Hi all,
how long can one let their class 1 lapse and still be evaluated against the renewal standards instead of the initial standards (which are usually more strict)?
Can you just contact a doc after 10 years for a renewal?
Many thanks,
When to redo initial class 1?
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When to redo initial class 1?
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Re: When to redo initial class 1?
I can't find a reference to different sets of standards for initial examinations and renewals, do you know where I can find it?
My renewals are typically shorter appointments, often lasting no more than a few minutes when I was younger. But that might be only because the doctor can see I've been coming frequently, not because of lower standards for renewal. I've gone to a new (to me) doctor and had a fairly thorough examination, too.
I stand to be corrected, but the best I can determine from tc.gc.ca is that it's still a renewal even if it has been 10 years since your last examination. The doctor might recognize that and examine you accordingly.
My renewals are typically shorter appointments, often lasting no more than a few minutes when I was younger. But that might be only because the doctor can see I've been coming frequently, not because of lower standards for renewal. I've gone to a new (to me) doctor and had a fairly thorough examination, too.
I stand to be corrected, but the best I can determine from tc.gc.ca is that it's still a renewal even if it has been 10 years since your last examination. The doctor might recognize that and examine you accordingly.
Re: When to redo initial class 1?
The standard of fitness is the same, but the “paperwork” is simpler. If your ADB says you hold a category 1 medical then it’s a renewal and the CAME will stamp your ADB. If it says something other than Category 1 it’s an upgrade and your paperwork goes to TC for review and you have to wait for a sticker.
You may also need a ECG and audiology, but you need those periodically anyway.
(A class 1 renewal would be a class 1 instructor rating renewal.)
You may also need a ECG and audiology, but you need those periodically anyway.
(A class 1 renewal would be a class 1 instructor rating renewal.)
DId you hear the one about the jurisprudence fetishist? He got off on a technicality.
Re: When to redo initial class 1?
Apologies, category 1 medical indeed.photofly wrote: ↑Fri Feb 11, 2022 5:13 am The standard of fitness is the same, but the “paperwork” is simpler. If your ADB says you hold a category 1 medical then it’s a renewal and the CAME will stamp your ADB. If it says something other than Category 1 it’s an upgrade and your paperwork goes to TC for review and you have to wait for a sticker.
You may also need a ECG and audiology, but you need those periodically anyway.
(A class 1 renewal would be a class 1 instructor rating renewal.)
If you don't renew your category 1 medical, how will tc decide when to send you a category 3 sticker? Or do you just have to make sure you hold a category 1 when renewing your adb to keep things quick and easy?
As an AvCanada discussion grows longer:
-the probability of 'entitlement' being mentioned, approaches 1
-one will be accused of using bad airmanship
-the probability of 'entitlement' being mentioned, approaches 1
-one will be accused of using bad airmanship
Re: When to redo initial class 1?
TC will only ever send you a sticker showing you have a category 3 medical when you actually have a category 3 medical. That would be when you applied for a category 3 medical to begin with, or (rarely) you expressly ask for your category 1 medical to be downgraded, perhaps because you have a condition that means you no longer qualify to hold a category 1 medical but can hold a category 3 medical. But you'd have to write to TC for that, or maybe ask your CAME at re-examination time.
Reminder: no medical has an "expiry" date. It shows a date of examination, and the law provides a duration after that for which it validates a licence. That duration depends on the category of licence you wish to pair with it and the age of the licence holder (and for the ATPL/CPL, the privileges you wish to exercise).
A category 1 medical for which the examination was performed 10 years ago is still a category 1 medical, but 10 years is outside the duration specified for it to validate any licence at all.
DId you hear the one about the jurisprudence fetishist? He got off on a technicality.
Re: When to redo initial class 1?
Last clarification question:
- You hold an ADB with category 1 medical
- Last medical examination was 2 years ago
- You apply for a new ADB
Will transport send you one with a category 1 medical printed in it?
As an AvCanada discussion grows longer:
-the probability of 'entitlement' being mentioned, approaches 1
-one will be accused of using bad airmanship
-the probability of 'entitlement' being mentioned, approaches 1
-one will be accused of using bad airmanship
Re: When to redo initial class 1?
Yes. People who haven't flown for decades get a shiny new ADB with their licence and medical printed in it, showing a date of examination 199x. They need a medical renewal, and a whatever training and flying to meet the recency requirements, then they're good to go.
DId you hear the one about the jurisprudence fetishist? He got off on a technicality.
Re: When to redo initial class 1?
I wanted to make sure I'd be fit to fly before I invested any money into it. I got perfect scores on everything except for the eye exam. I was able to read every single line of the exam except for the very last line on ONE of my eyes. I've had what I thought was 20/20 vision my entire life (which I do when I use both eyes) and now if I want to be ATP I have to get glasses?! So. Freaking. Close.
