Selling “block time” on advanced ultralights

[lidi]

Hello aviators

With seeing people creating opportunities to selling “block time” on planes like Cessnas and pipers can I sell block time on an advanced ultralight? Would pilots trying to build time towards their total time count ultralight build time as another source to their total time as I know you can count only a certain hours towards the commercial licence.

Your thoughts would be appreciated and thank you

[photofly]

Yes, you can sell block time on an advanced ultra-light aeroplane. Make sure your insurance company is ok with this.

10 hours of PIC time in a three-axis ultra-light count towards the total time for a PPL, 25 hours of PIC time in a three-axis ultra-light aeroplane can count towards a CPL (but not unfortunately towards the 100 hours PIC requirement) and 50 hours of flight time (curiously, it doesn't specify PIC time so dual would count) towards an ATPL.

[Bede]

And you can even provide flight training as long as you notify the Minister.

[Bede]

This may seem obvious but it's important: you can't build night time . (Most cpl looking for block time need to build night time for their ATPL.)

[lidi]

Thank you photofly and bede for your info much appreciated. Also in general is it possible to also build block time towards the total time for these new pilots in training to gain cheaper prices?

Again much appreciated

[photofly]

Thank you photofly and bede for your info much appreciated. Also in general is it possible to also build block time towards the total time for these new pilots in training to gain cheaper prices?

Again much appreciated

Your question isn't very clear, but if you're asking if dual training time in an ultralight counts towards the licensing requirements for the CPL of the person being trained in the ultralight, the answer is no. For the CPL, the only ultralight time that counts is PIC time, and if you're receiving instruction you're not PIC.

Towards the ATPL, the regulation says up to 50 hours of flight time in a three axis ultralight counts towards the total 1500 hour requirement, but as Bede points out, by the time you have close to 1500 hours, you've usually found a way of getting what you need without having to pay for it (as part of your employment) with the exception of various combinations of night and/or and/or cross country and/or PIC time, towards none of which time in an ultralight counts, either dual or solo.

[lidi]

Thank you photofly and bede for your info much appreciated. Also in general is it possible to also build block time towards the total time for these new pilots in training to gain cheaper prices?

Again much appreciated

Your question isn't very clear, but if you're asking if dual training time in an ultralight counts towards the licensing requirements for the CPL of the person being trained in the ultralight, the answer is no. For the CPL, the only ultralight time that counts is PIC time, and if you're receiving instruction you're not PIC.

Towards the ATPL, the regulation says up to 50 hours of flight time in a three axis ultralight counts towards the total 1500 hour requirement, but as Bede points out, by the time you have close to 1500 hours, you've usually found a way of getting what you need without having to pay for it (as part of your employment) with the exception of various combinations of night and/or and/or cross country and/or PIC time, towards none of which time in an ultralight counts, either dual or solo.

Much appreciated again, but I guess any PIC time on an advanced ultralight can still count toward a pilots total time for hours and not necessarily for the CPL or ATPL

[co-joe]

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Much appreciated again, but I guess any PIC time on an advanced ultralight can still count toward a pilots total time for hours and not necessarily for the CPL or ATPL

Yes, but if an employer asks what's a Challenger 2? And you say it's an advanced ultralight, you tend to get treated like you lied in your log book. Not saying it's right, I instructed on a rotax powered Storm S280 and quit after 50 hours because I needed time I could log towards the ATPL. Whenever it comes up people treat it as if it never happened or in their mind I logged powered parachute time. Personally it was some extremely challenging flying, in an underpowered aircraft and I learned a tonne. It is also a very capable aircraft. 5 GPH, Auto gas, and around 100 mph when the electrically controlled variable pitch prop worked, otherwise 90 mph.

I also wonder about Ultralights on floats. Do insurance companies count it for their float time requirements for a job on a 185?

[photofly]

Much appreciated again, but I guess any PIC time on an advanced ultralight can still count toward a pilots total time for hours and not necessarily for the CPL or ATPL

As co-joe points out, other than the experience requirements for various licences and ratings which are unambiguous, there's no legal standard for "total time for hours" so whether an aircraft type "counts" depends entirely on who's doing the counting.

[lownslow]

I also wonder about Ultralights on floats. Do insurance companies count it for their float time requirements for a job on a 185?

I wanna know how people feel about multi engine ultralights. Can I buy a Lazair and ramp up my MPIC for pennies? Better still, can I get rich renting out a Lazair for the same purpose?

[photofly]

Is that any better or worse than this?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colomban_Cri-cri

[5x5]

And don't forget the "jet time" you could get.

https://www.eaa.org/eaa/news-and-public ... ny-twinjet

[goldeneagle]

Cri-Cri has been around for a long time. What you really need is multi-engine rotor time.