Truckers convoy

[Inverted2]

I went maskless into 2 stores today and nobody said a word. I got a death stare from a Karen but it was worth it. I encourage you all to try it.

[RoAF-Mig21]

I went maskless into 2 stores today and nobody said a word. I got a death stare from a Karen but it was worth it. I encourage you all to try it.

Hahaha. I went to Serbia last fall and nobody wore masks there, anywhere. I felt like going in "Naked" but quicky forgot and remembered how awesome life was before these mandates and restrictions. Can't wait to get back to some sort of normality.

[Just another canuck]

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[737Maximilian]

I went maskless into 2 stores today and nobody said a word. I got a death stare from a Karen but it was worth it. I encourage you all to try it.

I've been doing that since last summer. Nobody says a word. Only place I wear one is at my kids stuff cause I don't want to get banned. Lol.

I find most people tend not to question those suffering from mental illness, so I'm glad you received an appropriate reception.

[pecessix]

I've been maskless for almost two years now (in Ontario) and never had any issue, just telling people I'm exempt when they ask.

This convoy is too big to get ignored for sure but they certainly don't have the millions of people support that you seems to imply.
I'll give you a tiny sample. Nobody but one in my entourage support them! Sure thing everybody would like their life back to normal in a timely manner, they just don't support those awful ideas I listed above (The one pro-Convoy is a hard core anti-vax by the way, no bias there)

TG, did you really ask everyone from your entourage???
Read that again from Just Another Canuck:

If you say you don’t know anyone or only know a few who support it, maybe look at how you interact and converse with these people. Maybe they’re only agreeing with you so you don’t chastise them for voicing their opinion.

(The one pro-Convoy is a hard core anti-vax by the way, no bias there)

You clearly don't know what you are talking about. Those people are vaccinated for most of them, they just want mandates to end and the freedom of choice. Go to Ottawa if you can, spend some time with them, you should change your mind...

[Vaticinator]

I went maskless into 2 stores today and nobody said a word. I got a death stare from a Karen but it was worth it. I encourage you all to try it.

I've been doing that since last summer. Nobody says a word. Only place I wear one is at my kids stuff cause I don't want to get banned. Lol.

I find most people tend not to question those suffering from mental illness, so I'm glad you received an appropriate reception.

If you're vaccinated, why would you need to wear a mask?

[737Maximilian]

If you're vaccinated, why would you need to wear a mask?

Vaccines do not prevent transmissibility completely. Masks help a bit. Since masks are so easy to wear, if they result in even one life being saved, wouldn't they be worth it? Doctors and nurses wear masks every day, so why can't we? Honestly, what's the issue?

[kgb531]

Lol. If you've spent anytime looking around antivaxx/antimask/anti-science/anti-passport/evangelical/PPCer/convoy Facebook groups, you will see they link and share any and every online poll they can find so they can skew the results to fit there narrative. Tips on how to delete cookies even write scripts to vote multiple times. You wonder why VAERS has become a joke.
I say someone should trigger another election and provide another reality check to the above groups just like the last election did.
If the CPC wants to survive and grow it will be by getting more votes from the centre. To do that they will have to bring policy that way. Move even one notch to the right and they will be the perpetual opposition.

When myself or anyone for that matter complains of government overreach or tyranny as said earlier, they always talk about North Korea or some other country with terrible living conditions? Is that how bad it has to get here before we say, oh maybe we should do something about it? I really hate using WW2 Germany as an example, but most Jews walked idly and complied all the way to the gas chamber before they put up a fight and even then many didn’t. They just accepted their fate. If you’re going to read one book on the Holocaust, read the The Holocaust by Martin Gilbert. Venezuela went from being the richest and most prosperous nations in South America to what it is today in less than a decade. As I’ve said before, Canadians are an apathetic bunch, always have been. Couple that with a leader and government we have today and it’s a recipe for disaster. Housing, gas, energy, food… all at record highs with no signs of stopping. Add these mandates and restrictions and call me paranoid, but the direction we are headed feels very, very wrong.

The Canadian Trucking Alliance is no stranger to donating sums of money to Liberal Party and have for many years. They are widely known to support corporate interests and not necessarily the guy behind the wheel.

There are plenty of online polls which support my claim of majority support:

Ottawa CTV - 78% support with over 30,000 votes
The Star - over 60% support with almost 60,000 votes
The CBC polls were pulled when they showed 70+ % support for the convoy. I can’t find them anymore anyway.
Castanet - over 60% with 40,000+ votes
Both Mississauga and Hamilton polls hovered around 65% with thousands of votes.
My very Liberal city is at 64% support.
Toronto Sun over 70% support with over 20,000 votes.
I could go on.

Many of the media outlets have deleted their polls and obviously because they were not the numbers they were looking for. You can tell me online polls are garbage and don’t mean anything, but when support is floating around 70% +/- 5 on ALL of them, the margin of error is certainly not enough to support yours and many others claim that only a very small percentage support it.

According to Angus Reid, most Canadians say it’s time to end restrictions and let people who are sick self-isolate and these figures are up around 15 points from only weeks ago, which would also explain another posters remarks with regards to the election. Only a few months ago, many were still okay with the current mandates and restrictions because there was a light at the end of the tunnel. Now, the country is saying no more.

If you say you don’t know anyone or only know a few who support it, maybe look at how you interact and converse with these people. Maybe they’re only agreeing with you so you don’t chastise them for voicing their opinion. For example, I know plenty and plenty of people who support DJT, but would NEVER say it in public, for fear of that one person who will scream and shout them down and call them a racist. Meanwhile, their candidate, be it Hillary or Joe, have some of the most racist history in politics. Same goes for JT. He is a misogynist, but claims to be a feminist. He is a racist, but claims all others are.

Why does anyone anywhere advocate for continued mandates and restrictions? If you’re vaccinated, you are protected, right? If you feel it isn’t safe to go outside in public with dissolved restrictions, you can just stay home, right? Why the continued paranoia about what may or may not happen? And why do any of you care what the other person is doing with regards to public life? So many people now have become entangled and dedicated to the continuation of this thing that any return to normal is worse than the pandemic itself. Throw the mask away, get vaccinated, go to the movies, enjoy yourselves.

I support the truckers 100%. I’m glad they are able and capable to do what they are doing. Can’t wait to see Ford squirm a little more when they turn Queen’s Park into a parking lot this Saturday. Quebec has cancelled the vax tax. Saskatchewan is cancelling all restrictions. Alberta is negotiating and announced changes are coming in the days ahead. I guess it’s working. Hold the line!

If Trudeau uses force of any kind, military included or not, he is making a big mistake. If one person gets hurt or worse, killed, it is on him and him alone. All he had to do was come to the table. I fear that some of these protestors are at their wit’s end and although are hoping for a successful outcome, may be armed and ready to use force themselves should force be thrust upon them. Now, if just one person is hurt or killed, a vote of no confidence would be not just an option, but a necessity, to remove JT from office. Even his own Liberal government will throw him under the bus in an attempt to save their own skin.

Have a google about Acuitas Therapeutics and that may explain why we’re ordering enough vaccines for the Western Hemisphere. Rumour is the Trudeau Foundation is a majority shareholder. Tinfoil hat, maybe. But it would explain a lot.

[Vaticinator]

Masks help a bit.

Yes, "a bit." Not very much though. Did you wear a mask during flu season, in the before time? I certainly hope so, because if you did not, you might have killed an elderly person. Covid will not be eradicated, so do you plan to wear a mask everywhere for the rest of your life?

[737Maximilian]

Yes, "a bit." Not very much though. Did you wear a mask during flu season, in the before time? I certainly hope so, because if you did not, you might have killed an elderly person. Covid will not be eradicated, so do you plan to wear a mask everywhere for the rest of your life?

Check the mortality numbers between the flu and covid. If you can't see the distinction, then you're dillustional.

I do hope Omnicron has made the virus enedmic, thus leading to a flu-like risk factor; however, time will tell.

[Vaticinator]

Yes, "a bit." Not very much though. Did you wear a mask during flu season, in the before time? I certainly hope so, because if you did not, you might have killed an elderly person. Covid will not be eradicated, so do you plan to wear a mask everywhere for the rest of your life?

Check the mortality numbers between the flu and covid. If you can't see the distinction, then you're dillustional.

I do hope Omnicron has made the virus enedmic, thus leading to a flu-like risk factor; however, time will tell.

After vaccination your risk of death from covid is 0.00003%. If you're still scared enough to wear a mask, I suggest it might be you who is "dillustional."

[pelmet]

Yes, "a bit." Not very much though. Did you wear a mask during flu season, in the before time? I certainly hope so, because if you did not, you might have killed an elderly person. Covid will not be eradicated, so do you plan to wear a mask everywhere for the rest of your life?

Check the mortality numbers between the flu and covid. If you can't see the distinction, then you're dillustional.

I do hope Omnicron has made the virus enedmic, thus leading to a flu-like risk factor; however, time will tell.

After vaccination your risk of death from covid is 0.00003%. If you're still scared enough to wear a mask, I suggest it might be you who is "dillustional."

What the anti-vaxxers always try not to talk about....

How a rise in long-haul COVID-19 symptoms could be a 'mass disabling event'
https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/coronavir ... -1.5747715

https://ca.finance.yahoo.com/news/long- ... 04184.html

[EPR]

I'm a bit of an anomaly as I think it's time to release all restrictions, except masks, simply because people are stupid and don't know enough to sneeze/cough into their elbow, they either don't cover anything or sneeze into their hand, then they handle everything from door handles to grocery items, and you touch it, rub your eyes/nose and voila..you're infected!! These same losers still believe that you can catch the cold by ..being out in the cold air!..lol

[TG]

I've been maskless for almost two years now (in Ontario) and never had any issue, just telling people I'm exempt when they ask.

Nothing like lying in plain sight eh!?

If you say you don’t know anyone or only know a few who support it, maybe look at how you interact and converse with these people. Maybe they’re only agreeing with you so you don’t chastise them for voicing their opinion.

This is a very good argument! Except that:
I'm an introvert and more of a listener, so I listen and what they tell me is that they don't support this Truckers convoy. If One wants to hides his or her real opinion that would be pretty lame and low ball. What made me vocal here in this Covid Sub-forum is this feeling of helplessness with my hard core Conspiracy anti-vax friend in real life.
As much as I don't want to loose him as a long time buddy (He knows where I stand) I have no qualms p!ssing Deniers Off here trying to bring them back to reality. To put it simply, I don't care if one of you end up blocking my profil lol

So nice try.

(The one pro-Convoy is a hard core anti-vax by the way, no bias there)

You clearly don't know what you are talking about. Those people are vaccinated for most of them, they just want mandates to end and the freedom of choice. Go to Ottawa if you can, spend some time with them, you should change your mind...

Thanks again for the assumption, we ALL want mandates to end but as the saying goes, your freedom of choice stop where mine start!
Us as human race tend to do pretty poor when we have all our freedom. There is stuff we can choose for ourselves and other stuff that needs some form of guidance. That's why we elect government, so it does the big "guidance"
Don't like it? Vote for someone else or create your own political Freeeeeedom party! Have a majority voting for you.

Good thing that us as human race were not left from the start with all our freeeeeedom. We would still be living in caves with a life expectancy of 19 years!

Ah yes! Going to Ottawa to get harassed by a bunch of Karens in need of attentions? No thanks! I'm done arguing.
Locals DO get harassed/Intimidated by the way and not only by honking.


To conclude, I'm not sure what the fuse is all about now.
All Covid's restrictions will eventually be lifted, they are going to be anyway unless a nasty variante pops up. Deniers will backslap themselves saying "WE DID IT!" Even if they had absolutely nothing to do with it (More extending this thing actually with their stupid actions from the start thinking they know it all)


At the end all that stuff will be forgotten in a few years from now.

[Bingo Fuel]

If you're vaccinated, why would you need to wear a mask?

I am triple vaccinated.

I wear my N95 mask to protect others, and will continue doing so after mandates are dropped when there are high risks of infection.

Going forward, that includes the flu.

I don't wear the N95 mask to protect myself, but I won't force you to put one on. I agree that it should be a personal choice.

[Vaticinator]

After vaccination your risk of death from covid is 0.00003%. If you're still scared enough to wear a mask, I suggest it might be you who is "dillustional."

What the anti-vaxxers always try not to talk about....

How a rise in long-haul COVID-19 symptoms could be a 'mass disabling event'
https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/coronavir ... -1.5747715

https://ca.finance.yahoo.com/news/long- ... 04184.html

I'm not sure how your post relates to mine, in any way that required quoting it.

[imjustlurking]

If you're vaccinated, why would you need to wear a mask?

I am triple vaccinated.

I wear my N95 mask to protect others, and will continue doing so after mandates are dropped when there are high risks of infection.

Going forward, that includes the flu.

I don't wear the N95 mask to protect myself, but I won't force you to put one on. I agree that it should be a personal choice.

Once mask mandates are dropped, I'll likely stop wearing mine to most places.

Honestly, I can live with the mask mandate for a bit longer, but I'm tired of the restrictions that aren't actually helping. Mandating testing before entering the country is a big one that is only destroying the travel industry and making people feel trapped.

[Bingo Fuel]

Honestly, I can live with the mask mandate for a bit longer, but I'm tired of the restrictions that aren't actually helping. Mandating testing before entering the country is a big one that is only destroying the travel industry and making people feel trapped.

100%. Travel restrictions are only able to delay the arrival of a new variant by about two weeks. If the variant is already here, there is no point in stopping cross-border transmission.

COVID test mandates for travel should be removed.

[rookiepilot]

Honestly, I can live with the mask mandate for a bit longer, but I'm tired of the restrictions that aren't actually helping. Mandating testing before entering the country is a big one that is only destroying the travel industry and making people feel trapped.

100%. Travel restrictions are only able to delay the arrival of a new variant by about two weeks. If the variant is already here, there is no point in stopping cross-border transmission.

COVID test mandates for travel should be removed.

I have international travel plans lined up and ready to go. Not until they remove that restriction.

Ridiculous I can't return home if I test positive for the common cold version of this virus.

Delta is one thing. Omicron is completely different.

[Bingo Fuel]

We don’t elect democratic governments to make decisions for us. God help anyone that votes like.

So the people should be responsible for every decision? How would we do that, monthly referendums?

[Just another canuck]

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[Just another canuck]

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[altiplano]

If you're vaccinated, why would you need to wear a mask?

I wear my N95 mask to protect others, and will continue doing so after mandates are dropped when there are high risks of infection.

Going forward, that includes the flu.

I don't wear the N95 mask to protect myself, but I won't force you to put one on. I agree that it should be a personal choice.

Your understanding of N95 certification is wrong. Respirators are measured and performance certified by the filtering protection they provide for the user, not others in the environment. Many respirators have exhalation valves.

Wear N95 for yourself if that's your thing.

[Bingo Fuel]

Your understanding of N95 certification is wrong. Respirators are measured and performance certified by the filtering protection they provide for the user, not others in the environment. Many respirators have exhalation valves.

Wear N95 for yourself if that's your thing.

They may not be rated for that purpose, yet they are still effective at doing so as long as they don't have exhalation valves. My masks do not have valves.

I will continue to wear my mask when I feel there is a risk to others. If there is not a serious amount of COVID or flu in the community, I will not be wearing a mask.

I will not ask you to do the same. This is my personal choice to take responsibility for the health of those around me.