The Air Canada OTS thread

[a2btrail]

Calls going out for Dec 7th PIT. I can only confirm this on Jazz side of things so far.

[flying4dollars]

Calls going out for Dec 7th PIT. I can only confirm this on Jazz side of things so far.

Confirmed. I have OTS friends in that course

[schnitzel2k3]

How are guys still affording to make this move?

[schnitzel2k3]

How are guys still affording to make this move?

[canadian_aviator_4]

No idea, however pretty easy coming from most regionals where anything is a pay increase.

[MustFly]

Hey folks, long time lurker first time posting. I'm hoping to make the move to AC at some point. What would the fastest route to AC if a guy had 1700tt? I'm a king air captain with 500hrs PIC, have been offered an upgrade on a 1900, and I don't have any 705 time. Thanks!

[alkaseltzer]

How are guys still affording to make this move?

Did you think you voting no to the MOA would have made any difference?

[schnitzel2k3]

How are guys still affording to make this move?

Did you think you voting no to the MOA would have made any difference?

I think voting no to the MOA was important to let management know the constant cycle of taking from Peter to pay Paul has to end.

MOA still had flat pay - and my question still stands, how is this affordable?

[Alkasultzer]

Thankfully 80% of the voters weren't gullible terminal 'yes' voters.

Too many yes votes in the past have done permanent damage to this industry

Well done AC pilots!

[jpilot77]

Hey folks, long time lurker first time posting. I'm hoping to make the move to AC at some point. What would the fastest route to AC if a guy had 1700tt? I'm a king air captain with 500hrs PIC, have been offered an upgrade on a 1900, and I don't have any 705 time. Thanks!

King Air or 1900 is basically the same in the eyes of AC, I’d look for a FO spot on a jet 705. You have a good amount of PIC. Jet 705 would definitely help you out.

[canadian_aviator_4]

I can’t believe guys with 1700 hours being hired over atpls at jazz With over 4000k hours. World has turned upside down for sure.

[jpilot77]

I can’t believe guys with 1700 hours being hired over atpls at jazz With over 4000k hours. World has turned upside down for sure.

Nobody’s getting hired at AC with less than 2000 hours, as for Jazz they’re starting to get hired in order of seniority. As quickly as was supposed to be no.

[canadian_aviator_4]

Definitely not as quickly as possible, considering there is a 250 pilot deficit projected to the end of Dec 31, if hiring remains at the current rate.

[altiplano]

Hey folks, long time lurker first time posting. I'm hoping to make the move to AC at some point. What would the fastest route to AC if a guy had 1700tt? I'm a king air captain with 500hrs PIC, have been offered an upgrade on a 1900, and I don't have any 705 time. Thanks!

King Air or 1900 is basically the same in the eyes of AC, I’d look for a FO spot on a jet 705. You have a good amount of PIC. Jet 705 would definitely help you out.

Actually AC views large aircraft PIC (over 12566 lbs.) more favourably. They specifically have you break it down in their online application.

[FL030]

Actually AC views large aircraft PIC (over 12566 lbs.) more favourably. They specifically have you break it down in their online application.

I definitely think this is what got my foot in the door. I don't think it's what got me hired but it did get me to the next step of online interview and testing.

[Kingair200]

during the interview, there were some yes or no questions, one of them was if i failed any checkride, flight test.

how much do they weight if you failed a flight test before?

[flying4dollars]

during the interview, there were some yes or no questions, one of them was if i failed any checkride, flight test.

how much do they weight if you failed a flight test before?

If you have, be honest. It will score more favourably than you'd think. AC likes people who can admit to making mistakes if they can recognize what, why and how they've learned from it. It shows that they can trust you. From my understanding, there are 3 things here that could get you fired. Lying, harassment and wilful gross negligence.

You guys can correct me if I'm wrong, but this was the impression I got from a combination of talking to some senior managers, reading the policies, and speaking with more senior pilots.

[newcomer]

I said I failed a checkride when I interviewed a few months ago, and I still got hired. They want you to be honest.

[futboler14]

I failed one 8 years ago. Flew at WJ and AC since then.

Excellent opportunity to explain what you learned. You learned something, right?

[Tbayer2021]

I've never heard of a failure or two being a problem at any airline during the interview process. They're just trying to see if there is a consistent history of failures. They would be concerned if your answer would have been something like, always failing an initial type and needing extra training to get through.

[tbayav8er]

Yeah, like others have said, be honest about it and explain what you learned. It's pretty hard to go an entire career without messing up on a ride. Happens to lots of us at some point.

[Kingair200]

thank you so much for everyone's input. i guess i don't have to worry too much then.

as per PIT course, how do they decide what are the position available for that particular ground scchools? training capacity or what positions they need more pilots at that stage?

and also if they offer you a position , do u get to choose to defer ?

once again, many thanks for everyone's view here. much appreciated.

[PostmasterGeneral]

thank you so much for everyone's input. i guess i don't have to worry too much then.

as per PIT course, how do they decide what are the position available for that particular ground scchools? training capacity or what positions they need more pilots at that stage?

and also if they offer you a position , do u get to choose to defer ?

once again, many thanks for everyone's view here. much appreciated.

For your initial course, the company has the right to assign you a position. Expect this to happen if you already have time on type (737, 777, 787, etc)

You can not defer. You can quit. You can bid off of your assigned equipment once your new hire freeze is up.

[Kingair200]

thank you so much for everyone's input. i guess i don't have to worry too much then.

as per PIT course, how do they decide what are the position available for that particular ground scchools? training capacity or what positions they need more pilots at that stage?

and also if they offer you a position , do u get to choose to defer ?

once again, many thanks for everyone's view here. much appreciated.

For your initial course, the company has the right to assign you a position. Expect this to happen if you already have time on type (737, 777, 787, etc)

You can not defer. You can quit. You can bid off of your assigned equipment once your new hire freeze is up.

i see. what about when they email you saying your interview is successful and offering you a pit course, can you choose to defer to later date?

Also wondering if anyone did their interview early this month and hear anything from them yet?

thanks again for any inputs

[PostmasterGeneral]

thank you so much for everyone's input. i guess i don't have to worry too much then.

as per PIT course, how do they decide what are the position available for that particular ground scchools? training capacity or what positions they need more pilots at that stage?

and also if they offer you a position , do u get to choose to defer ?

once again, many thanks for everyone's view here. much appreciated.

For your initial course, the company has the right to assign you a position. Expect this to happen if you already have time on type (737, 777, 787, etc)

You can not defer. You can quit. You can bid off of your assigned equipment once your new hire freeze is up.

i see. what about when they email you saying your interview is successful and offering you a pit course, can you choose to defer to later date?

Also wondering if anyone did their interview early this month and hear anything from them yet?

thanks again for any inputs

Why would you want to defer? Depending on where you draw seniority, each course that you defer puts you 30-40 numbers down in seniority. Deferring for a month could have you almost 80 numbers below where you could have been.