Being hired as an international student

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maddison
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Being hired as an international student

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Hi guys I have some questions to get information, I just come here 2 months ago as an international student.
I came here because I was a student pilot in my country Korea but its domestic industries are too small and covid also happened, so it's pretty difficult to be hired even if you have a 1000-hour flight time.
My first language is not English, so I have a few problems, I can understand when my instructor teaches me, and when studying myself. but when I do a conversation with other guys it is quite difficult for me, and I failed an English proficiency test also :cry: :cry:
there are no chances to learn English, students study themselves not a group, I study English by watching movies and talk show without subtitles but I can't feel I am getting better I want to know how did you guys improve English.

I am curious about even I can be hired? who can't speak English fluently, I have to compete with Canadians and also who speak English as a first language so nowadays I am really depressed and feeling to do I have to give up.

if I will get CPL luckily what do you guys recommend?? instructor, rampie, and other entry jobs ex)survey, bush pilot
there are lots of jobs which are for over 1000 hours but no entry jobs... ㅠㅠ
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Re: Being hired as an international student

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Mrs.Bacon is a non-native english speaker - as a result we often have friends/acquaintances from her home country visiting or living in our community to 'learn English.' I always tell them to avoid people from their own country like the plague.

So: See/hear someone speaking Korean - run the other way!
Perhaps join a casual sports league where there will be the opportunity to socialize in English before/during/after the games or practices?
Take a course though your local rec centre or college - again, with the goal of socialising in English..

English is an absolutely stupid language sometimes (often?) Good Luck!
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Re: Being hired as an international student

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maddison wrote: Fri Dec 09, 2022 9:43 pm Hi guys I have some questions to get information, I just come here 2 months ago as an international student.
I came here because I was a student pilot in my country Korea but its domestic industries are too small and covid also happened, so it's pretty difficult to be hired even if you have a 1000-hour flight time.
My first language is not English, so I have a few problems, I can understand when my instructor teaches me, and when studying myself. but when I do a conversation with other guys it is quite difficult for me, and I failed an English proficiency test also :cry: :cry:
there are no chances to learn English, students study themselves not a group, I study English by watching movies and talk show without subtitles but I can't feel I am getting better I want to know how did you guys improve English.

I am curious about even I can be hired? who can't speak English fluently, I have to compete with Canadians and also who speak English as a first language so nowadays I am really depressed and feeling to do I have to give up.

if I will get CPL luckily what do you guys recommend?? instructor, rampie, and other entry jobs ex)survey, bush pilot
there are lots of jobs which are for over 1000 hours but no entry jobs... ㅠㅠ
There are 3 things here you need to worry about, before even thinking of working as a pilot in Canada.
1. Have the legal right to live and work in this country
2. Learn English to a minimum of ICAO Level 4 (look that up if you don't know what it is)
3. Get you licenses and ratings.
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Re: Being hired as an international student

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What helped me a lot was watching movies, reading news articles and if you don't have anybody to talk to, you can always talk to yourself. Imagine that you're presenting something to a group of people and talking to them. Catch your mistakes, correct them and go over again. You can pretend that you're a flight instructor and teaching students steep turns, stalls, etc. Obviously talking to your roommates or just socializing is much better practice, however it depends on your social skills and not all of us are extroverts.

If you're already in Canada, you have to play catch up game. It's challenging but rewarding in the end. Don't give up, don't be afraid and study hard.

As far as job opportunities, instructing can be fun. Depends if you want to do it or not. The rating itself is difficult but you'll meet lots of different people with different personalities. Depending on the flight school, your pay might suck. Don't be surprised if you see 400$ in your paycheque during winter months.

Ramp is definitely not for everybody. It's cold, it's dirty and you constantly break your back. If you end up with a good company it might take only 6 months or so to flight line. But nobody can promise anything.

There are some nice 703 (Air Taxi) companies that do maintain their aircraft well, have glass cockpit with working autopilot installed and warm air blowing into the cabin(you will need it during winter). You can do your research once you're ready for job hunting.

Focus on your studies, be well prepared for every lesson, don't give up on your English and eventually it will pay itself off. Good luck!

P.S. I also came as an international student with no family here, I know how challenging it can be.
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Re: Being hired as an international student

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Anytime you’re learning a new language, it sounds silly, but watch children’s programming. They often feature dialogue at a slower cadence, and tend to use more basic words and phrases.
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