First Air hiring 727 & 737 crews

Pratt · Post by **Pratt** » Wed Oct 26, 2005 1:25 pm

There will be a similar ad in the Employment section as soon as it gets processed:

First Air Requires Experienced Flight Crew/ B737-B727 For Short / Medium Term Contracts.

Minimum Qualifications:

Type Endorsed, currency within the past 24 months.
Based in Ontario.
Terms of contract provided upon first contact.
Schedules as per CAR’s limits.

Flight Experience: Captain 5000TT, 3000 ME, 400 T-JET

First Officer 3000 TT, 2000 ME

Second Officer 500 TT

Please send information to:

jshannon@firstair.ca

pdoyle@firstair.ca

or FAX to First Air, Flight Operations Administration at 613-688-2636

Kosiw · Post by **Kosiw** » Wed Oct 26, 2005 1:37 pm

Interesting, very few have left First Air recently, is this hiring because they won the renewal of the Canada Post "Foodmail" contract and are expanding?

arctic navigator · Post by **arctic navigator** » Wed Oct 26, 2005 4:25 pm

last I heard the 727 was done at first air... has that also changed since the renewal of the food mail contract???

Pratt · Post by **Pratt** » Wed Oct 26, 2005 5:20 pm

No, not as a direct result of the foodmail contract. Which is supposed to be awarded at the end of the week.

Maybe they found some work to keep the 727's going for awhile longer.

gonefishin' · Post by **gonefishin'** » Wed Oct 26, 2005 5:48 pm

heard the short term 727 contracts were so the current guys could get trained on the 737

No more BS · Post by **No more BS** » Thu Oct 27, 2005 8:05 am

Go to Jazz instead... At least it's long term

yxy · Post by **yxy** » Thu Oct 27, 2005 1:29 pm

They are only retiring 2 727's in the very near future.........PXD and VFA I believe..

someguy2 · Post by **someguy2** » Thu Oct 27, 2005 9:25 pm

A bunch of guys I fly B747 with have applied. They all have a B737 or B727 type and time.

arctic navigator · Post by **arctic navigator** » Thu Oct 27, 2005 9:33 pm

who are you flying 747 for???

water wings · Post by **water wings** » Fri Oct 28, 2005 5:33 am

yxy wrote:They are only retiring 2 727's in the very near future.........PXD and VFA I believe..

how near? they are the only 2 727-100s left... 2 minus 2 is ...oh, none.

oh yeah. and they also just laid off a whole bunch of crews (a friend of mine is less than impressed with the job postings for their jobs)

complexintentions · Post by **complexintentions** » Fri Oct 28, 2005 6:00 am

So which company/individual (s) are threatening to sue? Now THAT would be good information to have in the aviation community!

Mig29 · Post by **Mig29** » Fri Oct 28, 2005 12:10 pm

correct me if I am wrong, but I thought F.A. is unionized, or maybe pilots aren't?

So they should be no worries of guys laid off being jumped by the outsiders.

By the way, that 500hrs TT for S/O...is that realistic at all? HAs anyone got in there with only that much?! I can see them putting you on Kinairs, Dash-6 but B727/37??? I can only wish:)

Later

yxy · Post by **yxy** » Fri Oct 28, 2005 2:21 pm

water wings wrote:
yxy wrote:They are only retiring 2 727's in the very near future.........PXD and VFA I believe..
how near? they are the only 2 727-100s left... 2 minus 2 is ...oh, none.

oh yeah. and they also just laid off a whole bunch of crews (a friend of mine is less than impressed with the job postings for their jobs)

They will be keeping XFA for a while yet....

Kosiw · Post by **Kosiw** » Fri Oct 28, 2005 3:18 pm

Wasn't the Foodmail contract supposed to be awarded today

Pratt · Post by **Pratt** » Fri Oct 28, 2005 6:09 pm

Today was supposed to be the day, but doesn't appear to have happened.

Arctic Icarus · Post by **Arctic Icarus** » Mon Oct 31, 2005 9:47 pm

I can't see any lay-offs at First Air with contract pilots coming in. I think the only lay-offs will be F/E's because of the replacement of the 727. The S/O's will luckly get positions flying fairly soon as movement seems to be happening.

As for the none 727's flying like WaterWings stated. There are currently 4 727's flying at the moment, VFA, PXD, XFA and UFA (with YFA only needing a check and it can fly again). The plan is to park VFA and PXD once thier "C" checks come due and replace them with 737's. I'm not too sure of the math here but 4-2 = 2 in my books (there WILL be 2 727's and 2 737's soon).

As for longevity. First Air has been around for about 60 years. I think that is longevity. They don't seem to more fast but they've been around a long unlike some others.

Cheers

water wings · Post by **water wings** » Wed Nov 02, 2005 5:59 pm

1st of all, AI, their are 2 727 100s left. It may not be my stong point, but my math calculations stand.
my abacus is in the right.
hey,
I did not even notice this at first...but to my limited Knowledge of this subject, the 2 names at the bottom of the "job ad" are not the people who should be receiving them... was this a TROlled post? anyone...bueller, bueller?

PS. XFA is a piece of s...

Arctic Icarus · Post by **Arctic Icarus** » Wed Nov 02, 2005 8:22 pm

HHHMMM, you were sure making it sound like there would be NO 727's flying anymore. I was just pointing out that First Air has more than 727-100's flying.

Real nice WW, why would you say that about XFA? Kind of a rude comment to make. It seems to do fine for them. Sure is flying a lot and not just on the runs up north. Heard it flying all over the place, europe, caribbean, USA.......doesn't sound too bad in my books. It's also a special machine being the first and maybe the only 727-200Adv with a class C cargo up top. I'm sure you had fun flying on it.

water wings · Post by **water wings** » Thu Nov 03, 2005 6:37 am

no fun. no on it. no flying...anyhoooo, i hate it when threads go wayoff line, but what makes you think the "S" stands for something derogatory? "streamlined piece of aviation history" is what i was thinking, besides, i don't think i hurt it's feelings...

Aeros · Post by **Aeros** » Fri Nov 04, 2005 8:38 am

water wings wrote: hey,
I did not even notice this at first...but to my limited Knowledge of this subject, the 2 names at the bottom of the "job ad" are not the people who should be receiving them... was this a TROlled post? anyone...bueller, bueller?

The positions are advertised on the First Air website. Sounds pretty real to me.

jetway · Post by **jetway** » Fri Nov 04, 2005 8:46 am

they also still have DHC-6 requirements on their website...just a tad out of date..

http://www.firstair.ca/About_First_Air/ ... ght%20Crew
grrr, if someone doesn't get RECALLED soon...well, no promises....

TAT · Post by **TAT** » Sun Nov 06, 2005 10:02 am

Well if you want to get technical First air still has 2 DH-6's