AIRLINE CHAOS.

[rookiepilot]

Old, surly, lazy, cabin staff.

What is the maximum amount of old that you’d find acceptable? There must be a line you’d draw somewhere.

Anyone older than him is infirm and needs to retire. Anyone younger than him is lazy and incompetent.

I love all these responses by AC drones or those sucking up to become one. Pretty lame life ambition if you ask me.

[rookiepilot]

I run a small business, don’t do “excuses”. Hire appropriate staff!

Isn't your business just yourself?

Have three - 4 more more international trips planned in next 12 months. Won’t be AC. I’ll happily pay more. I’ll email for my legally owed compensation, and they will ignore it. Prediction.

Venting over.

So which airline are you going to use?

Did you read the word “international”? Loads of choices.

[CpnCrunch]

Did you read the word “international”? Loads of choices.

Well then, let us know your choice of airline so we can armchair quarterback their safety and reliability record.

[rookiepilot]

Did you read the word “international”? Loads of choices.

Well then, let us know your choice of airline so we can armchair quarterback their safety and reliability record.

Actually…no. Its my money to spend as I please.

I wouldn’t even have booked AC on my last leg except others were sold out.

[CpnCrunch]

Actually…no. Its my money to spend as I please.

I wouldn’t even have booked AC on my last leg except others were sold out.

Well let's see, you mentioned Cathay and Singapore.

Cathay are running at 4% of pre-pandemic capacity and are looking to hire 700 pilots, 2000 cabin crew, and 1300 airport staff:

https://liveandletsfly.com/cathay-pacific-hiring/

I wonder how that will work out?

Let's say you want to fly to Europe. Apart from AC the only flights to EGLL are BA, and they are having a really shitty time at the moment:

https://ca.finance.yahoo.com/news/briti ... 01719.html

"British Airways passengers wait days to be reunited with their bags amid Heathrow luggage mountain"

I can't find any bad news for Singapore, so you might actually be safe there.

[photofly]

I wouldn’t even have booked AC on my last leg except others were sold out.

I'm fairly sure that's relevant, somehow.

[rookiepilot]

Just did the final segment YVR-YYZ.

Talk about night and day. Can you say pleasant all around. Ground and flight crews. Clean plane. No FA’s patrolling looking eagerly for tiny mask violations. One announcement at beginning fhats it.

AC why are you putting your bag crews on money making International flights?

Don’t get it.

[Tbayer2021]

Just did the final segment YVR-YYZ.

Talk about night and day. Can you say pleasant all around. Ground and flight crews. Clean plane. No FA’s patrolling looking eagerly for tiny mask violations. One announcement at beginning fhats it.

AC why are you putting your bag crews on money making International flights?

Don’t get it.

Its called seniority bidding, rookie. Don't you know?

[rookiepilot]

Just did the final segment YVR-YYZ.

Talk about night and day. Can you say pleasant all around. Ground and flight crews. Clean plane. No FA’s patrolling looking eagerly for tiny mask violations. One announcement at beginning fhats it.

AC why are you putting your bag crews on money making International flights?

Don’t get it.

Its called seniority bidding, rookie. Don't you know?

Bizzaro concept to a trader. Incomprehensible.

[rookiepilot]

You're a grown up, you can ensure that your own seat belt is fastened. It would seem your favourite activity is to complain about anything and everything so. No one wants to hear what you have to say about one time a flight attendant was mean to you so now you will spend forever hating air canada.

Ahhhh. I am the ONLY complainer out there. As you and SPR have said. Are you AC employees? Are you Macho Men captains who wear your 4 bars in the mall to impress underage girls? That’s my guess. What a sad lot you AC drones are.

Think there are a few more than me with issues out there.

https://www.ctvnews.ca/mobile/canada/ai ... -1.5976331

https://www.cp24.com/news/passengers-ad ... -1.5978368

https://www.blogto.com/travel/2022/07/s ... g-luggage/

https://globalnews.ca/news/8971148/cana ... a-debacle/


I’ll be voting with my wallet.

[yhz41]

You're a grown up, you can ensure that your own seat belt is fastened. It would seem your favourite activity is to complain about anything and everything so. No one wants to hear what you have to say about one time a flight attendant was mean to you so now you will spend forever hating air canada.

Ahhhh. I am the ONLY complainer out there. As you and SPR have said. Are you AC employees? Are you Macho Men captains who wear your 4 bars in the mall to impress underage girls? That’s my guess. What a sad lot you AC drones are.

Think there are a few more than me with issues out there.

https://www.ctvnews.ca/mobile/canada/ai ... -1.5976331

https://www.cp24.com/news/passengers-ad ... -1.5978368

https://www.blogto.com/travel/2022/07/s ... g-luggage/

https://globalnews.ca/news/8971148/cana ... a-debacle/


I’ll be voting with my wallet.

Dude get a life. My God. No I don't work for AC. I happen to actually work in the industry unlike you, and all the airlines suck. Vote with your wallet all you want, you'll be back complaining about westjet in the near future because a gate agent called you a passenger instead of a guest. Cry me a river.

[rookiepilot]

I happen to actually work in the industry unlike you,

That WAS you I saw in the mall today preening up and down in front of the WalMart!

Bravo!

[yhz41]

I happen to actually work in the industry unlike you,

That WAS you I saw in the mall today preening up and down in front of the WalMart!

Bravo!

??? I don't have a Walmart in my town, only a zellers.

[702pipeliner]

I happen to actually work in the industry unlike you,

That WAS you I saw in the mall today preening up and down in front of the WalMart!

Bravo!

??? I don't have a Walmart in my town, only a zellers.

He only saw you because he was working his Walmart greeter roll.

[rookiepilot]

That WAS you I saw in the mall today preening up and down in front of the WalMart!

Bravo!

??? I don't have a Walmart in my town, only a zellers.

He only saw you because he was working his Walmart greeter roll.

Actually that sounds more pleasant than your industry.

[yhz41]

??? I don't have a Walmart in my town, only a zellers.

He only saw you because he was working his Walmart greeter roll.

Actually that sounds more pleasant than your industry.

Probably pays better too, I understand now why you say your business is so important.

[rookiepilot]

He only saw you because he was working his Walmart greeter roll.

Actually that sounds more pleasant than your industry.

Probably pays better too, I understand now why you say your business is so important.

Well its all I am qualified to do, as an unemployable degenerate

[rookiepilot]

https://www.reuters.com/business/aerosp ... 022-07-10/

Won’t see anything like this from Canada. No chance.

And my wife’s flight home was cancelled— literally at the last second. “Technical” issues (code for —- you aren’t due compensation).

She had almost got on her first flight — this is all in Canada this time —which would have had her stuck at the connection point until the rebooked flight the next day. No apology. No offer of nothing. You telling me they didn’t know way in advance? They don’t care. Thankfully home now with no issues.

You think I’m nuts enough to book AC overseas in September? Which will be a business class fare — BTW. Another, by January. I’ll give that money to an overseas carrier. Screw you AC and the horse you rode in on.

Rogers cell service out for less than 24 hours: Profuse apologies every hour. Credits coming.

AC flight Chaos for weeks? Not a real apology to be found. We don’t give a shit — piss poor attitude. Sit down, shut up, if you’re lucky we won’t kick you off the flight like in Montreal.

AC’s arrogance — the entire industry in Canada— really ticks me off. Only matched by the arrogance of the apologists here who are in reality glorified bus drivers.

I know none of you give a shit, i can tell, wait till its your spouse stuck somewhere who doesn’t travel on their own that often. Passengers shouldn’t have to fight for their rights given by law and in an airline’s own published tariff!

Layoff notices will bring cheers in my house.

[CpnCrunch]

https://www.reuters.com/business/aerosp ... 022-07-10/

Won’t see anything like this from Canada. No chance.

And my wife’s flight home was cancelled— literally at the last second. “Technical” issues (code for —- you aren’t due compensation).

She had almost got on her first flight — this is all in Canada this time —which would have had her stuck at the connection point until the rebooked flight the next day. No apology. No offer of nothing. You telling me they didn’t know way in advance? They don’t care. Thankfully home now with no issues. You think I’m nuts enough to book AC overseas in September?

Rogers cell service out for less than 24 hours: Profuse apologies every hour. Credits coming.

AC flight Chaos for weeks? Not a real apology to be found. We don’t give a shit — piss poor attitude. Sit down, shut up, if you’re lucky we won’t kick you off the flight like in Montreal.

AC’s arrogance — the entire industry in Canada— really ticks me off. Only matched by the arrogance of the apologists here who are in reality glorified bus drivers.

I know none of you give a shit, i can tell, wait till its your spouse stuck somewhere who doesn’t travel on their own that often. Passengers shouldn’t have to fight for their rights given by law and in an airline’s own published tariff!

WJ has been doing this for quite a while. I guess the airlines have finally figured out that it's better to just lie about the reason for the cancellation.

[Hangry]

https://www.reuters.com/business/aerosp ... 022-07-10/

Won’t see anything like this from Canada. No chance.

And my wife’s flight home was cancelled— literally at the last second. “Technical” issues (code for —- you aren’t due compensation).

She had almost got on her first flight — this is all in Canada this time —which would have had her stuck at the connection point until the rebooked flight the next day. No apology. No offer of nothing. You telling me they didn’t know way in advance? They don’t care. Thankfully home now with no issues.

You think I’m nuts enough to book AC overseas in September? Which will be a business class fare — BTW. Another, by January. I’ll give that money to an overseas carrier. Screw you AC and the horse you rode in on.

Rogers cell service out for less than 24 hours: Profuse apologies every hour. Credits coming.

AC flight Chaos for weeks? Not a real apology to be found. We don’t give a shit — piss poor attitude. Sit down, shut up, if you’re lucky we won’t kick you off the flight like in Montreal.

AC’s arrogance — the entire industry in Canada— really ticks me off. Only matched by the arrogance of the apologists here who are in reality glorified bus drivers.

I know none of you give a shit, i can tell, wait till its your spouse stuck somewhere who doesn’t travel on their own that often. Passengers shouldn’t have to fight for their rights given by law and in an airline’s own published tariff!

Layoff notices will bring cheers in my house.

Maybe it’s time for another break. A mental health one.

[rookiepilot]

What its time for, is unrestricted open skies agreements.

Competition is a wonderful thing….

You’re a funny bunch, worker bee pilots.

The same group that screams for rule of law and runs to a lawyer whenever the slightest hint of getting screwed in your employment contracts appears, rails against training bonds constantly and the rule of law, you hate your own customers so much you cheer on your employer when they try to screw them.

Hypocrisy, anyone?

How many posts do we see bitching about commuting woes, but my wife gets stuck, well thats just a customer. F’em.

[DanWEC]

We're glorified bus drivers? I'd check yourself real quick.

[7ECA]

Rogers cell service out for less than 24 hours: Profuse apologies every hour. Credits coming.

What in the hell are you talking about? For a number of hours, Rogers and it's underling companies said nothing whatsoever about an outage; and even insisted there were no known network issues. Once again, when it became patently obvious across the whole fucking country that there most certain WAS an outage - hard to hide it when even Federal Departments/Agencies are offline in addition to 911 services - then they belatedly say, we're investigating an issue affecting a limited number of customers... Goodness me, what exemplary customer service. And then, it was tweets every few hours in both official languages saying along the lines of; we're aware of an issue and investigating, there is no ETA of a restoration of services.

As for credits, it'll be the same paltry credit handed out last time (which was just 15 months ago, I might add) in which Rogers in it's infinite benevolence, gave customers the equivalent of one day off of their bill. Meaning that most people got around a $1.

How about, screw Rogers and the horse it rode in on? Oh, and if Mr. Staffieri actually had any sense of decency, his taking full responsibility would see him walking the plank and resigning. But, then again, CEOs don't actually have to take real "responsibility" for anything, it's much easier to furrow the brow and give the peons a few dollars in credit... and fire a maintenance tech. Besides, if he did resign, Rogers shareholders would have to ensure he received a proper golden parachute for all his years of dedication and fine work.

[rookiepilot]

Rogers cell service out for less than 24 hours: Profuse apologies every hour. Credits coming.

What in the hell are you talking about? For a number of hours, Rogers and it's underling companies said nothing whatsoever about an outage; and even insisted there were no known network issues. Once again, when it became patently obvious across the whole fucking country that there most certain WAS an outage - hard to hide it when even Federal Departments/Agencies are offline in addition to 911 services - then they belatedly say, we're investigating an issue affecting a limited number of customers... Goodness me, what exemplary customer service. And then, it was tweets every few hours in both official languages saying along the lines of; we're aware of an issue and investigating, there is no ETA of a restoration of services.

As for credits, it'll be the same paltry credit handed out last time (which was just 15 months ago, I might add) in which Rogers in it's infinite benevolence, gave customers the equivalent of one day off of their bill. Meaning that most people got around a $1.

How about, screw Rogers and the horse it rode in on? Oh, and if Mr. Staffieri actually had any sense of decency, his taking full responsibility would see him walking the plank and resigning. But, then again, CEOs don't actually have to take real "responsibility" for anything, it's much easier to furrow the brow and give the peons a few dollars in credit... and fire a maintenance tech. Besides, if he did resign, Rogers shareholders would have to ensure he received a proper golden parachute for all his years of dedication and fine work.

Oh my, you are a naive one. How have you made it this far?

Rogers gets hit by what is an obvious external cyberattack and is down for one day.

AC has had chaos for weeks due to their own incompetence that anyone could have seen coming, and along with the government, does nothing about it, but blame its own customers!

Give your head a shake.

[7ECA]

Time for a break again, bud.

I guess then that the big bad government is lying when it says that there is no evidence of a cyberattack causing the network disruption? Or is Rogers lying as well, saying that it was maintenance related? Maybe Rogers was lying last time too, because now this is two maintenance related outages...

You can't have it both ways rookie, it's either the company's fault or the government's. Either the company, and it's all airlines (not just Air Canada), failed to anticipate that people whom had been laid off two years ago would not come back; in addition to requiring additional training resources, etc. Or, the government is to blame (and it's Provincial as well as Federal - lest you try to simply blame Trudeau and co.) for not relaxing restrictions in a more measured manner and simply dropping them. It's odd to hear a stubborn free market, laissez faire capital C Capitalist, want government intervention in private companies when things go sideways. Pretty naive of you to say that, rookie, unless you're just another private enterprise type who wants to socialize your losses and privatize the profits...