PPC -

Pitts99 · Post by **Pitts99** » Sat Nov 12, 2005 7:06 am

Hi guys. I would like to know how a pilot applying for a company with a PPC paid by HRDC would be considered. Example, a PPC King Air for a pilot with ATPL + 200 hrs multi time and no king air experience. Is it an asset or a disadvantage in the actual job situation?

Legacy · Post by **Legacy** » Sat Nov 12, 2005 7:21 am

Oh great, now I'M paying for peoples PPC's.

Wasn't Me · Post by **Wasn't Me** » Sat Nov 12, 2005 8:02 am

Go for it. Some guys collect welfare others UI. If it helps you lad a job go for it.

snag · Post by **snag** » Sat Nov 12, 2005 8:34 am

Make sure you mention to your employer that the taxes he pays helped to pay for your training.

Doc · Post by **Doc** » Sat Nov 12, 2005 8:53 am

People buying PPC's should be soaked in large vats full of warm camel piss, dipped in shit, and staked out over an ant hill.

marktheone · Post by **marktheone** » Sat Nov 12, 2005 9:35 am

I would think that it wouldn't go over to well. Especially on the King air as every man and his dog has a PPC on that. My dog is gonna have his ride next week.

trey kule · Post by **trey kule** » Sat Nov 12, 2005 11:44 am

I normally dont get involved in these types of discusions, but Doc'c reply was both unprofesional and technically uncorrect.

The camel piss should be cooled so that the shit adheres better, and it does not repel the ants.

Over the Horn · Post by **Over the Horn** » Sat Nov 12, 2005 11:57 am

ROTFLMAO

Pitts99 · Post by **Pitts99** » Sat Nov 12, 2005 12:17 pm

Holly smoke, you are funny guys.
This questions his following a discussion that I had with some friends about the better way to get a good job without a lot of experience. This HRDC question shown up and I’m astonished to see that is possible to get a PPC paid by HRDC.
I was just wondering what others pilots and especially employers were thinking about that.
I share the same opinion than you guys about the people that pay for a job. But as individual that search a job, and don’t want to pay for a job, the temptation is there with HRDC. I won’t do it, because that breaks the market of job pilot and level by the bottom the condition of pilots generally.
Cheers

Speed Indeed · Post by **Speed Indeed** » Sat Nov 12, 2005 12:38 pm

Pitts 99, think of it this way as well.
You get hired by a company and then when everyone asks you where you worked before and got your king air time you say " i didnt work on king airs before, i went and had it paid for by your tax money." think of how well that would sit with your coworkers. think about all the friends they have that they have been trying to get on with their company that dont have king air time and you come along with no experience but a fresh PPC. You also were wondering what the better way to get a good job without a lot of experience was, GO GET THE EXPERIENCE, like everyone else did! One would ask, how do I get that experience? Ill tell you, there are plenty of ways to get the experience, it seems that people just want to do it the easiest way possible, regardless of the repercussions it has to the industry. The only thing buying PPCs does is ruin your reputation and the industry.

privateer · Post by **privateer** » Sat Nov 12, 2005 12:47 pm

Some people just don't get it, u know guys.....

You get these people who want to live at home and have mom cook for them. They don't want to work the ramp or whatever, they just want to pay there 20k and fly the airbus. or sorry have the airbus fly them.

Some people make me sick.

p.s. Especially those Regency guys........

Dust Devil · Post by **Dust Devil** » Sat Nov 12, 2005 1:10 pm

what's the difference if HRDC pays for a PPC or anyother training? HRDC helps people off welfare und UI. if thats the cheapest way to get people off the system to be less of a tax burden then who cares.

frog · Post by **frog** » Sat Nov 12, 2005 1:24 pm

HDRC would pay for half of the cost providing the training is done by an approved training unit in Canada. The employer or the employee has to pay for the other half.

Bede · Post by **Bede** » Sat Nov 12, 2005 1:28 pm

Some of you guys are ridiculus. He's not paying for his own PPC, he's getting HRDC to pay for it. I know at least two people who had their multi IFR payed for, and my wife could have, but decided to quit flying and change careers. I'd rather have this guy get a free PPC than the government to waste more money on something even more useless.

Doc · Post by **Doc** » Sat Nov 12, 2005 2:40 pm

Still using our tax dollars to compete with us for our jobs. But what he hey? Always wanted a 767/757 PPC! Of course, the training would have to take place in Canada? And you would have to be umemployed? Same rules a truck driver school!

xsbank · Post by **xsbank** » Sat Nov 12, 2005 6:13 pm

I heard of an ex-Canada 3000 guy who got a 604 type rating from HRDC. What do you think of that?

I 'paid my dues' about 35 years ago now, and what a fine waste of time that was.

Get whatever you can get out of the lousy feds, because soon you will be properly employed and you will continue to pay and pay and pay and you will never get another cent out of 'em. So ******f about "spending my tax dollars."

Besides, MY money goes to gun registration and Quebec ad. agencies.

Right Seat Captain · Post by **Right Seat Captain** » Sat Nov 12, 2005 7:22 pm

I wonder if HRDC realizes all they would be doing by paying for one person's PPC to get them off Welfare or UI, is making sure someone else doesn't get the job and they go on Welfare or UI. You're simply replacing one person for another. There are only so many jobs out there.

Of course, if you're in the situation where the government offers you money, by all means you should take it. Never turn down money from the feds.

water wings · Post by **water wings** » Sat Nov 12, 2005 7:36 pm

ohmygawd. this HRDC thing has been beaten to death and there doesn't seem to be any consitstency across the land.... HRDC did not want to pay for any aviation stuff and in fact would have preffered paying for my manager's course for McDonalds. I am impressed that they would still consider paying for an initial IFR, let alone a PPC. Good on ya if you managed to talk them into doing that as they told me i was scum and as i already had a commercial (which to them means Air Canda left seat) that i had all the skills needed to get a job - furthermore, the Mcdees in YWG is hiring. I don't think the companies want a bare PPC, experience on type is key - although if i get one more CP asking me if i have a PPC, i will snap. If i had one, i wouldn't be calling you for a job.....

PS: ants like sugar - not pee.

mikegtzg · Post by **mikegtzg** » Sat Nov 12, 2005 8:24 pm

Getting free money from the evil dark side (Fed Gov., Liberals, whoever is in power) is a proud accomplishment for any Canadian. They take so much away from us that if you have a chance...grab it. I'm not a career flyer but free money (which equates to hours & experience in your trade) should be 'exempt' from the PPC bad guy stuff I've read about here.