
Remember JT said he admires china's dictatorship… that was probably the statement he made that sold bingo fuel on being a liberal.
I have nothing against anyone taking booster shots. I just want it to be a personal choice. And no, last year was not a personal choice. Losing your job and personal freedoms made it a forced vaccine. If you like that kind of dictatorship, go to China, North Korea, etc.Bingo Fuel wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 7:37 am Just shows me you've got nothing but straw man arguments. Your pathetic insults are just sad. Keep living in your right wing bubble, where you clearly don't talk to any actial Leftists. You may have more in common with them than you think.
And no, I didn't vote for Trudeau.
What does any of this have to do with fourth doses? Nothing. Nobody is forcing you to take them. No one is restricting your freedom for not having a booster.
Stop spreading fear. Go out and enjoy your life. You might be a happier person for it.
That's what you wanted, right?
If you think people's freedoms aren't being restricted still, then you are either willfully blind, or don't care. Because there are still a lot of people that are not permitted to return to work and are unemployed as the results of both the gov and/or employer imposed original vaccine mandate, and now an employer imposed and soon to be gov imposed booster mandate. If you think they won't continue to use this as a punitive measure to ostracize their detractors and consolidate political power, well then you're just ignorant.Bingo Fuel wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 7:37 am Just shows me you've got nothing but straw man arguments. Your pathetic insults are just sad. Keep living in your right wing bubble, where you clearly don't talk to any actial Leftists. You may have more in common with them than you think.
And no, I didn't vote for Trudeau.
What does any of this have to do with fourth doses? Nothing. Nobody is forcing you to take them. No one is restricting your freedom for not having a booster.
Stop spreading fear. Go out and enjoy your life. You might be a happier person for it.
That's what you wanted, right?
LolCpnCrunch wrote: ↑Mon Jul 04, 2022 8:13 pm Here is a preprint of a multi-center study in the US showing efficacy of mRNA vaccines with booster against hospitalization from Omicron is about 80% vs 46% for just one dose:
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101 ... 22276228v1
Well you can look at the earlier peer reviewed studies. This is just the most recent data, and it matches ontarios figures. Does nobody believe science? What causes your plane to fly? Your hot air?Index wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 2:26 pmLolCpnCrunch wrote: ↑Mon Jul 04, 2022 8:13 pm Here is a preprint of a multi-center study in the US showing efficacy of mRNA vaccines with booster against hospitalization from Omicron is about 80% vs 46% for just one dose:
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101 ... 22276228v1
First of all, not peer reviewed
Second, just go look and see who funded that study, that should tell you everything you need to know about how much you can "trust the science"
I don't understand you people who are so hell bent on this vaccine... Literally no one gives a shit about covid anymore, it barely makes the "news" and everyone is, finally, living their lives again. Fortunately, most have realized they're done with this crap, and if they get covid, so be it. I posted because I find people like you absolutely comedic at this point.
Inverted, altiplano, thatagedwell, stop feeding these trolls, let them take 76 booster shots, you'll never get through to them...
I hope you understand that science isn't exactly 100% full proof and correct all the time, because as much as I hate to say it, science actually does change (and this statement has no reference or bearing on the science of covid changing every 5 minutes)CpnCrunch wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 3:35 pmWell you can look at the earlier peer reviewed studies. This is just the most recent data, and it matches ontarios figures. Does nobody believe science? What causes your plane to fly? Your hot air?Index wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 2:26 pmLolCpnCrunch wrote: ↑Mon Jul 04, 2022 8:13 pm Here is a preprint of a multi-center study in the US showing efficacy of mRNA vaccines with booster against hospitalization from Omicron is about 80% vs 46% for just one dose:
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101 ... 22276228v1
First of all, not peer reviewed
Second, just go look and see who funded that study, that should tell you everything you need to know about how much you can "trust the science"
I don't understand you people who are so hell bent on this vaccine... Literally no one gives a shit about covid anymore, it barely makes the "news" and everyone is, finally, living their lives again. Fortunately, most have realized they're done with this crap, and if they get covid, so be it. I posted because I find people like you absolutely comedic at this point.
Inverted, altiplano, thatagedwell, stop feeding these trolls, let them take 76 booster shots, you'll never get through to them...
Well I'm still waiting for any of you guys to post anything that refutes the evidence I posted. You can bitch and complain all you like that "science changes", but if you want to do that you need to have some evidence to the contrary. Is the science of flight not settled? Why do we trust very complex planes?Index wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 5:19 pm I hope you understand that science isn't exactly 100% full proof and correct all the time, because as much as I hate to say it, science actually does change (and this statement has no reference or bearing on the science of covid changing every 5 minutes)
Anyway, i'm done with trolls like you, here's a reading, direct from scientific american that even claims science isn't full proof
https://www.scientificamerican.com/arti ... ure-wrong/
I think Bill Gates and Satan are the same person. Trudeau is way too stupid to be Satan. He's just a puppet for the WEF/Globalist scum.CpnCrunch wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 6:05 pmWell I'm still waiting for any of you guys to post anything that refutes the evidence I posted. You can bitch and complain all you like that "science changes", but if you want to do that you need to have some evidence to the contrary. Is the science of flight not settled? Why do we trust very complex planes?Index wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 5:19 pm I hope you understand that science isn't exactly 100% full proof and correct all the time, because as much as I hate to say it, science actually does change (and this statement has no reference or bearing on the science of covid changing every 5 minutes)
Anyway, i'm done with trolls like you, here's a reading, direct from scientific american that even claims science isn't full proof
https://www.scientificamerican.com/arti ... ure-wrong/
Of course science changes. At any point in time there is a certain weight of evidence, and the greater that weight then the greater the confidence we can have in any particular aspect of science. At this point in time there is overwhelming evidence that covid vaccines significantly protect against hospitalisation and death from omicron, particularly for over 60s. But for some reason avcanada experts think this is some great conspiracy theory by the vaccine companies in league with Bill Gates, Justin Trudeau and Satan. I'm 50/50 as to whether you're all just expert trolls, or you do in fact believe this anti-science BS.
Ah, a brexiter, trumper or similar protectionist. See how well those ideas are turning out.
No, those posters follow science, understand science and have brain cells.WellThatAgedWell wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 6:55 am Bingo fuel and cpncrunch love Russian and Chinese style government. They don’t have Canadian values, don’t let them fool you. If they were the advisor of our great leader JT they would tell him we need mandatory jabs for all, especially our children because they are the biggest germ spreaders.
Remember JT said he admires china's dictatorship… that was probably the statement he made that sold bingo fuel on being a liberal.
There is no fourth dose mandate. People are free to choose to get them, or not.
There are still mandates. Plenty of people not permitted back to work, and some workplaces are imposing booster mandates. Just because you are subject to them, doesn't mean other people are not. Maybe you should start standing up for people's rights? Or maybe supporting medical fascism is easier when it doesn't affect you? I mean....Bingo Fuel wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 7:30 pmThere is no fourth dose mandate. People are free to choose to get them, or not.
BE02 Driver wrote: ↑Wed Jul 06, 2022 6:43 amThere are still mandates. Plenty of people not permitted back to work, and some workplaces are imposing booster mandates. Just because you are subject to them, doesn't mean other people are not. Maybe you should start standing up for people's rights? Or maybe supporting medical fascism is easier when it doesn't affect you? I mean....Bingo Fuel wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 7:30 pmThere is no fourth dose mandate. People are free to choose to get them, or not.
First they came for the Anti-vaxxers
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Anti-vaxxer
Then they came for the Truckers
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Trucker
Then they came for the Conservatives
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Conservative
Then they came for me
And there was no one left
To speak out for me
WellThatAgedWell wrote: ↑Wed Jul 06, 2022 8:51 am Who decides what social responsibility looks like? Is this up to government? Churches? Do people get to vote on it?
Probably lots of things you do on a daily basis that are not socially responsible. Do you ever drive 20 over a speed limit? Who is less responsible you or the person who doesn't want a vaccine that doesn't prevent transmission.
Why don't we have a mandate that anyone who has ever had a speeding ticket can no longer drive to work? All the socially irresponsible people can be kept off the road and we can save lives. Seems reasonable to me.
I'm more worried about shit drivers on the road than people who won't take a covid vaccine. Why doesn't Trudeau protect me from them? Ban them from driving!
Bingo Fuel wrote: ↑Wed Jul 06, 2022 9:59 am Man, how many alt accounts does this guy have? The trolling is just obvious at this point.
You stand up for people's rights? Are you going to stand up for Indigenous land claims? Police brutality against visible minorities? No. You only stand up for those who share your ideals.BE02 Driver wrote: ↑Wed Jul 06, 2022 6:43 am
There are still mandates. Plenty of people not permitted back to work, and some workplaces are imposing booster mandates. Just because you are subject to them, doesn't mean other people are not. Maybe you should start standing up for people's rights? Or maybe supporting medical fascism is easier when it doesn't affect you? I mean....
First they came for the Anti-vaxxers
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Anti-vaxxer
Then they came for the Truckers
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Trucker
Then they came for the Conservatives
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Conservative
Then they came for me
And there was no one left
To speak out for me
I do not support the Roe V Wade decision in the south.WellThatAgedWell wrote: ↑Wed Jul 06, 2022 10:24 am Hey ghostrider I suppose you support the decision on roe vs wade down south then. We need gov to tell us what is socially responsible and people should have no vote or say.
Everyone is ok with gov rules until its a rule they don't agree with.
Not sure I agree that gov always gets it right and knows the science.
You said the gov is responsible to decide what is socially responsible. That's what you get with your logic.GhostRider6 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 06, 2022 10:53 amI do not support the Roe V Wade decision in the south.WellThatAgedWell wrote: ↑Wed Jul 06, 2022 10:24 am Hey ghostrider I suppose you support the decision on roe vs wade down south then. We need gov to tell us what is socially responsible and people should have no vote or say.
Everyone is ok with gov rules until its a rule they don't agree with.
Not sure I agree that gov always gets it right and knows the science.
A woman’s right to bodily autonomy has nothing to do with a global emergency /deadly pandemic. The two aren’t even comparable.
You refusing to vaccinate puts everyone in danger around you ..you can give the virus to someone like myself with underlying conditions. Your decision impacts everyone.
Also, If you wind up in the hospital you can take up a bed from someone who needs it.
Also, you did have the ability to exercise bodily autonomy. Many choose to be vaccinated .. nobody forced anyone.