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Big Bird Anonymous wrote: Wed Feb 09, 2022 12:05 pm
tsgarp wrote: Wed Feb 09, 2022 11:56 am
Big Bird Anonymous wrote: Wed Feb 09, 2022 11:40 am ATTENTION: REAL NEWS ALERT

https://www.cbc.ca/player/play/1998098499751

No hope for the criminals violently holding innocents hostage...all they are doing is harming Canadians...these "people" are not real Canadians so what do they care...tRumPETS

McConnell calls Jan. 6 a 'violent insurrection,' hits RNC for censure of Cheney, Kinzinger


https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/other/mc ... d=msedgntp

The right are imploding
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Dude, nobody who wants to be taken seriously calls CBC real news or the Jan 6 protest an insurrection. Making blatantly dogmatic and false statements like that just makes you look unhinged.
That's right you "people" are the NOBODY's who lack the intelligence of discrimination...so why would I care if a NOBODY thinks I'm less than them if I post a legitimate news piece that dozens of media outlets WORLDWIDE are covering the exact same interview...does watching through the right wing media make it REAL...NO IT DOES NOT son (and boy, I'm not your DUDE)...thanks for quoting me though...and being unhinged is what the scumbag terrorist "big man" convoy are demonstrating hourly... :arrow: next
Dude, you are most welcome for quoting you.

What I think you fail to comprehend is that HuffPost, CBC and CNN are just as biased and propagandist as Fox, the Sun and Rebel news. You just seem to think that they are legitimate because they hold views similar to your own. As you mature you will start to develop the ability to read the narrative from all parties in a conflict and interpolate the truth.

As to why you should care about what other people think of you; you’re right, you shouldn’t. The fact that you keep coming back to take the bait that is being offered tells me that you haven’t quite reached a state of zen when it comes to other peoples’ opinions of you.
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It’s always a good idea to take your science advice from a pdf and a meme posted on an internet aviation board
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It would make me think.

Why does a subcommittee member start with a conclusion (albeit implied) and then select only the data which supports it. Could it be that he is Republican and doesn’t really like the current Democratic government? The same reason that large foreign anonymous donations to the truckers are suspected to come from the Republican Party?

It’s asking for a root cause.

Well, a root cause, or root causes could be anything. Pandemic induced stress. The incidental diagnosis of more problems due to heightened paranoia surrounding the pandemic. A small dataset or incorrect data. The fact that things like miscarriages are often hidden in a highly conservative institution. Lots of mental health problem have been latent or misdiagnosed until recently. A million other things. It also uses absolute numbers rather than representative ones which don’t account for changes in numbers of servicemen—undoubtedly to try and inflate the numbers more.

Correlation in no way implies causation. Show me some scientific facts.

Given the BILLIONS of people who have received the vaccine.. yet have not overrun the healthcare system with the same problems (while the antivaxxers greatly overrepresent in terms of hospitalizations and deaths relative to their extremely small numbers) I find the subcommittee member’s implications highly dubious.
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Just another canuck wrote: Wed Feb 09, 2022 5:12 pm
A pdf it may be, but it's a letter to the DOD from a U.S. Senator. And would you consider yourself more educated on the subject of mRNA science than the virolugist and immunoligist who has multiple patents for it and is internationally recognized as the architect behind it and has worked on it for over 30 years?

The quote is from a recent interview he did with Candace Owens. Feel free to watch the episode but the orange emblem of PragerU likely puts you in the fetal position as you whimper.
Don't you antivaxxers ever bother doing a 2 second google search to fact check your latest bullshit theory? Can you explain why is that too much effort for you?

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CpnCrunch wrote: Wed Feb 09, 2022 5:29 pm
Just another canuck wrote: Wed Feb 09, 2022 5:12 pm
A pdf it may be, but it's a letter to the DOD from a U.S. Senator. And would you consider yourself more educated on the subject of mRNA science than the virolugist and immunoligist who has multiple patents for it and is internationally recognized as the architect behind it and has worked on it for over 30 years?

The quote is from a recent interview he did with Candace Owens. Feel free to watch the episode but the orange emblem of PragerU likely puts you in the fetal position as you whimper.
Don't you antivaxxers ever bother doing a 2 second google search to fact check your latest bullshit theory? Can you explain why is that too much effort for you?

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2 ... pokespers/
Oops. Conservatives caught lying again. Shameful!
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Just another canuck wrote: Wed Feb 09, 2022 5:48 pm

Politifact. No bias there. Glitch in the system? Convenient as always. Underreported and new data coming. Okay. Or that kind of information being confirmed in any way would cause a mutiny.

I suppose you're smarter than Dr. Malone as well and I'm sure Pfizer is spending money in the court system to block their research for good reasons. And the thousands of doctors and health professionals who are skeptical are stupid too? They should be listening to you, with all your wisdom and expertise on MRNA tech.

I'm skeptical. It was supposed to stop infection completely. It didn't do that. So they admitted you could still be infected but could not transmit. Wrong. Didn't happen. Then it will prevent hospitalization and death. Wrong again. Now it will provide SOME protection against severe sickness and you're less likely to die. The new Pfizer vax will be put next month I hear. This one will work, they promise but don't ask for their data cause you don't need to see that.
The point is there was never any evidence for this in the first place. Go away.
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CpnCrunch wrote: Wed Feb 09, 2022 2:49 pm He just said "vaccines work".
He said he got vaccinated so that he could visit his elderly parents without transmitting the virus to them. Then he said he got his young son vaccinated so that he (his son) wouldn't get covid.
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Whenever you’re proven embarrassingly wrong by a 2 second google search, remember to double down.

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Aviatard wrote: Wed Feb 09, 2022 5:42 pm
CpnCrunch wrote: Wed Feb 09, 2022 5:29 pm
Just another canuck wrote: Wed Feb 09, 2022 5:12 pm
A pdf it may be, but it's a letter to the DOD from a U.S. Senator. And would you consider yourself more educated on the subject of mRNA science than the virolugist and immunoligist who has multiple patents for it and is internationally recognized as the architect behind it and has worked on it for over 30 years?

The quote is from a recent interview he did with Candace Owens. Feel free to watch the episode but the orange emblem of PragerU likely puts you in the fetal position as you whimper.
Don't you antivaxxers ever bother doing a 2 second google search to fact check your latest bullshit theory? Can you explain why is that too much effort for you?

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2 ... pokespers/
Oops. Conservatives caught lying again. Shameful!
Can we rename the sub form "covid" to "politics"

Politics is the only thing left in any covid debate. I even hear grumbles from the left that they know covid restrictions should end but we first need to get rid of those truckers so they don't get their way. Trudeau needs a covid victory and this has to be his decision that this all ends.

I thought an easy way to end it would have been to say we now have a vaccine, go back to normal. How the heck did we get here 😂
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Vaticinator wrote: Wed Feb 09, 2022 5:53 pm
CpnCrunch wrote: Wed Feb 09, 2022 2:49 pm He just said "vaccines work".
He said he got vaccinated so that he could visit his elderly parents without transmitting the virus to them. Then he said he got his young son vaccinated so that he (his son) wouldn't get covid.
That's still not what he said, and it's also not what you said he said previously. Here is what he actually said:

"Mr. Speaker, I particularly appreciate the emphasis on vaccination status. When I get vaccinated, I am doing it for myself, but also for my parents. When I visit my parents after getting vaccinated, I know I am protecting them. When my son gets vaccinated, I know that he is protected, and I am glad he is, but I also know that he will be protecting all the seniors he might run into."
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CpnCrunch wrote: Wed Feb 09, 2022 6:42 pm
Vaticinator wrote: Wed Feb 09, 2022 5:53 pm
CpnCrunch wrote: Wed Feb 09, 2022 2:49 pm He just said "vaccines work".
He said he got vaccinated so that he could visit his elderly parents without transmitting the virus to them. Then he said he got his young son vaccinated so that he (his son) wouldn't get covid.
That's still not what he said, and it's also not what you said he said previously. Here is what he actually said:

"Mr. Speaker, I particularly appreciate the emphasis on vaccination status. When I get vaccinated, I am doing it for myself, but also for my parents. When I visit my parents after getting vaccinated, I know I am protecting them. When my son gets vaccinated, I know that he is protected, and I am glad he is, but I also know that he will be protecting all the seniors he might run into."
Another conservative caught in an embarrassing lie. This is getting to be humiliating.
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CpnCrunch wrote: Wed Feb 09, 2022 6:42 pm When I visit my parents after getting vaccinated, I know I am protecting them. When my son gets vaccinated, I know that he is protected, and I am glad he is, but I also know that he will be protecting all the seniors he might run into."
Yeah, exactly. All lies. He's not protecting his parents by getting vaccinated. His son isn't protected from contracting covid and no one is protected by him getting vaccinated. It's all demonstrably false. Whatever, keep eating the bullshit all you invertebrates. I don't care. The tides are finally turning.
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Just a quick preview of the upcoming election candidates.
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Vaticinator wrote: Wed Feb 09, 2022 8:17 pm
CpnCrunch wrote: Wed Feb 09, 2022 6:42 pm When I visit my parents after getting vaccinated, I know I am protecting them. When my son gets vaccinated, I know that he is protected, and I am glad he is, but I also know that he will be protecting all the seniors he might run into."
Yeah, exactly. All lies. He's not protecting his parents by getting vaccinated. His son isn't protected from contracting covid and no one is protected by him getting vaccinated. It's all demonstrably false. Whatever, keep eating the bullshit all you invertebrates. I don't care. The tides are finally turning.
No, of course youre wrong and you know it. Every piece of antivax bs youve posted here we have refuted, but you keep coming back with more. I could post the %s for protection against various strains but i know youre not interested.
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Unless it's 100%, neither he nor you can "know" you're protecting anyone, and if you said so, you'd be lying.
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WellThatAgedWell wrote: Wed Feb 09, 2022 6:01 pm
Aviatard wrote: Wed Feb 09, 2022 5:42 pm
CpnCrunch wrote: Wed Feb 09, 2022 5:29 pm

Don't you antivaxxers ever bother doing a 2 second google search to fact check your latest bullshit theory? Can you explain why is that too much effort for you?

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2 ... pokespers/
Oops. Conservatives caught lying again. Shameful!
Can we rename the sub form "covid" to "politics"
How about renaming it: 'A Guide for the Perplexed''?

Or maybe simply 'The Pit'? (As in "get out of the Pit and on to the Pendulum")



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Vaticinator wrote: Wed Feb 09, 2022 9:51 pm Unless it's 100%, neither he nor you can "know" you're protecting anyone, and if you said so, you'd be lying.
If all else fails, the final and apparently ultimate argument of the anti-vaccine crowd - if it's not 100%, gold plated, fool proof, sure fire, IT AIN'T GOOD ENOUGH! :goodman:

Give your head a shake, you're little more than a modern day luddite.
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The Legacy Media is Smearing the Trucker Convoys

Legacy Media has been bought by the Federal Government.

From the

CBC 2019 – 2020 Annual Report

Revenue and other sources of funds

CBC/Radio-Canada has four sources of direct funding: government appropriations for operating and capital expenditures, advertising revenue, subscriber fees, and financing and other income:

Government funding: This year, operating funding was $1,098.1 million, capital funding recognized in income was $106.9 million and working capital was $4.0 million.

Advertising revenue: This includes ongoing sales of advertising on our conventional television channels, digital platforms, discretionary television services and other platforms. TV advertising revenue is decreasing as a proportion of our total source of funds mainly as a result of the market’s shift away from conventional advertising platforms.

Subscriber fees: These are fees from our discretionary services: CBC News Network, documentary, CBC Gem, ICI EXPLORA, ICI ARTV, ICI RDI, ICI TOU.TV EXTRA and Curio.ca. Subscriber fees from our traditional platforms are experiencing downward pressure from the continuing cord-cutting and cord-shaving trends.

Financing and other income: This includes ongoing income from activities such as the rental of real estate assets, content sales, leasing of space at our transmission sites, host broadcasting sports events such as World Championships and contributions from the Canada Media Fund.
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If I received 70% of my cash flow (over 1 Billion Dollars) from one supply I would sure as hell not piss them off.



By Christine Dobby Business Reporter Mon., Feb. 8, 2021 – Toronto Star

Layoffs at Bell and Rogers plus ongoing dividend payments draw criticism from industry watchers who say federal program didn’t save jobs at the big three telecoms.

Rogers, Bell and Telus collected more than $240 million from Canada’s wage-subsidy program — and Bell and Telus raised shareholder payouts.

Layoffs at Bell and Rogers plus ongoing dividend payments draw criticism from industry watchers who say federal program didn’t save jobs at the big three telecoms.

Canada’s big three telecom companies have collectively received more than $240 million from the federal government’s wage subsidy program while continuing to pay out billions of dollars in dividends to shareholders.

According to the most recent filings in provincial lobbyist registries, Bell has received $122.9 million, Rogers $82.3 million and Telus $38.6 million in support payments as part of the Canada Emergency Wage Subsidy (CEWS).

Since the beginning of the pandemic, the three companies have continued to pay out regular dividends to shareholders; Bell and Telus have announced increases to their annual payouts. Both Bell and Rogers have also laid off workers at their hard-hit media divisions.


Other large businesses have also paid out dividends while receiving CEWS support, including numerous companies in the oilpatch, auto-parts maker Linamar and furniture retailer Leon’s. (Torstar, the parent company of the Toronto Star, is among the recipients of the federal wage subsidy.)

Economists say the relief payments to large, profitable companies with ample access to credit illustrate problems in the way CEWS is designed, in these cases leading to benefits for shareholders but not necessarily targeted support for workers whose jobs are at risk. One Liberal MP is calling on the government to claw back payments from companies that have paid dividends.

“CEWS is sold as a wage subsidy, but it’s really a business expense subsidy,” said Amin Mawani, associate professor of taxation at the Schulich School of Business at York University.

Mawani has argued that Canada should consider a model where the government pays subsidies only in respect of employees who miss hours of work because of the pandemic. Under the current rules of the Canadian program, businesses with any level of revenue decline are eligible for at least some level of subsidy with respect to all their Canadian employees.

He said it is understandable that businesses would continue to pay dividends, which he described as a “cost of doing business” akin to paying interest to the bank on loans, but he questioned the need to hike payouts this year. “I don’t think shareholders were necessarily expecting an increase during the pandemic.”


De-fund The Legacy Media

Enough of the Corrupt Government Payouts to All Media Companies



The ability of journalists to report freely on matters of public interest is a crucial indicator of democracy.

A free press can inform citizens of their leaders’ successes or failures, convey the people’s needs and desires to government bodies, and provide a platform for the open exchange of information and ideas.

When media freedom is restricted, these vital functions break down, leading to poor decision-making and harmful outcomes for leaders and citizens alike.

When media freedom is purchased in bulk by controlling organizations or governments the clear and transparent news so vital to an informed public is biased towards what the controlling organization or government wants the citizens to have access to and also what they do not want them to have access to.
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7ECA wrote: Wed Feb 09, 2022 11:00 pm
Vaticinator wrote: Wed Feb 09, 2022 9:51 pm Unless it's 100%, neither he nor you can "know" you're protecting anyone, and if you said so, you'd be lying.
If all else fails, the final and apparently ultimate argument of the anti-vaccine crowd - if it's not 100%, gold plated, fool proof, sure fire, IT AIN'T GOOD ENOUGH! :goodman:

Give your head a shake, you're little more than a modern day luddite.
Ooooo, did someone just learn what a luddite is and want to use it in a sentence? You must be simple. I'm not saying less than 100% isn't good. I'm saying that because it doesn't offer 100% protection from transmission or infection, you cannot say that you "know" you're protecting anyone. That would be like playing Russian roulette and saying you "know" you're protected because not all of the chambers are full. You very well may not be. You have know way of knowing for sure. The difference isn't that subtle, surely you're not this dumb. The vaccinated currently account for a third of all covid deaths. Did they "know" they were protected?

You flaccid invertebrates can keep whinging all you want about needing your pathetic black face leader's lies-based policies to make you feel safe. People are waking up to reality. Try not to get too triggered by the first maskless face you see.
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Hi-Lighter wrote: Wed Feb 09, 2022 11:22 pm De-fund The Legacy Media
Print media is dying, due to reduced advertising revenue and declining subscriptions. Online media is a more profitable arena, but only if advertising is widely viewed - and the proliferation of adblocking software is a Catch-22 for media outlets. If users are able to block ads, they're more willing to spend time on sites viewing content - but if they block ads, that reduces revenue potential for said outlet. Sites that refuse to allow users to block ads, and force them to enable ads to view content ultimately lose viewership, but have a higher revenue potential due to advertising...

So, "free" online media is a money losing venture due to the above adblocking/not adblocking conundrum. Subscription based media is on as shaky ground as print media, because the vast majority of people are unwilling to pay to view news.

Government subsidies to industries such as the "legacy media" (gotta love the latest boogeyman phrase conjured up by the right) gives the wider industry the potential to maintain its existence without having to rely on advertising revenue to such a large degree. But, if the government does nothing and lets outlets fail (as though this was a pure capitalist market, which it is not nor ever has been) then sooner or later you're going to end up with a handful of large companies controlling the entire media sphere - which admittedly is essentially when we've got as is. As it stands, beyond the Centrist CBC (and yes, the CBC is largely a centrist outlet) you have a handful of very large centre-right to right wing media companies controlling the vast majority of media, be it online/print/television, etc. It's hardly a healthy and balanced market, and no form of government intervention is going to improve the landscape by expanding it.

As for "smearing" the "truckers", it's not exactly difficult to see this hodgepodge of loosely affiliated individuals and groups masquerading as a "popular movement" for what it is - a disorganized group with no centralized leadership and no ability to negotiate let alone make unified demands beyond "we get everything we want, with sprinkles on top; and even then we're not going to leave..." They've given themselves a black eye by the conduct of numerous people who've gone out of their way to be anything but cordial, negotiating in bad faith, pissing off the very same people they claim to be fighting for, etc.

The rest of the industry has been hard at work, doing their jobs and keeping their noses clean. Get back to fucking work already.
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Vaticinator wrote: Wed Feb 09, 2022 11:38 pm I'm not saying less than 100% isn't good. I'm saying that because it doesn't offer 100% protection from transmission or infection, you cannot say that you "know" you're protecting anyone.
You're contradicting yourself right off the bat. Either you're unwilling to admit that a vaccine can be less than 100% effective, and yet still maintain useful efficacy in the prevention of both illness and transmission. Or, you want 100% efficacy. Which is it?

And the vaccine(s) absolutely do protect people, because even if they do not entirely prevent infection they do result in a significantly lower incidence of severe illness and negative outcomes. The stats from BC are clear cut, with the unvaccinated being:

12 times more likely to be hospitalized.

27 times more likely to be in the ICU or CCU.

40 times more likely to die.

But hey, all or nothing is such a compellingly idiotic straw man...
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