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Re: New hire bids

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kiaszceski wrote: Tue Jun 21, 2022 7:15 pm
jpilot77 wrote: Tue Jun 21, 2022 7:12 pm
Jstrong wrote: Tue Jun 21, 2022 3:20 pm

I just accepted an offer today. In total it took 4 1/2 weeks from the initial interview > Sim > Ref Checks > to the letter of offer. During the Ref Checks, there were 2 weeks of no contact. As one user said above, they are just overrun with applicants right now and processing is eating the majority of that time up.
As with any airline, your resume will determine how quickly they hire you. A buddy of mine got a call at Jazz 4 business days after his sim while others may take a couple weeks. It all depends on what have you flown (jet time, multi PIC, busy US airport experience), how much total time do you have, do you have an ATPL or not etc. All these different factors along with how you do in the interview determines who gets called first.
This is interesting, I didn't know anyone that got their references checked, medical test and criminal background checked in 4 days! That's super fast!

Do you mind sharing his experience?

He interviewed about 2 weeks before his simulator ride and medical. They might have done background and references between his interview and sim eval. I believe he has just over 1500 hours lots of PIC, and jet experience flying into congested US destinations. Also just about has his ATPL time requirements completed and had numerous internal references.
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jpilot77 wrote: Tue Jun 21, 2022 8:16 pm
kiaszceski wrote: Tue Jun 21, 2022 7:15 pm
jpilot77 wrote: Tue Jun 21, 2022 7:12 pm

As with any airline, your resume will determine how quickly they hire you. A buddy of mine got a call at Jazz 4 business days after his sim while others may take a couple weeks. It all depends on what have you flown (jet time, multi PIC, busy US airport experience), how much total time do you have, do you have an ATPL or not etc. All these different factors along with how you do in the interview determines who gets called first.
This is interesting, I didn't know anyone that got their references checked, medical test and criminal background checked in 4 days! That's super fast!

Do you mind sharing his experience?

He interviewed about 2 weeks before his simulator ride and medical. They might have done background and references between his interview and sim eval. I believe he has just over 1500 hours lots of PIC, and jet experience flying into congested US destinations. Also just about has his ATPL time requirements completed and had numerous internal references.
Doesn't mean a whole lot. Just depends how straightforward his app was. References cause grief and scheduling between both parties. One day at a time.

I have similar experience to thr aforementioned but with ATPL and 2k total time.
My process started end of February was just offered a position.
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kiaszceski wrote: Tue Jun 21, 2022 1:07 pm
Keinn4whstlr4 wrote: Tue Jun 21, 2022 1:03 pm
wezoomin wrote: Sun Jun 19, 2022 9:15 am

How long ago was that? My sim was done over two weeks ago and, as far as I know, my references still haven’t been called. I did not receive a PFO either.

Is no news still good news?
It was more than a month ago. I have been offered the June 27th GS. Absolutely, no news is always good news. They are really backed up at the moment. So give it some time and I am sure you will hear from them soon!
How long did it take them to send you the job offer after the sim and references check?
Have you been put in the pool before having the job offer and lastly what's roughly your experience?

Thanks :-)
From the sim and references check , it took about 10 days to send me a job offer. No , I was not put in any pool.
I have roughly about 2500 hours, ATPL , 1200 MPIC , Medevac world

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Anyone know what the equipment offering was for the class that started today?
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Admiral Benson wrote: Mon Jun 27, 2022 12:25 pm Anyone know what the equipment offering was for the class that started today?
I am curious if they will award DEC since the bid is delayed
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Wouldn't surprise me. There are still quite a few individuals out west who were Captains pre-covid that are sitting in the right seat today. Most have 2-4 YOS, But None of them are willing to chase the left seat east of YYC. I fear more western reductions.
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9 CRJ YYZ
4 CRJ YUL
4 E175 YYZ
2 Q400 YUL
1 Q400 YYC
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the-minister31 wrote: Mon Jun 27, 2022 12:51 pm
Admiral Benson wrote: Mon Jun 27, 2022 12:25 pm Anyone know what the equipment offering was for the class that started today?
I am curious if they will award DEC since the bid is delayed
Can you technically award DEC if you don't have a valid PPC within Jazz even if you're employed for just a day ?
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Yes. You are awarded a position. Then you train for the position you've been awarded. Having a PPC never enters the equation.

But, in order for them to offer DEC they have to have an open captain position in the system that no pilot currently on property has bid for. And given the composition of the June 6th class I'm sure there are some people that might take it.
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No captain will be awarded until they figure out the equipment bid…

Hopefully we get news soon.
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RegionalPilot wrote: Tue Jun 28, 2022 4:56 am No captain will be awarded until they figure out the equipment bid…

Hopefully we get news soon.
Bingo.

There is no back door to DEC. If (when) it comes to pass, it will be because ALL current and more senior pilots have not bid for CA.
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Basically what will end up happening is a few of the new hires lately will be awarded captain, but with an effective date later this year. There is no need as of now of DEC.

The latest bid was done early in order to create vacancies, and THEN people might get trained directly in the left seat once everyone has reached their effective date and started training.
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The company (and AC) wanted relief but offered nothing in return. The result? No relief.

So we move on and manage using the terms of the CBA. All of the COVID LOU’s are now expired. The company did not want to extend double time overtime premiums to protect the summer operation. AC was much wiser.

You sign a deal - you live with the deal. Good advice for all concerned (Jazz/ALPA/AC/ACPA).

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What was today's equipment bid for the new hires?
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rudder wrote: Tue Jun 28, 2022 2:31 pm The company (and AC) wanted relief but offered nothing in return. The result? No relief.

So we move on and manage using the terms of the CBA. All of the COVID LOU’s are now expired. The company did not want to extend double time overtime premiums to protect the summer operation. AC was much wiser.

You sign a deal - you live with the deal. Good advice for all concerned (Jazz/ALPA/AC/ACPA).

Nothing in life is free.
Could AC force Jazz to come up with a deal with the pilots to protect winter operation and by extension summer 2024 when the times come?
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kiaszceski wrote: Tue Jun 28, 2022 6:57 pm What was today's equipment bid for the new hires?
Q,RJ,EMB YYZ
Q,RJ YUL
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KenoraPilot wrote: Tue Jun 28, 2022 9:50 pm
kiaszceski wrote: Tue Jun 28, 2022 6:57 pm What was today's equipment bid for the new hires?
Q,RJ,EMB YYZ
Q,RJ YUL
Do we happen to know how many per position exactly ?
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E175 YYZ - 4
CRJ YYZ - 9
CRJ YUL - 4
Q400 YUL - 2
Q400 YYC - 1
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Re: New hire bids

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Caterpillar wrote: Wed Jun 29, 2022 11:26 am E175 YYZ - 4
CRJ YYZ - 9
CRJ YUL - 4
Q400 YUL - 2
Q400 YYC - 1
Thanks !
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How long would it take as a new hire to bid YVR base ?

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RobertChow wrote: Wed Jun 29, 2022 7:53 pm How long would it take as a new hire to bid YVR base ?

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I think it just depends on when the Asian market recovers, cause right now there are too many guys out west and they're all getting shipped out to Montreal and Toronto on temporary bases or deadheads to start pairings. I'd assume that as soon as guys move to AC it'll open up spots sometime this fall but I feel like the majority of ACs focus is in Toronto and Montreal so that'll be where the growth happens.
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Is putting candidates in the pool still a thing or are they awarding GS as candidates successfully complete all the steps of the hiring process?
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kiaszceski wrote: Wed Jul 06, 2022 2:23 pm Is putting candidates in the pool still a thing or are they awarding GS as candidates successfully complete all the steps of the hiring process?
I am wondering the same too. I have been placed on a pool and apparently been asked to complete a Thomas assessment after the fact because it’s a new assessment they started and they didn’t send it early on. Did you get asked that too?

What does a pool mean anyways?
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HappySkies777 wrote: Wed Jul 06, 2022 6:39 pm
kiaszceski wrote: Wed Jul 06, 2022 2:23 pm Is putting candidates in the pool still a thing or are they awarding GS as candidates successfully complete all the steps of the hiring process?
I am wondering the same too. I have been placed on a pool and apparently been asked to complete a Thomas assessment after the fact because it’s a new assessment they started and they didn’t send it early on. Did you get asked that too?

What does a pool mean anyways?
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Usually what bases are available for DEC?
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