spoken his intention to arrest everyone in Ottawa (implied), on the other “this will not prevent the protected right to protest”.

Where?

My own backyard, if it doesn’t bother my neighbors?

[7ECA]

Section 2(c) guarantees the right to peaceful assembly; it does not protect riots and gatherings that seriously disturb the peace: R. v. Lecompte, [2000] J.Q. No. 2452 (Que. C.A.). It has been stated that the right to freedom of assembly, along with freedom of expression, does not include the right to physically impede or blockade lawful activities: Guelph (City) v. Soltys, [2009] O.J. No. 3369 (Ont. Sup. Ct. Jus), at paragraph 26.

https://www.justice.gc.ca/eng/csj-sjc/r ... art2c.html

[88gtst]

Actually, as time goes by, I am more and more hoping for arrests to clear them out.

I'm all for peaceful protests but I'm starting to fall into that camp. When you hear stories of the protestors demanding food from places like the Shepherds of Good Hope food/homeless shelter then throwing out a bunch of racial slurs directed at the security guard who's just trying to defuse the situation, it's time to start making arrests and towing vehicles.
Wonder how much of that "freedom convoy" gofundme money will be donated to the shelter?
Conveniently Trudeau has been hiding away from Ottawa for the last week with possible COVID exposure and just announced today he tested positive.

Sounds like you've been watching too much CBC.