USA--Mask Mandate no Longer in Effect

[ReserveTank]

https://www.cnn.com/2022/04/18/politics ... index.html

I can't wait to make the pax announcement in the morning.

[Bil Derberg]

https://www.cnn.com/2022/04/18/politics ... index.html

I can't wait to make the pax announcement in the morning.

Hopefully the end of this mass retardation will shortly follow suit here.

[Loon-A-Tic]

Smooth move, toss the cabin crew under the Covid bus. As a Skipper I will happily have the first combative passenger tossed off the flight.

[WellThatAgedWell]

It’s sad that the cdc has no counter to this.

They literally can’t provide any evidence to support the policy that’s why it’s being struck down.

Do you see any judges striking down seatbelt laws? No, because seatbelts are effective. Masks on the other hand… cnn doc calls masks face decorations. No one can provide any real evidence to support that masking policy is effective… the pro mask experts just draw lines like grade 1 kids saying “see if we don’t mask cases go exponential!”

Anyways I’m going to follow THE SCIENCE tm Dr. Fauci on this one and mask forever!… not!

Poor FA’s have to navigate through the thickest BS of their careers enforcing this crap. 90 percent of people have to Navigate the BS to appease the 10 percent of religious maskidions. Most of us don’t mask to stop Covid. We mask to prevent getting our wee wee wapped by the woke and keep our jobs.

[Loon-A-Tic]

It’s sad that the cdc has no counter to this.

They literally can’t provide any evidence to support the policy that’s why it’s being struck down.

Do you see any judges striking down seatbelt laws? No, because seatbelts are effective. Masks on the other hand… cnn doc calls masks face decorations. No one can provide any real evidence to support that masking policy is effective… the pro mask experts just draw lines like grade 1 kids saying “see if we don’t mask cases go exponential!”

Anyways I’m going to follow THE SCIENCE tm Dr. Fauci on this one and mask forever!… not!

Poor FA’s have to navigate through the thickest BS of their careers enforcing this crap. 90 percent of people have to Navigate the BS to appease the 10 percent of religious maskidions. Most of us don’t mask to stop Covid. We mask to prevent getting our wee wee wapped by the woke and keep our jobs.

As a Skipper supporting your crew is a leading tennent of the role. Therefore if a passenger in the estimation of the cabin crew is combatitive and would lke them "de-plane" thats exactly what going to in the momment; no questions asked, just gone. It can be either by their own means, walking off or with the required "assistance" their choice.

[Bil Derberg]

"Bob" and "imjustlurking" must both be foaming at the mouth right now...

[RRJetPilot]

We should all be celebrating moving towards normalcy and removing the covid theatre. Mask mandates are stupid and the crews and flight attendants have to police the bullshit. Great news. I am surprised the UK and Scandinavian countries were first and the US second through.

[Aviatard]

It’s sad that the cdc has no counter to this.

They literally can’t provide any evidence to support the policy that’s why it’s being struck down.

Didn’t actually read the article eh? That’s not at all what it says. You’re lying again.

[Inverted2]

Must be a relief for the flight attendants to not have to be chin diaper police anymore....

[Inverted2]

I unfortunately don't think Omar Abracadabra will be following suit anytime soon. He's a devout Branch Covidian.

[WellThatAgedWell]

As a Skipper supporting your crew is a leading tennent of the role. Therefore if a passenger in the estimation of the cabin crew is combatitive and would lke them "de-plane" thats exactly what going to in the momment; no questions asked, just gone. It can be either by their own means, walking off or with the required "assistance" their choice.

Absolutely, that’s the job.

Just like if tomorrow westjet safety department says all passengers and crew need to wear helmets in case we hit turbulence, that rule would be enforced by the FAs and supported by the captain. We could boot people off the plane for not complying. Doesn’t mean anyone on the plane agrees it’s a good policy.

This is all an example of how you make people convinced we need a idiotic policy. Because the people who are working have no choice in the matter and will enforce any policies that the company wants to make.


Clearly watching what’s happening it looks like the airlines themselves, the crew and the passengers down in the states feel like this couldn’t have happened soon enough. The airlines didn’t even think it over, and instantly dropped the restrictions as soon as the word got out. Because everyone thinks the policy is garbage except for the 10 percent.

Is this any surprise? Lots of people knew mask policy was not effective. Hell even tam and Fauci said masks don’t make sense weeks before they became mandatory by public opinion. The whole thing was a joke. Remember the Facebook posts “if we all wear masks for two weeks Covid will be over” good riddance to the retards of 2020. China loves those types. Go join the Covid zero force, mask and lockdowns to eternity… to stop a flu/cold

[digits_]

It's easy to think you know what the majority of Canadians think. Especially if you are vocal about your own opinion.

I live in an area that was known for his mask disobedience during the pandemic. Now that he masks are not mandatory anymore, and have not been for over a month, I still see about 75% of the people in the grocery store wearing them.

I would not have expected that.

And while I am secretly unhappy about it, it does seem to change the fact that the majority of the people in my area are not opposed to mask. And when having a choice, they do wear them.

Then again, they wear it, I don't, and nobody is pointing the finger at the other group, so that's fine.

[CpnCrunch]

Because everyone thinks the policy is garbage except for the 10 percent.

Which 10% is this, and what evidence shows that mask policy in planes is "garbage"? I just found this modelling study:

https://academic.oup.com/jtm/article/28 ... #323094874

It found that surgical masks (65.6% efficiency) reduced the chance of catching covid from a passenger next to you on a 12 hour flight from 99.6% to 48%.

[WellThatAgedWell]

Because everyone thinks the policy is garbage except for the 10 percent.

Which 10% is this, and what evidence shows that mask policy in planes is "garbage"? I just found this modelling study:

https://academic.oup.com/jtm/article/28 ... #323094874

It found that surgical masks (65.6% efficiency) reduced the chance of catching covid from a passenger next to you on a 12 hour flight from 99.6% to 48%.

No one can provide any real evidence to support that masking policy is effective… the pro mask experts just draw lines like grade 1 kids saying “see if we don’t mask cases go exponential!”

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Anyone can cherry pick data and draw lines to make graphs.

Like I said, real evidence.

Birth control pills are 99 percent effective when taken exactly as prescribed. Real world data shows they are not 99 percent effective, because people are human.

Masking might be effective, when using the correct mask, and the correct way. Mask policy as a whole is extremely flawed from any practical perspective. People remove masks to eat, people hang mask under their nose, people wear cloth masks that have zero quality control. People wear the same mask for 12 hours straight. When people sneeze they remove the mask, because who the hell wants to sneeze into a mask and keep wearing it all day. There’s a huge difference in what a lab study shows and any practical application of mask use.

My statement is not “masks don’t work” it is “mask policy is not effective”.

If a cloth mask traps 50 percent of droplets in a lab, this doesn’t equate to mask policy is effective. We could all wear masks and trap 50 percent of droplets and still have the same or even more Covid spread induced by a policy. Touching your dirty mask certainly doesn’t help stop Covid spread.

Anyways the maskidions are falling off the deep end now. You are free to keep masking. Enjoy! Everyone else is going back to normal because they are tired if idiotic mandates. People can choose to wear a mask when they think the risks warrant its use and they feel like it’s effective. But if you follow the science, not the political science, you would see mask efficacy is extremely low, and not a good pandemic policy for aerosolized virus spread.

[Donald]

Can we find a Trump judge to strike down every law we feel is inconvenient or unconstitutional?

[Inverted2]

Because everyone thinks the policy is garbage except for the 10 percent.

Which 10% is this, and what evidence shows that mask policy in planes is "garbage"? I just found this modelling study:

https://academic.oup.com/jtm/article/28 ... #323094874

It found that surgical masks (65.6% efficiency) reduced the chance of catching covid from a passenger next to you on a 12 hour flight from 99.6% to 48%.

Shhh. Don’t tell the mask worshipers they still have a 48% chance of getting the WuFlu on a flight. Statistically we should all be dead like 5 times by now right?

[CpnCrunch]

Well there are quite a lot of contradictions in your post. I posted a model showing that masks are effective on planes, and you've posted...what?

Like I said, real evidence.

Masking might be effective, when using the correct mask, and the correct way.

My statement is not “masks don’t work” it is “mask policy is not effective”.

But if you follow the science, not the political science, you would see mask efficacy is extremely low,

[CpnCrunch]

Statistically we should all be dead like 5 times by now right?

Nah, only the antivaxxer dicks, which is perfectly fine by me.

[flyndad]

COVID was so rampant on flights but it was okay to unmask to feast on Pretzels

[WellThatAgedWell]

Statistically we should all be dead like 5 times by now right?

Nah, only the antivaxxer dicks, which is perfectly fine by me.

Its funny how Darwin should be the great equalizer and the anti maskers and anti vaxers should die off.

Yet places that drop mask mandates have no distinguishable increases in covid spread and triple vaxers started accounting for the highest covid positive per capita in Ontario.

Maybe that should be your hint that you have a bias and refuse to acknowledge reality. No one cares if a vaccine or mask is 90 percent effective in a lab, what people want to know is if it's actually going to prevent spread and disease in practice. Unfortunately the real world data would make us all skeptical of all the mandates we put up with. Sure there's some efficacy, not nearly to the degree the virtue signalling 10 percent would try to make us believe.

So is captain crunch just embarrassed about his post history the past couple years, and refuses to change his mind to save face?

Or does he actually believe in masking and lockdowns science.

[Inverted2]

Statistically we should all be dead like 5 times by now right?

Nah, only the antivaxxer dicks, which is perfectly fine by me.

I know many non vaccinated people who are doing just fine. Why are 85% of the hospitalization cases in fully vaccinated then?

[WellThatAgedWell]

Statistically we should all be dead like 5 times by now right?

Nah, only the antivaxxer dicks, which is perfectly fine by me.

I know many non vaccinated people who are doing just fine. Why are 85% of the hospitalization cases in fully vaccinated then?

No point trying to rationalize with the type of people who think Dr fauci "is the science"

You are arguing with a cult.

[CpnCrunch]

I know many non vaccinated people who are doing just fine. Why are 85% of the hospitalization cases in fully vaccinated then?

Not sure where you're getting that info from or what it's showing. According to Health Canada, in the past month the risk of hospitalization is 7x higher for unvaccinated vs vaccinated with booster, and death is 11x higher for unvaccinated.

[CpnCrunch]

No point trying to rationalize with the type of people who think Dr fauci "is the science"

Where exactly did I say that? Did you perhaps not notice the study I posted (which you yourself posted a pic from). I'm pretty sure it wasn't Fauci.

You are arguing with a cult.

Yeah, I think I am.

[BigQ]

I know many non vaccinated people who are doing just fine. Why are 85% of the hospitalization cases in fully vaccinated then?

Not sure where you're getting that info from or what it's showing. According to Health Canada, in the past month the risk of hospitalization is 7x higher for unvaccinated vs vaccinated with booster, and death is 11x higher for unvaccinated.

Source? I just saw the other day that vaccination has 0 effect on hospitalizations and deaths. As in, with 10% of the pop still unvaccinated, 10% of cases hospitalized are unvaccinated. Then again, that might've been CDC data from the US and there is a special difference between the unvaccinated in Canada and the US, don't know.