"should" is a great word. however the law doesn't recognize "should" And I doubt the law is gonna change just so people can wine and bitch on avcanada. Fact is avcanada can do what he wants. It's his board. Suck it up.Jet Dog wrote:Dust Devil you missed my point, its NOT avcanada itself making the statements or the owner of avcanada, but the USERS posting the comments that who should and only should be prositcuted..... so yes if YOU shat on my lawn you would get sued not avcanada cause YOU said YOU shat on my lawn on an avcanada post. And please clean it up... the stench is really bothersome, thanks!
Filing suit against AvCanada.
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lol...nobody reads my posts...Right Seat Captain wrote:So what shoould AvCanada say when the lawyers come a knockin'?Jet Dog wrote:Dust Devil you missed my point, its NOT avcanada itself making the statements or the owner of avcanada, but the USERS posting the comments that who should and only should be prositcuted..... so yes if YOU shat on my lawn you would get sued not avcanada cause YOU said YOU shat on my lawn on an avcanada post. And please clean it up... the stench is really bothersome, thanks!
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Word my brother! I hear your voice!hazatude wrote:lol...nobody reads my posts...Right Seat Captain wrote:So what shoould AvCanada say when the lawyers come a knockin'?Jet Dog wrote:Dust Devil you missed my point, its NOT avcanada itself making the statements or the owner of avcanada, but the USERS posting the comments that who should and only should be prositcuted..... so yes if YOU shat on my lawn you would get sued not avcanada cause YOU said YOU shat on my lawn on an avcanada post. And please clean it up... the stench is really bothersome, thanks!
Give them your IP info?
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A parent's only as good as their dumbest kid. If one wins a Nobel Prize but the other gets robbed by a hooker, you failed
A parent's only as good as their dumbest kid. If one wins a Nobel Prize but the other gets robbed by a hooker, you failed
Would be interesting to hear someone with some actual qualification(s) speak on this issue. Seems that holding a web site operator responsible for comments made on the site is about as reasonable as holding the phone company responsible for the conversations held on their phone lines.
In any event, aside from a threatening letter or scare-tactic phone call from a lawyer's office, what's the likelihood that someone (or a company) named in a thread would have the time, interest, and most importantly resources to pursue such a claim? Unlikely in the extreme, I would guess.
Further, everyone knows that the Internet is full of crackpots, so who's going to actually give any credit to allegations made on an (effectively) anonymous web site?
In any event, aside from a threatening letter or scare-tactic phone call from a lawyer's office, what's the likelihood that someone (or a company) named in a thread would have the time, interest, and most importantly resources to pursue such a claim? Unlikely in the extreme, I would guess.
Further, everyone knows that the Internet is full of crackpots, so who's going to actually give any credit to allegations made on an (effectively) anonymous web site?
Avcanada
After being married to a Canadian for three years and after spending some quality time in Canada over the same period of time, there is one observation about Canadians in general that is amazingly impressive.
Canadians are the most wonderfully politically correct people I have ever encountered in my life. Most of the time this is viewed by outsiders like myself as extremely positive. By being so politically correct, Canadians are generally non-confrontational in their outlook towards issues such as race relations (how you handle your native population and the flexibility of your immigration policies come to mind) and relationships with regard to each other and companies or organisations in the aviation realm. With regard to the latter, I specifically refer to the sensitivity exhibited when dealing with "bad avaiation companies" or specific individuals that negatively impact on the industry. Making mention of such individuals or their companies is a big "no no" which could potentially lead to libel. This is admirable in the sense that it significantly reduces the potential for unecessary antagonism and aggression on a public forum.
Having spent most of my life in Africa where we "call a spade a spade", I find this a quite an adaption. In South Africa, our political correctness was only addressed on the international stage late in 1994 and so in a sense, we are relative new kids on the block and there is much we can learn from the Canadians in this respect.
But, sometimes I think that this wonderfull trait of yours lets you down in many ways. Two things in particular come to mind. I understand the AvCanada sensitivity to possible legal action in the face of libel but I think someone has to grow the balls to call that spade a spade. Feel free to express your opinions of people / organisations / companies as you please. It is your democratic right. Tell others on this forum exactly what you think about "Dickwad and Coy" and the people who manage it. Let them get the wakeup call they deserve irrespective of the fact that the criticism may well be prejudiced. If these people threaten legal action, tell them to go ahead and stand by your opinion. Surely AvCanada cannot be held responsible for the individual opinions expressed? Maybe I am being naive here but then again, I do not profess to be an expert on Canadian law.
Secondly, I am amazed by the sensitivity surrounding racial issues. I feel that Canadians, while being so politically correct and "tip toeing" around racial issues, end up drawing the short straw. I do not pretend to have an understanding of the "native / indian/ indigeneous people" issue but at some time, Canadians have to can the guilt trip they seem to one with regard to these people. Many times, I hear about how the "natives" are spoon fed and cared for at the expense of the tax payers while these same "natives" piss it all away up against the wall. Dump them in the deep end and let them swim and stop preventing their drowning only to get slapped around when they recover.
Another thing that really stands out for me as a foreigner to Canada and Toronto in particular, is the amount of political sensitivity applied to the crime problems in the City. These criminals that are a plague to the city are being treated like juvenile kids instead of the thieving, murdering, and fraudulent f-cks that they are. Stop calling them criminals in the broad sense and name them for what they are. The majority of them are black Jamaicans...there, I said it, now let them sue me. These bastards are turning the streets of Toronto in their shithole drug dens and shooting galleries. Take care, for very soon, they will get the upper hand over the "politically correct" police and city bosses. Here, I can only point out how the Nigerians have taken over large portions of Johannesburg and Durban, 2 main metropolitan cities in South Africa. Canadians will suffer the same fate if the immigration laws are not tightened and if the issues are not addressed as they are. The politicians need to stop mind f-cking the masses with their "political sensitivity". I recently took a look at the Q107 website and went into the "Toronto`s most wanted" section. Most of these wastes of space are Jamaican immigrants so why do they still flow into the country? Whay do people talk around the issue? Why not clean out the problem and deport these f-ckers en-masse or get the damn peace time army to support a police clean up? From what I have been told, Vancouver and other cities have similar problems with other groupings. Call a spade a spade and deal with it before it is too late.
Maybe what I have said will be deemed totally off the wall and get "edited" by the powers that be but I thought it relevant to point out this issue based on one or two of the threads I read tonight. This entire thread probably belongs on another forum as well.
Canada is a wonderfull country with unbelievable opportunities. You all need to preserve the country for all the hard working and honest people that constitute the majority. I have found most Canadians to be friendly, down to earth, warm and hospitable people but call a spade a spade once in a while.
Canadians are the most wonderfully politically correct people I have ever encountered in my life. Most of the time this is viewed by outsiders like myself as extremely positive. By being so politically correct, Canadians are generally non-confrontational in their outlook towards issues such as race relations (how you handle your native population and the flexibility of your immigration policies come to mind) and relationships with regard to each other and companies or organisations in the aviation realm. With regard to the latter, I specifically refer to the sensitivity exhibited when dealing with "bad avaiation companies" or specific individuals that negatively impact on the industry. Making mention of such individuals or their companies is a big "no no" which could potentially lead to libel. This is admirable in the sense that it significantly reduces the potential for unecessary antagonism and aggression on a public forum.
Having spent most of my life in Africa where we "call a spade a spade", I find this a quite an adaption. In South Africa, our political correctness was only addressed on the international stage late in 1994 and so in a sense, we are relative new kids on the block and there is much we can learn from the Canadians in this respect.
But, sometimes I think that this wonderfull trait of yours lets you down in many ways. Two things in particular come to mind. I understand the AvCanada sensitivity to possible legal action in the face of libel but I think someone has to grow the balls to call that spade a spade. Feel free to express your opinions of people / organisations / companies as you please. It is your democratic right. Tell others on this forum exactly what you think about "Dickwad and Coy" and the people who manage it. Let them get the wakeup call they deserve irrespective of the fact that the criticism may well be prejudiced. If these people threaten legal action, tell them to go ahead and stand by your opinion. Surely AvCanada cannot be held responsible for the individual opinions expressed? Maybe I am being naive here but then again, I do not profess to be an expert on Canadian law.
Secondly, I am amazed by the sensitivity surrounding racial issues. I feel that Canadians, while being so politically correct and "tip toeing" around racial issues, end up drawing the short straw. I do not pretend to have an understanding of the "native / indian/ indigeneous people" issue but at some time, Canadians have to can the guilt trip they seem to one with regard to these people. Many times, I hear about how the "natives" are spoon fed and cared for at the expense of the tax payers while these same "natives" piss it all away up against the wall. Dump them in the deep end and let them swim and stop preventing their drowning only to get slapped around when they recover.
Another thing that really stands out for me as a foreigner to Canada and Toronto in particular, is the amount of political sensitivity applied to the crime problems in the City. These criminals that are a plague to the city are being treated like juvenile kids instead of the thieving, murdering, and fraudulent f-cks that they are. Stop calling them criminals in the broad sense and name them for what they are. The majority of them are black Jamaicans...there, I said it, now let them sue me. These bastards are turning the streets of Toronto in their shithole drug dens and shooting galleries. Take care, for very soon, they will get the upper hand over the "politically correct" police and city bosses. Here, I can only point out how the Nigerians have taken over large portions of Johannesburg and Durban, 2 main metropolitan cities in South Africa. Canadians will suffer the same fate if the immigration laws are not tightened and if the issues are not addressed as they are. The politicians need to stop mind f-cking the masses with their "political sensitivity". I recently took a look at the Q107 website and went into the "Toronto`s most wanted" section. Most of these wastes of space are Jamaican immigrants so why do they still flow into the country? Whay do people talk around the issue? Why not clean out the problem and deport these f-ckers en-masse or get the damn peace time army to support a police clean up? From what I have been told, Vancouver and other cities have similar problems with other groupings. Call a spade a spade and deal with it before it is too late.
Maybe what I have said will be deemed totally off the wall and get "edited" by the powers that be but I thought it relevant to point out this issue based on one or two of the threads I read tonight. This entire thread probably belongs on another forum as well.
Canada is a wonderfull country with unbelievable opportunities. You all need to preserve the country for all the hard working and honest people that constitute the majority. I have found most Canadians to be friendly, down to earth, warm and hospitable people but call a spade a spade once in a while.
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Excellent post, Canada will soon have many Johannesburgs with the same fifty to seventy five killings a day.
And yes a crimminal is a crimminal, just because they have a different skin color does not make them non crimminals.
You are correct, we have more than our share of ( "NIGERIANS ") in Canada.
Excellent post, Canada will soon have many Johannesburgs with the same fifty to seventy five killings a day.
And yes a crimminal is a crimminal, just because they have a different skin color does not make them non crimminals.
You are correct, we have more than our share of ( "NIGERIANS ") in Canada.
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After over a half a century of flying no one ever died because of my decision not to fly.
After over a half a century of flying no one ever died because of my decision not to fly.
When avcanadians registered, they agreed to the following:
If avcanada receives a request to cease and desist from a complainant, failure to remove the material may lead to avcanada being named as a co-defendant and even if the case against them is thrown out, there are still costs in hiring counsel and lodging a statement of defence.You agree not to post any abusive, obscene, vulgar, slanderous, hateful, threatening, sexually-oriented or any other material that may violate any applicable laws. Doing so may lead to you being immediately and permanently banned (and your service provider being informed). The IP address of all posts is recorded to aid in enforcing these conditions. You agree that the webmaster, administrator and moderators of this forum have the right to remove, edit, move or close any topic at any time should they see fit.
just a note in the legal case that was posted. The forums that hosted the libel weren't sued. They sued anonymous users. If Avcanada chose not to keep records of IP address it would become totally impossible to ever track down users. Even with records being kept has hazatude said, we could all bounce through proxies in Iran. Go ahead, call the shaw, tell him that you want my IP.
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Because, Springbok, That would be wrong.Springbok wrote:Stop calling them criminals in the broad sense and name them for what they are. The majority of them are black Jamaicans...there, I said it, now let them sue me. These bastards are turning the streets of Toronto in their shithole drug dens and shooting galleries.[...] Most of these wastes of space are Jamaican immigrants so why do they still flow into the country? Whay do people talk around the issue? Why not clean out the problem and deport these f-ckers en-masse.
Discrimination of that kind is intolerable to the majority of Canadians (I believe) because it's wrong. You may be right that a disproportionate number of Jamaicans are among the criminals, but there are still many very decent, law abiding Jamaican immigrants here, and declaring them all unwelcome would be absurd!
Discrimination - or punishment, as you're suggesting - based solely on race, or country of origin is nuts, and Canadians aren't about to stoop to that level.
Mitch
Mitch,
Please do not get me wrong when I name the Jamaicans as the main criminal element in Toronto. I am by no means making a general disrimination against them. The law biding Jamaican citizens who are in the majority are showing some solidarity in favour of slamming their own people who are part of this main stream criminal element. They even undertake protest marches against their own who are engaged in criminal activity. There are good and bad in all of us but sort out the bad.
Do a massive clean up of the criminal elements and bad suburbs which happen to Jamaican. Tighten the immigration laws against those elements posing the threat. In this case it happens to be Jamaican. If it happened to be the Chinese or the South Africans doing this, give them the same treatment. It is not discrimination, it is self preservation. Move away from the sensitivity and deal with the problem. I know a Toronto cop that told me that there are areas of Toronto that they are hesitant to enter to deal with crime because of the Jamaican element that screams "persecution" or discrimination" every time it happens. WTF....Grow some balls and get in there and sort out the f-ckers, it is CRIME getting the attention and NOT the race being persecuted. The quicker these lessons are learnt, the better off all Canadians will be.
I just used Totonto as an example and I know a little about it. People must not be afraid to tackle the issue instead of talking around it. That is my point. As I mentioned, in South Africa we have the damn Nigerians who are bad news. Our immigration laws are a joke and these bastards are taking over our cities with drugs, prostitution, vehicle hijacking...you name it. South African cops are only now trying to sort the shit out and are for the first time calling it a "Nigerian" problem. This late wake up call will however make the solution that more difficult.
It would be a great pity to see this in Canada. Did you know that Canada has tightened up their immigration laws and they have strict requirements with regard to all African countries including South Africa. We are Commonwealth members but we still have to go through the extensive visa requirements, have sponsors, return air tickets....and this is just to visit Canada. The reason Canada is so strict.......to keep the bad African black elements from gaining uncontrolled entry into the country. The latter are the words of one of your High Commissioners. This is not racist is it? It is practical and responsible. As a white minority South African, I cannot cry racism now can I? My black brothers who constitute 99,9% of all the crime perpetrated in South Africa are being targeted and I am included because I am South African as well. That is not racist, it is life and I just have to bear with Immigration Canada on this issue and go through the process of becoming a good citizen like everyone else.
These bad Jamaican elements should be blocked just as the Africans are. In fact, all Caribbean countries should get the same treatment. Toronto crime will then only start to drop coupled with some aggressive policing.
Please do not get me wrong when I name the Jamaicans as the main criminal element in Toronto. I am by no means making a general disrimination against them. The law biding Jamaican citizens who are in the majority are showing some solidarity in favour of slamming their own people who are part of this main stream criminal element. They even undertake protest marches against their own who are engaged in criminal activity. There are good and bad in all of us but sort out the bad.
Do a massive clean up of the criminal elements and bad suburbs which happen to Jamaican. Tighten the immigration laws against those elements posing the threat. In this case it happens to be Jamaican. If it happened to be the Chinese or the South Africans doing this, give them the same treatment. It is not discrimination, it is self preservation. Move away from the sensitivity and deal with the problem. I know a Toronto cop that told me that there are areas of Toronto that they are hesitant to enter to deal with crime because of the Jamaican element that screams "persecution" or discrimination" every time it happens. WTF....Grow some balls and get in there and sort out the f-ckers, it is CRIME getting the attention and NOT the race being persecuted. The quicker these lessons are learnt, the better off all Canadians will be.
I just used Totonto as an example and I know a little about it. People must not be afraid to tackle the issue instead of talking around it. That is my point. As I mentioned, in South Africa we have the damn Nigerians who are bad news. Our immigration laws are a joke and these bastards are taking over our cities with drugs, prostitution, vehicle hijacking...you name it. South African cops are only now trying to sort the shit out and are for the first time calling it a "Nigerian" problem. This late wake up call will however make the solution that more difficult.
It would be a great pity to see this in Canada. Did you know that Canada has tightened up their immigration laws and they have strict requirements with regard to all African countries including South Africa. We are Commonwealth members but we still have to go through the extensive visa requirements, have sponsors, return air tickets....and this is just to visit Canada. The reason Canada is so strict.......to keep the bad African black elements from gaining uncontrolled entry into the country. The latter are the words of one of your High Commissioners. This is not racist is it? It is practical and responsible. As a white minority South African, I cannot cry racism now can I? My black brothers who constitute 99,9% of all the crime perpetrated in South Africa are being targeted and I am included because I am South African as well. That is not racist, it is life and I just have to bear with Immigration Canada on this issue and go through the process of becoming a good citizen like everyone else.
These bad Jamaican elements should be blocked just as the Africans are. In fact, all Caribbean countries should get the same treatment. Toronto crime will then only start to drop coupled with some aggressive policing.
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Would you care to explain this comment as I am afraid that you have lost me on this one!grouchy wrote:Gee, and I almost fell for your sob story about the Turks and Caicos. So innocent, so innocent.
What do you mean about "sob" story in the TCI. Are you perhaps referring to the sabotage and destruction of aircraft and equipment? Are you perhaps refering to threats of violence and acts of intimidation against us? Or maybe you are insinuating that we deserve this or perhaps you are trying to say that it happened to us for a reason by making your "innocent, so innocent" comment?
OH, wait aminute, maybe you are Jamaican or from Caribbean descent and you take offence to my comments?
Please help me to understand where you are coming from. Or maybe I will just give you the e-mail addressesof the British Governor here on the TCI and the address of the Canadian Deputy High Commissioner in Jamaica so that you can be in a comfortable position to verify MY SOB STORY!
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Here you go dipshit, call these guys up for the "other side of the story":grouchy wrote:What I meant was old attitudes don't often change and if you "called a spade a spade" in the T&C's, that might not have been too helpful to your cause. There are always two sides to every story and we have heard yours.
Mr Tom Swann, Director of Civil Aviation
Mr George Garland, Deputy Director of Civl Aviation
His Excellency, the Governor, Mr. Richard Tuware
Mr Joe Swann, Principle Secretary in the Ministry of Social Services
Dr. Patrick Prince: Chief Pshycologist TCI Government
The Hon. Deputy Chief Minister, Floyd B. Hall
Capt Giles Porter, UK CAA based in Antigua
Go get the other side of the fucking story then and get back to me. All their contact details should be on the www under the TCI or go to Cable and Wireless site for the islands. It will give you something to do instead of spewing shit, going off the thread and getting personal about me. Government can be contacted on 649 946 2081.
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Here's the whole story about what goes on forums, etc. in Canada.hazatude wrote:So there is legal precedent on internet messageboard lawsuits?
Please give me some details...
Something is published on the Internet in Canada when it is viewed. Each seperate viewing of a page is a "publication"
It is only libel that takes place on the Internet. Slander involves only the spoken word.
The rules about defamation and the rights of a defamed party to damages aare exactly the same as if published in a newspaper, with the following exceptions:
An ISP is not liable for damages until it is notified of the libellous material and does not remove it from its servers. But once that occurs, the ISP can be sued.
The liability of a forum owner can vary. If the forum is one where there is much watching over posts and editing, then the owner, ironically, is more in danger of a libel suit than the opposite, a completely open forum where anything can be said and there is little to no moderation. A heavily moderated forum can be sued when a libellous post has been on for a relatively short time and has been left up after what would be considered a reasonable time for the moderators/editors to have caught it.
On an unmoderated forum, the owner becomes responsible upon being notified of the objectionable material.
To sue in Canada, the law is that you must sue in the place where you have your reputation. It is reputation that suffers the damage from libel.
Truth is a defense against libel. Lawyers would always advise you to never plead truth. You have to prove truth in all possible meanings of the statement. For instance, if you say billy buckshot is a criminal based on knowing that 20 years ago he was convicted of shoplifting, you would be ill advised to plead truth, unless you can prove he still is a criminal. Technically, you might be right, but the inference in such a comment is that people must still consider him to be a criminal so far as his present day reputation goes.
The problem with pleading truth is that once you have plead it and lost, you are then liable to triple the ordinary damages. Courts don't like the idea of someone defaming someone, then defaming them again by saying what they said was true.
The only other defenses are called qualified privelege and absolute privelege. You have absolute privelege when you report on any documents filed in a court, any testimony in a court, or any proceedings of parliament or a legislature. Some say that reports of municipal councils are covered under this privelege, others not.
You have qualified privelege if you make a fair comment on a matter of public interest to an audience with a legitimate interest in what is being conveyed. The major qualifier is that there must not be malice in the statement.
None of this matters from the forum owners perspective. The owner will always be faced with excessive legal bills trying to defend what some anonymous poster put up. And for what.
Defamation is anything said about a person to his or her detriment. Outside of politicians and others who hold themselves out to public scrutiny, private people and companies are entitled to the protection of the defamation laws.
It is an act of rather disgraceful cowardice to blacken the name of some individual or company from the anonymity of some false name on the Internet. Cowardice is never a good quality in a pilot or in any person. It certainly isn't something a forum owner should be asked to pay for.
I heard ATC calling for an" Air Idiot "flight cannot remember the number but we laughed a lot at that one
Heard some good stuff about "Air Baffoon" can we say that eh cause not everyone knows who they are and even some of their pilots do not answer to Baffoon flight where are you ???
Is 'Fist Air' too much of a deviance from their real name

My favourite is not an airline but an airport where a pilot can "WIN A PIG"

Heard some good stuff about "Air Baffoon" can we say that eh cause not everyone knows who they are and even some of their pilots do not answer to Baffoon flight where are you ???
Is 'Fist Air' too much of a deviance from their real name
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I hate posting in the General Forum because people may think I have something to say of moderate (excuse the pun) intelligence.
Since I’m here I’ll say this. This site is a tool for information exchange. The nation’s best in my humble opinion. Joe has maintained the consistency of his idea of providing a FREE source on the web where there is no other that can compare to the centralization of this aviation community. Where else would you go to get almost real time information about an accident and those involved and those want to know if the occupants are safe? Also as easy as whom is hiring or direct dialog with ATC regarding certain reg’s and procedures?
Avcanada is just as essential to this industry in Canada as are the people who work in the Aviation community.
Those that wish to dismantle it are no better than small minded fascist governments that had books burned in the town square.
There are gems in the rubbish…you just have to know how to find them. You can start by not doing a search of all my posts.
Since I’m here I’ll say this. This site is a tool for information exchange. The nation’s best in my humble opinion. Joe has maintained the consistency of his idea of providing a FREE source on the web where there is no other that can compare to the centralization of this aviation community. Where else would you go to get almost real time information about an accident and those involved and those want to know if the occupants are safe? Also as easy as whom is hiring or direct dialog with ATC regarding certain reg’s and procedures?
Avcanada is just as essential to this industry in Canada as are the people who work in the Aviation community.
Those that wish to dismantle it are no better than small minded fascist governments that had books burned in the town square.
There are gems in the rubbish…you just have to know how to find them. You can start by not doing a search of all my posts.
Rule no 1 of Facism - control the information!
Lawyers and lawsuits are just modern day henchmen sent out to intimidate/destroy the free thinkers and dissenters amongst us.
It's all about golf balls with ensignia's from a little guy from Shawinagin....and the cowboy hat wearing pancake flippin Westerner ain't yearning for lessons in that department.
Fight the power!
The hardest part about organizing anarchists is they don't follow rules.
Sue that...
Lawyers and lawsuits are just modern day henchmen sent out to intimidate/destroy the free thinkers and dissenters amongst us.
It's all about golf balls with ensignia's from a little guy from Shawinagin....and the cowboy hat wearing pancake flippin Westerner ain't yearning for lessons in that department.
Fight the power!
The hardest part about organizing anarchists is they don't follow rules.
Sue that...
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Too true man. I had that happen to me years ago, yet I still feel that the BS (coincidentally his initials) were blown out of context. Both employees and employers can bend the truth to their benefit. One has to know when to draw the line, a cavalier approach will get you in trouble..........a web based forum, I see now, is nowhere near the line. Keep a lid on it guys.If Avcanada was around years ago I would have posted $hit about that company even though I deserved getting the axe. It only took me years to realise that I did deserve it. However after years of growing up it was probably the best thing that ever happened to me. Lets just say I needed knocked down a peg or 2.
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Just one question to this writer...are you in charge of people's lives anywhere in the sky? Or is that just something you aspire to?FamilyGuy wrote:Rule no 1 of Facism - control the information!
Lawyers and lawsuits are just modern day henchmen sent out to intimidate/destroy the free thinkers and dissenters amongst us.
It's all about golf balls with ensignia's from a little guy from Shawinagin....and the cowboy hat wearing pancake flippin Westerner ain't yearning for lessons in that department.
Fight the power!![]()
The hardest part about organizing anarchists is they don't follow rules.![]()
Sue that...


