Bases and equipment

Discuss topics relating to Jazz Aviation LP.

Moderators: sky's the limit, sepia, Sulako, lilfssister, North Shore, I WAS Birddog

User avatar
RoAF-Mig21
Rank 6
Rank 6
Posts: 466
Joined: Sun Sep 05, 2021 6:43 am

Re: Bases and equipment

Post by RoAF-Mig21 »

link821 wrote: Thu Mar 17, 2022 12:51 pm Is commuting from yvr to yyz or yul survivable ?
It's hard to commute when you have a set schedule. If you're on reserve, it's impossible. You need to be within 2 hrs of the "crew room".

There are senior FOs at Jazz that won't upgrade because they live further than 2 hrs away, and if they get that left seat (as a junior capt. on reserve), it would mean they have to have some sort of crash pad / rental unit near their base. Any money you'd make extra you'll spend it on that.

Just a thought...

I don't recommend commuting, unless it's for a very short period of time. It gets old very quick. Take it from me.
---------- ADS -----------
 
superbilly24
Rank 1
Rank 1
Posts: 48
Joined: Sat Sep 15, 2012 9:55 am

Re: Bases and equipment

Post by superbilly24 »

aya123 wrote: Mon Apr 04, 2022 9:58 am Anyone get an invite for the sim eval yet?
I got an invite for a sim eval in YYZ at the end of April. They said it was in a Dash 300 sim.
---------- ADS -----------
 
hsilgnepilot
Rank 3
Rank 3
Posts: 128
Joined: Mon Oct 29, 2018 5:30 pm

Re: Bases and equipment

Post by hsilgnepilot »

superbilly24 wrote: Wed Apr 06, 2022 10:34 am
aya123 wrote: Mon Apr 04, 2022 9:58 am Anyone get an invite for the sim eval yet?
I got an invite for a sim eval in YYZ at the end of April. They said it was in a Dash 300 sim.
I got one as well. Second last week of April. Same thing, YYZ DH8 sim.
---------- ADS -----------
 
tango308
Rank 3
Rank 3
Posts: 120
Joined: Fri Jan 27, 2017 8:43 am

Re: Bases and equipment

Post by tango308 »

Congrats to both of you. Probably is the CAE sim that Jazz use to operate before retiring the type.

Best advise I can give is to make use of your PM, keep him busy.
---------- ADS -----------
 
Transition9er2
Rank 4
Rank 4
Posts: 239
Joined: Thu Apr 26, 2018 8:18 pm

Re: Bases and equipment

Post by Transition9er2 »

With the -8 sim in YVR going unused as well, I wouldn’t be surprised if they maximize these sims in both cities to run the sim evals. Significantly better equipment than when I did it that’s for sure!

Good luck to all moving through the process, and yes, utilize your PM to the max.

T.
---------- ADS -----------
 
702pipeliner
Rank 2
Rank 2
Posts: 78
Joined: Wed Mar 13, 2019 9:23 am

Re: Bases and equipment

Post by 702pipeliner »

hsilgnepilot wrote: Wed Apr 06, 2022 12:31 pm
superbilly24 wrote: Wed Apr 06, 2022 10:34 am
aya123 wrote: Mon Apr 04, 2022 9:58 am Anyone get an invite for the sim eval yet?
I got an invite for a sim eval in YYZ at the end of April. They said it was in a Dash 300 sim.
I got one as well. Second last week of April. Same thing, YYZ DH8 sim.
How Long did you you have to wait from the interview to when they invited you if I may ask?
---------- ADS -----------
 
superbilly24
Rank 1
Rank 1
Posts: 48
Joined: Sat Sep 15, 2012 9:55 am

Re: Bases and equipment

Post by superbilly24 »

702pipeliner wrote: Thu Apr 07, 2022 1:46 pm
hsilgnepilot wrote: Wed Apr 06, 2022 12:31 pm
superbilly24 wrote: Wed Apr 06, 2022 10:34 am

I got an invite for a sim eval in YYZ at the end of April. They said it was in a Dash 300 sim.
I got one as well. Second last week of April. Same thing, YYZ DH8 sim.
How Long did you you have to wait from the interview to when they invited you if I may ask?
It was about 2 weeks for me.
---------- ADS -----------
 
hsilgnepilot
Rank 3
Rank 3
Posts: 128
Joined: Mon Oct 29, 2018 5:30 pm

Re: Bases and equipment

Post by hsilgnepilot »

702pipeliner wrote: Thu Apr 07, 2022 1:46 pm
hsilgnepilot wrote: Wed Apr 06, 2022 12:31 pm
superbilly24 wrote: Wed Apr 06, 2022 10:34 am

I got an invite for a sim eval in YYZ at the end of April. They said it was in a Dash 300 sim.
I got one as well. Second last week of April. Same thing, YYZ DH8 sim.
How Long did you you have to wait from the interview to when they invited you if I may ask?
5 days from interview to sim eval invite.
---------- ADS -----------
 
TrustinThrust
Rank 1
Rank 1
Posts: 21
Joined: Wed Apr 12, 2017 10:55 am

Re: Bases and equipment

Post by TrustinThrust »

Most of the hiring being done will be for spots on the RJ and Q. YYZ Q flying is a shadow of what it used to be.
Very little ots hiring expected for the Emb.
---------- ADS -----------
 
the-minister31
Rank 4
Rank 4
Posts: 215
Joined: Tue Sep 10, 2019 9:08 am

Re: Bases and equipment

Post by the-minister31 »

TrustinThrust wrote: Mon Apr 11, 2022 1:06 pm Most of the hiring being done will be for spots on the RJ and Q. YYZ Q flying is a shadow of what it used to be.
Very little ots hiring expected for the Emb.
Yyz only or yul too?
---------- ADS -----------
 
User avatar
RoAF-Mig21
Rank 6
Rank 6
Posts: 466
Joined: Sun Sep 05, 2021 6:43 am

Re: Bases and equipment

Post by RoAF-Mig21 »

TrustinThrust wrote: Mon Apr 11, 2022 1:06 pm Very little ots hiring expected for the Emb.
Interesting you say that. May I ask why? It's not like the Embraer is a "senior" aircraft any more than the Q or the RJ (for junior F/Os. When it comes to Captain seniority it's a whole different thing). I think it's the luck of the draw. Whatever spots will be available will be given away to new hires.

The fact that the Embraer is only in YYZ and YUL it makes it "a bit" junior because most pilots that want to live out West will not go for the Embraer. If you're not sure what you want to do with your life (living wise), picking the RJ would be a good decision, because it's at all four bases, it has decent and varied routes.

Even if you get YUL RJ, you can bid YYC and get it eventually. If you bid the Embraer, you're more or less stuck on it for 4 years and you'll have to fly out of the Eastern bases.
---------- ADS -----------
 
rudder
Rank 11
Rank 11
Posts: 4109
Joined: Wed Mar 08, 2006 12:10 pm

Re: Bases and equipment

Post by rudder »

RoAF-Mig21 wrote: Tue Apr 12, 2022 5:43 am
TrustinThrust wrote: Mon Apr 11, 2022 1:06 pm Very little ots hiring expected for the Emb.
Interesting you say that. May I ask why? It's not like the Embraer is a "senior" aircraft any more than the Q or the RJ (for junior F/Os. When it comes to Captain seniority it's a whole different thing). I think it's the luck of the draw. Whatever spots will be available will be given away to new hires.

The fact that the Embraer is only in YYZ and YUL it makes it "a bit" junior because most pilots that want to live out West will not go for the Embraer. If you're not sure what you want to do with your life (living wise), picking the RJ would be a good decision, because it's at all four bases, it has decent and varied routes.

Even if you get YUL RJ, you can bid YYC and get it eventually. If you bid the Embraer, you're more or less stuck on it for 4 years and you'll have to fly out of the Eastern bases.
Current plan is no new-hire spots on E175 before the fall. This is largely due to no training space available on that SIM.

Will be interesting if it develops that a large number of departures between June-September for AC are E175 pilots (all flow based on Jazz seniority. No reserved seniority numbers at AC so no deferral option). Regardless, there may be departures of E175 pilots to Porter although that timeline may be less certain.

As you mentioned, Vacancies filled in-house first (frozen pilots excepted). There are also pilots with reinstatement rights. Still, I would expect that there will likely be some E175 FO vacancies that are unfilled after the August equipment bid.
---------- ADS -----------
 
Outlaw58
Rank 6
Rank 6
Posts: 451
Joined: Thu Jan 16, 2014 11:49 pm

Re: Bases and equipment

Post by Outlaw58 »

rudder wrote: Tue Apr 12, 2022 7:35 am

Current plan is no new-hire spots on E175 before the fall. This is largely due to no training space available on that SIM.

This is spot on.

Even the next bid will not change this dynamic much. A lot of pilots operating the E175 right now are doing so on temp basis pending the training of the pilots who were awarded it in the last bid. For the time being, the company has a way to mitigate the vacancies created by departure and next bid award by metering the movement of pilots who were forced off the E175. That and it is safe to expect that some of those temp position may be able to hold the E75 on the next bid.

For all these reasons, do not expect seeing NH on E75 for a while.

58
---------- ADS -----------
 
User avatar
RoAF-Mig21
Rank 6
Rank 6
Posts: 466
Joined: Sun Sep 05, 2021 6:43 am

Re: Bases and equipment

Post by RoAF-Mig21 »

Rudder & Outlaw,

Thanks for that detailed info. That makes sense.

Things are a bit different with this pandemic and all the issues it caused (everyone). I imagine once the industry goes back to some sort of normality, the E175 (slots) will be like every other airplane at Jazz, available based on movement, retirements, transfer, etc.
---------- ADS -----------
 
Babar350
Rank 4
Rank 4
Posts: 238
Joined: Sun Apr 12, 2015 5:36 pm

Re: Bases and equipment

Post by Babar350 »

Seems AC is hiring.
is there any new equipment bid for 2022?
---------- ADS -----------
 
the-minister31
Rank 4
Rank 4
Posts: 215
Joined: Tue Sep 10, 2019 9:08 am

Re: Bases and equipment

Post by the-minister31 »

Babar350 wrote: Sat Apr 23, 2022 7:19 pm Seems AC is hiring.
is there any new equipment bid for 2022?
As of right now, there will be one in august.

Any idea what bases/equipment will be offered in the first GS?
---------- ADS -----------
 
rudder
Rank 11
Rank 11
Posts: 4109
Joined: Wed Mar 08, 2006 12:10 pm

Re: Bases and equipment

Post by rudder »

Babar350 wrote: Sat Apr 23, 2022 7:19 pm Seems AC is hiring.
is there any new equipment bid for 2022?
Attrition vacancies to AC (or elsewhere) can be filled at company discretion.

There will be an equipment bid in August that will include an ‘AC buffer’ that will factor in AC attrition resulting in significant hiring at Jazz.

Jazz has already begun preemptive hiring staring in May.
---------- ADS -----------
 
rudder
Rank 11
Rank 11
Posts: 4109
Joined: Wed Mar 08, 2006 12:10 pm

Re: Bases and equipment

Post by rudder »

the-minister31 wrote: Sun Apr 24, 2022 5:21 am
Any idea what bases/equipment will be offered in the first GS?
Current plan is no E175 FO awards to new-hires prior to Fall 2022. This is due to simulator and training resource availability.

So one can anticipate Q400 and CRJ FO vacancies for new-hires. Guessing most bases available. If your first choice base is not available, make sure to pick equipment that is staffed on your desired base and reflect that in your standing bid so that you will be eligible for a follow on award within seniority (training freeze applies to equipment, not base).

Good luck to all.
---------- ADS -----------
 
the-minister31
Rank 4
Rank 4
Posts: 215
Joined: Tue Sep 10, 2019 9:08 am

Re: Bases and equipment

Post by the-minister31 »

rudder wrote: Sun Apr 24, 2022 6:27 am
the-minister31 wrote: Sun Apr 24, 2022 5:21 am
Any idea what bases/equipment will be offered in the first GS?
Current plan is no E175 FO awards to new-hires prior to Fall 2022. This is due to simulator and training resource availability.

So one can anticipate Q400 and CRJ FO vacancies for new-hires. Guessing most bases available. If your first choice base is not available, make sure to pick equipment that is staffed on your desired base and reflect that in your standing bid so that you will be eligible for a follow on award within seniority (training freeze applies to equipment, not base).

Good luck to all.
Thanks for your insight. Good luck to everyone in the process !
---------- ADS -----------
 
RegionalPilot
Rank 3
Rank 3
Posts: 140
Joined: Tue Mar 31, 2020 4:28 pm

Re: Bases and equipment

Post by RegionalPilot »

rudder wrote: Sun Apr 24, 2022 6:27 am
the-minister31 wrote: Sun Apr 24, 2022 5:21 am
Any idea what bases/equipment will be offered in the first GS?
Current plan is no E175 FO awards to new-hires prior to Fall 2022. This is due to simulator and training resource availability.

So one can anticipate Q400 and CRJ FO vacancies for new-hires. Guessing most bases available. If your first choice base is not available, make sure to pick equipment that is staffed on your desired base and reflect that in your standing bid so that you will be eligible for a follow on award within seniority (training freeze applies to equipment, not base).

Good luck to all.
If someone on the May 16th GS were to get CRJ YYC and wants YYZ, and the June GS has a YYZ CRJ available for new hires, how does the May new hire claim that position? Does he have to wait for a bid?
---------- ADS -----------
 
flyingcanuck
Rank 7
Rank 7
Posts: 528
Joined: Wed Mar 29, 2017 8:55 am

Re: Bases and equipment

Post by flyingcanuck »

RegionalPilot wrote: Sun Apr 24, 2022 7:02 pm
rudder wrote: Sun Apr 24, 2022 6:27 am
the-minister31 wrote: Sun Apr 24, 2022 5:21 am
Any idea what bases/equipment will be offered in the first GS?
Current plan is no E175 FO awards to new-hires prior to Fall 2022. This is due to simulator and training resource availability.

So one can anticipate Q400 and CRJ FO vacancies for new-hires. Guessing most bases available. If your first choice base is not available, make sure to pick equipment that is staffed on your desired base and reflect that in your standing bid so that you will be eligible for a follow on award within seniority (training freeze applies to equipment, not base).

Good luck to all.
If someone on the May 16th GS were to get CRJ YYC and wants YYZ, and the June GS has a YYZ CRJ available for new hires, how does the May new hire claim that position? Does he have to wait for a bid?
There is a standing bid that you fill out and the company checks it before assignment
---------- ADS -----------
 
Malfunction
Rank 4
Rank 4
Posts: 202
Joined: Tue May 29, 2018 11:00 am

Re: Bases and equipment

Post by Malfunction »

Word on the street is 1100 pilots have applied to Jazz for the latest opening.
---------- ADS -----------
 
Loon-A-Tic
Rank 5
Rank 5
Posts: 367
Joined: Sun Mar 29, 2020 12:51 pm

Re: Bases and equipment

Post by Loon-A-Tic »

flyingcanuck wrote: Sun Apr 24, 2022 8:12 pm
RegionalPilot wrote: Sun Apr 24, 2022 7:02 pm
rudder wrote: Sun Apr 24, 2022 6:27 am

Current plan is no E175 FO awards to new-hires prior to Fall 2022. This is due to simulator and training resource availability.

So one can anticipate Q400 and CRJ FO vacancies for new-hires. Guessing most bases available. If your first choice base is not available, make sure to pick equipment that is staffed on your desired base and reflect that in your standing bid so that you will be eligible for a follow on award within seniority (training freeze applies to equipment, not base).

Good luck to all.
If someone on the May 16th GS were to get CRJ YYC and wants YYZ, and the June GS has a YYZ CRJ available for new hires, how does the May new hire claim that position? Does he have to wait for a bid?
There is a standing bid that you fill out and the company checks it before assignment
I respectfully suggest you wouldn't even be finished your training let alone in a position to displace someone else from their "assigned" type. I suspect you would have to show a little bit paitence and wait for the next equipment bit following your date of hire.
---------- ADS -----------
 
the-minister31
Rank 4
Rank 4
Posts: 215
Joined: Tue Sep 10, 2019 9:08 am

Re: Bases and equipment

Post by the-minister31 »

Loon-A-Tic wrote: Tue Apr 26, 2022 4:26 am
flyingcanuck wrote: Sun Apr 24, 2022 8:12 pm
RegionalPilot wrote: Sun Apr 24, 2022 7:02 pm

If someone on the May 16th GS were to get CRJ YYC and wants YYZ, and the June GS has a YYZ CRJ available for new hires, how does the May new hire claim that position? Does he have to wait for a bid?
There is a standing bid that you fill out and the company checks it before assignment
I respectfully suggest you wouldn't even be finished your training let alone in a position to displace someone else from their "assigned" type. I suspect you would have to show a little bit paitence and wait for the next equipment bit following your date of hire.
If I understand it correctly, it's not a displacement. It's filling a vacancy. They award it based on seniority and with freezes in place, except if someone senior wants to move they'll be able to change base.
---------- ADS -----------
 
cdnavater
Rank 10
Rank 10
Posts: 2479
Joined: Wed Apr 21, 2021 11:25 am

Re: Bases and equipment

Post by cdnavater »

Loon-A-Tic wrote: Tue Apr 26, 2022 4:26 am
flyingcanuck wrote: Sun Apr 24, 2022 8:12 pm
RegionalPilot wrote: Sun Apr 24, 2022 7:02 pm

If someone on the May 16th GS were to get CRJ YYC and wants YYZ, and the June GS has a YYZ CRJ available for new hires, how does the May new hire claim that position? Does he have to wait for a bid?
There is a standing bid that you fill out and the company checks it before assignment
I respectfully suggest you wouldn't even be finished your training let alone in a position to displace someone else from their "assigned" type. I suspect you would have to show a little bit paitence and wait for the next equipment bit following your date of hire.
Patience not required, if you put a standing bid for a base change. It would be awarded to the pilot hired first and then their vacant position would be offered in the ground school.
Many times, pilots have been awarded their preferred base while still undergoing initial training.
That being said, if you were awarded any CRJ base other than YYZ and get YYZ while in your initial training, there might be some hotel and per diem issues, since all RJ training is in YYZ. I’ll have a look but if someone knows how new hire(initial training) works for that, feel free to chime in.
---------- ADS -----------
 
Post Reply

Return to “Jazz Aviation LP - Air Canada Express”