COVID Boosters every 9 months announced

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Bingo fuel and cpncrunch love Russian and Chinese style government. They don’t have Canadian values, don’t let them fool you. If they were the advisor of our great leader JT they would tell him we need mandatory jabs for all, especially our children because they are the biggest germ spreaders. :lol:

Remember JT said he admires china's dictatorship… that was probably the statement he made that sold bingo fuel on being a liberal.
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Just shows me you've got nothing but straw man arguments. Your pathetic insults are just sad. Keep living in your right wing bubble, where you clearly don't talk to any actial Leftists. You may have more in common with them than you think.

And no, I didn't vote for Trudeau.

What does any of this have to do with fourth doses? Nothing. Nobody is forcing you to take them. No one is restricting your freedom for not having a booster.

Stop spreading fear. Go out and enjoy your life. You might be a happier person for it.

That's what you wanted, right?
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Bingo Fuel wrote: Tue Jul 05, 2022 7:37 am Just shows me you've got nothing but straw man arguments. Your pathetic insults are just sad. Keep living in your right wing bubble, where you clearly don't talk to any actial Leftists. You may have more in common with them than you think.

And no, I didn't vote for Trudeau.

What does any of this have to do with fourth doses? Nothing. Nobody is forcing you to take them. No one is restricting your freedom for not having a booster.

Stop spreading fear. Go out and enjoy your life. You might be a happier person for it.

That's what you wanted, right?
I have nothing against anyone taking booster shots. I just want it to be a personal choice. And no, last year was not a personal choice. Losing your job and personal freedoms made it a forced vaccine. If you like that kind of dictatorship, go to China, North Korea, etc.
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Bingo Fuel wrote: Tue Jul 05, 2022 7:37 am Just shows me you've got nothing but straw man arguments. Your pathetic insults are just sad. Keep living in your right wing bubble, where you clearly don't talk to any actial Leftists. You may have more in common with them than you think.

And no, I didn't vote for Trudeau.

What does any of this have to do with fourth doses? Nothing. Nobody is forcing you to take them. No one is restricting your freedom for not having a booster.

Stop spreading fear. Go out and enjoy your life. You might be a happier person for it.

That's what you wanted, right?
If you think people's freedoms aren't being restricted still, then you are either willfully blind, or don't care. Because there are still a lot of people that are not permitted to return to work and are unemployed as the results of both the gov and/or employer imposed original vaccine mandate, and now an employer imposed and soon to be gov imposed booster mandate. If you think they won't continue to use this as a punitive measure to ostracize their detractors and consolidate political power, well then you're just ignorant.
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Liberals are a disgrace, and Singh is going along with it.

They announced they will be working from home for another year into 2023.

https://torontosun.com/news/national/go ... nt-for-mps

What does this show about leadership through a pandemic? Meanwhile those who are low income, work in grocery stores etc. all the essential jobs. They were slinging it even prior to vaccines.

https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2022/0 ... mains.html

Is anyone here military? Tell me, is this how leadership works? Do the higher ranks hide like pansies and tell the lower ranks to hold the front line? What a disgusting bunch of politicians. Get the @#$! back to work you shit heads, just like everyone else you say you represent have been doing for the past two years.

Trudeau is like “thank you to everyone on the front lines willing to sacrifice themselves this pandemic, we are all to lazy and afraid to come to work…. Suckaaaaassss”
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CpnCrunch wrote: Mon Jul 04, 2022 8:13 pm Here is a preprint of a multi-center study in the US showing efficacy of mRNA vaccines with booster against hospitalization from Omicron is about 80% vs 46% for just one dose:

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101 ... 22276228v1
Lol

First of all, not peer reviewed

Second, just go look and see who funded that study, that should tell you everything you need to know about how much you can "trust the science"

I don't understand you people who are so hell bent on this vaccine... Literally no one gives a shit about covid anymore, it barely makes the "news" and everyone is, finally, living their lives again. Fortunately, most have realized they're done with this crap, and if they get covid, so be it. I posted because I find people like you absolutely comedic at this point.

Inverted, altiplano, thatagedwell, stop feeding these trolls, let them take 76 booster shots, you'll never get through to them...
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Index wrote: Tue Jul 05, 2022 2:26 pm
CpnCrunch wrote: Mon Jul 04, 2022 8:13 pm Here is a preprint of a multi-center study in the US showing efficacy of mRNA vaccines with booster against hospitalization from Omicron is about 80% vs 46% for just one dose:

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101 ... 22276228v1
Lol

First of all, not peer reviewed

Second, just go look and see who funded that study, that should tell you everything you need to know about how much you can "trust the science"

I don't understand you people who are so hell bent on this vaccine... Literally no one gives a shit about covid anymore, it barely makes the "news" and everyone is, finally, living their lives again. Fortunately, most have realized they're done with this crap, and if they get covid, so be it. I posted because I find people like you absolutely comedic at this point.

Inverted, altiplano, thatagedwell, stop feeding these trolls, let them take 76 booster shots, you'll never get through to them...
Well you can look at the earlier peer reviewed studies. This is just the most recent data, and it matches ontarios figures. Does nobody believe science? What causes your plane to fly? Your hot air?
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Index wrote: Tue Jul 05, 2022 2:26 pm Inverted, altiplano, thatagedwell, stop feeding these trolls, let them take 76 booster shots, you'll never get through to them...
I couldn't agree more.
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CpnCrunch wrote: Tue Jul 05, 2022 3:35 pm
Index wrote: Tue Jul 05, 2022 2:26 pm
CpnCrunch wrote: Mon Jul 04, 2022 8:13 pm Here is a preprint of a multi-center study in the US showing efficacy of mRNA vaccines with booster against hospitalization from Omicron is about 80% vs 46% for just one dose:

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101 ... 22276228v1
Lol

First of all, not peer reviewed

Second, just go look and see who funded that study, that should tell you everything you need to know about how much you can "trust the science"

I don't understand you people who are so hell bent on this vaccine... Literally no one gives a shit about covid anymore, it barely makes the "news" and everyone is, finally, living their lives again. Fortunately, most have realized they're done with this crap, and if they get covid, so be it. I posted because I find people like you absolutely comedic at this point.

Inverted, altiplano, thatagedwell, stop feeding these trolls, let them take 76 booster shots, you'll never get through to them...
Well you can look at the earlier peer reviewed studies. This is just the most recent data, and it matches ontarios figures. Does nobody believe science? What causes your plane to fly? Your hot air?
I hope you understand that science isn't exactly 100% full proof and correct all the time, because as much as I hate to say it, science actually does change (and this statement has no reference or bearing on the science of covid changing every 5 minutes)

Anyway, i'm done with trolls like you, here's a reading, direct from scientific american that even claims science isn't full proof

https://www.scientificamerican.com/arti ... ure-wrong/
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Index wrote: Tue Jul 05, 2022 5:19 pm I hope you understand that science isn't exactly 100% full proof and correct all the time, because as much as I hate to say it, science actually does change (and this statement has no reference or bearing on the science of covid changing every 5 minutes)

Anyway, i'm done with trolls like you, here's a reading, direct from scientific american that even claims science isn't full proof

https://www.scientificamerican.com/arti ... ure-wrong/
Well I'm still waiting for any of you guys to post anything that refutes the evidence I posted. You can bitch and complain all you like that "science changes", but if you want to do that you need to have some evidence to the contrary. Is the science of flight not settled? Why do we trust very complex planes?

Of course science changes. At any point in time there is a certain weight of evidence, and the greater that weight then the greater the confidence we can have in any particular aspect of science. At this point in time there is overwhelming evidence that covid vaccines significantly protect against hospitalisation and death from omicron, particularly for over 60s. But for some reason avcanada experts think this is some great conspiracy theory by the vaccine companies in league with Bill Gates, Justin Trudeau and Satan. I'm 50/50 as to whether you're all just expert trolls, or you do in fact believe this anti-science BS.
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CpnCrunch wrote: Tue Jul 05, 2022 6:05 pm
Index wrote: Tue Jul 05, 2022 5:19 pm I hope you understand that science isn't exactly 100% full proof and correct all the time, because as much as I hate to say it, science actually does change (and this statement has no reference or bearing on the science of covid changing every 5 minutes)

Anyway, i'm done with trolls like you, here's a reading, direct from scientific american that even claims science isn't full proof

https://www.scientificamerican.com/arti ... ure-wrong/
Well I'm still waiting for any of you guys to post anything that refutes the evidence I posted. You can bitch and complain all you like that "science changes", but if you want to do that you need to have some evidence to the contrary. Is the science of flight not settled? Why do we trust very complex planes?

Of course science changes. At any point in time there is a certain weight of evidence, and the greater that weight then the greater the confidence we can have in any particular aspect of science. At this point in time there is overwhelming evidence that covid vaccines significantly protect against hospitalisation and death from omicron, particularly for over 60s. But for some reason avcanada experts think this is some great conspiracy theory by the vaccine companies in league with Bill Gates, Justin Trudeau and Satan. I'm 50/50 as to whether you're all just expert trolls, or you do in fact believe this anti-science BS.
I think Bill Gates and Satan are the same person. Trudeau is way too stupid to be Satan. He's just a puppet for the WEF/Globalist scum.
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Inverted2 wrote: Tue Jul 05, 2022 6:22 pm
He's just a puppet for the WEF/Globalist scum.
Ah, a brexiter, trumper or similar protectionist. See how well those ideas are turning out.
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WellThatAgedWell wrote: Tue Jul 05, 2022 6:55 am Bingo fuel and cpncrunch love Russian and Chinese style government. They don’t have Canadian values, don’t let them fool you. If they were the advisor of our great leader JT they would tell him we need mandatory jabs for all, especially our children because they are the biggest germ spreaders. :lol:

Remember JT said he admires china's dictatorship… that was probably the statement he made that sold bingo fuel on being a liberal.
No, those posters follow science, understand science and have brain cells.

I welcome these mandates personally. It’ll keep people safe/ save others and keep the economy moving while preventing the hospitals from being overrun.

Things that anti vaxers don’t care about
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GhostRider6 wrote: Tue Jul 05, 2022 7:06 pm I welcome these mandates personally.
There is no fourth dose mandate. People are free to choose to get them, or not.
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https://toronto.ctvnews.ca/toronto-must ... -1.5974065

Follow the science. Now if you refuse to shave you will be fired. N95 science says you need a clean shave.

What should come first religion or public health. I guess public health is always first. Every man who refuses to shave should lose their job! It’s for our health!
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Bingo Fuel wrote: Tue Jul 05, 2022 7:30 pm
GhostRider6 wrote: Tue Jul 05, 2022 7:06 pm I welcome these mandates personally.
There is no fourth dose mandate. People are free to choose to get them, or not.
There are still mandates. Plenty of people not permitted back to work, and some workplaces are imposing booster mandates. Just because you are subject to them, doesn't mean other people are not. Maybe you should start standing up for people's rights? Or maybe supporting medical fascism is easier when it doesn't affect you? I mean....

First they came for the Anti-vaxxers
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Anti-vaxxer
Then they came for the Truckers
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Trucker
Then they came for the Conservatives
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Conservative
Then they came for me
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BE02 Driver wrote: Wed Jul 06, 2022 6:43 am
Bingo Fuel wrote: Tue Jul 05, 2022 7:30 pm
GhostRider6 wrote: Tue Jul 05, 2022 7:06 pm I welcome these mandates personally.
There is no fourth dose mandate. People are free to choose to get them, or not.
There are still mandates. Plenty of people not permitted back to work, and some workplaces are imposing booster mandates. Just because you are subject to them, doesn't mean other people are not. Maybe you should start standing up for people's rights? Or maybe supporting medical fascism is easier when it doesn't affect you? I mean....

First they came for the Anti-vaxxers
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Anti-vaxxer
Then they came for the Truckers
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Trucker
Then they came for the Conservatives
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Conservative
Then they came for me
And there was no one left
To speak out for me

Medical fascism? Really?

The millennial generation has no clue what hard or oppression actually is.

It’s a itty bitty whittle needle !

It’s called social responsibility!?

You have a duty to protect others, save lives and prevent transmission. Period.

If you can’t comprehend that you’re far gone…

I bet you believe in all that WEF/ Davos gobbledygook too.
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Who decides what social responsibility looks like? Is this up to government? Churches? Do people get to vote on it?

Probably lots of things you do on a daily basis that are not socially responsible. Do you ever drive 20 over a speed limit? Who is less responsible you or the person who doesn't want a vaccine that doesn't prevent transmission.

Why don't we have a mandate that anyone who has ever had a speeding ticket can no longer drive to work? All the socially irresponsible people can be kept off the road and we can save lives. Seems reasonable to me.

I'm more worried about shit drivers on the road than people who won't take a covid vaccine. Why doesn't Trudeau protect me from them? Ban them from driving!
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WellThatAgedWell wrote: Wed Jul 06, 2022 8:51 am Who decides what social responsibility looks like? Is this up to government? Churches? Do people get to vote on it?

Probably lots of things you do on a daily basis that are not socially responsible. Do you ever drive 20 over a speed limit? Who is less responsible you or the person who doesn't want a vaccine that doesn't prevent transmission.

Why don't we have a mandate that anyone who has ever had a speeding ticket can no longer drive to work? All the socially irresponsible people can be kept off the road and we can save lives. Seems reasonable to me.

I'm more worried about shit drivers on the road than people who won't take a covid vaccine. Why doesn't Trudeau protect me from them? Ban them from driving!

The government which is informed by science should decide. I’m some cases, no people shouldn’t have a vote. Also, we did have a vote when we elected Trudeau … the majority of Canadians wanted a government that backed science, facts and data.

No, I do not drive over the speed limit. If you are doing 61 in a 60 you are speeding and should get a ticket… let alone 20 km/h. I agree if you are over the speed limit as I described and demonstrate that you cannot follow the rules you should lose your license. Agreed:


People who got the vaccine have demonstrated that they save lives, care about others and trust science. They ( the vaccinated) have demonstrated selflessness and the ability to be good/ wonderful citizens. We also kept society running, businesses running and this kept people employed / fed by keeping supply chains running.

By comparison : the unvaccinated refused to work, refused to care about others, refused to trust the experts and have demonstrated and inability to follow basic mores of society.

It’s sad that we’ve had to face that these people exist amongst us.
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Man, how many alt accounts does this guy have? The trolling is just obvious at this point.
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Bingo Fuel wrote: Wed Jul 06, 2022 9:59 am Man, how many alt accounts does this guy have? The trolling is just obvious at this point.


No. Not trolling. I have underlying health conditions and I appreciated these restrictions/ these mandates as they kept me safe.

COVID is here to stay … we’ve gotten this far as a country and yes we’ve made some sacrifices along the way…

Some of us made the right choices and banded together as a team.

Also, Why stop before the finish line after everything we’ve done?
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BE02 Driver wrote: Wed Jul 06, 2022 6:43 am
There are still mandates. Plenty of people not permitted back to work, and some workplaces are imposing booster mandates. Just because you are subject to them, doesn't mean other people are not. Maybe you should start standing up for people's rights? Or maybe supporting medical fascism is easier when it doesn't affect you? I mean....

First they came for the Anti-vaxxers
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Anti-vaxxer
Then they came for the Truckers
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Trucker
Then they came for the Conservatives
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Conservative
Then they came for me
And there was no one left
To speak out for me
You stand up for people's rights? Are you going to stand up for Indigenous land claims? Police brutality against visible minorities? No. You only stand up for those who share your ideals.

The decision to remain unvaccinated is a personal choice, unlike the situations I've just mentioned. You seem to feel that unvaccinated people should not be responsible for the consequences of their choices. They are free to have a different risk assessment, but they also know the consequences of their decisions.

Unless personal responsibility is just for people you disagree with.

I remember back in the early days of COVID. People like you claimed that we shouldn't let the personal choices of the fat, unhealthy immunocompromised people affect our freedom. Nevermind the fact that many people were immunocompromised because of health outcomes beyond their control.

No, the anti-mandate crowd said the immunocompromised need to take personal responsibility for their choices, so the rest of us can be "free". I merely apply the same logic to the unvaccinated. If you have a valid medical reason, get an exemption. Otherwise, take responsibility for your choices.

You can't have it both ways
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Hey ghostrider I suppose you support the decision on roe vs wade down south then. We need gov to tell us what is socially responsible and people should have no vote or say. 🤷🏼

Everyone is ok with gov rules until its a rule they don't agree with.

Not sure I agree that gov always gets it right and knows the science.
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WellThatAgedWell wrote: Wed Jul 06, 2022 10:24 am Hey ghostrider I suppose you support the decision on roe vs wade down south then. We need gov to tell us what is socially responsible and people should have no vote or say. 🤷🏼

Everyone is ok with gov rules until its a rule they don't agree with.

Not sure I agree that gov always gets it right and knows the science.
I do not support the Roe V Wade decision in the south.

A woman’s right to bodily autonomy has nothing to do with a global emergency /deadly pandemic. The two aren’t even comparable.

You refusing to vaccinate puts everyone in danger around you ..you can give the virus to someone like myself with underlying conditions. Your decision impacts everyone.

Also, If you wind up in the hospital you can take up a bed from someone who needs it.

Also, you did have the ability to exercise bodily autonomy. Many choose to be vaccinated .. nobody forced anyone.
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GhostRider6 wrote: Wed Jul 06, 2022 10:53 am
WellThatAgedWell wrote: Wed Jul 06, 2022 10:24 am Hey ghostrider I suppose you support the decision on roe vs wade down south then. We need gov to tell us what is socially responsible and people should have no vote or say. 🤷🏼

Everyone is ok with gov rules until its a rule they don't agree with.

Not sure I agree that gov always gets it right and knows the science.
I do not support the Roe V Wade decision in the south.

A woman’s right to bodily autonomy has nothing to do with a global emergency /deadly pandemic. The two aren’t even comparable.

You refusing to vaccinate puts everyone in danger around you ..you can give the virus to someone like myself with underlying conditions. Your decision impacts everyone.

Also, If you wind up in the hospital you can take up a bed from someone who needs it.

Also, you did have the ability to exercise bodily autonomy. Many choose to be vaccinated .. nobody forced anyone.
You said the gov is responsible to decide what is socially responsible. That's what you get with your logic.

Gov does not care your thoughts on one issue to the next. When you say the government should have authority to make rules, you get all the rules that come with it like them or not.

You even said we should not be able to vote on it or have a say. You don't believe in a democratic process to decide law. You think corrupt government always has our best interests because apparently they follow "science".

Don't forget. Only 15 percent of the 37 million Canadians voted for liberals. Is that democracy working?
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