Companies that DO NOT still require the Covid Jab for Employment

[dabigbadwolf]

I see that a lot of companies are currently hiring but yet when I applied to one recently and got a call back, I was told that I still needed to have this bio-weapon injected in me to be able to work for them.

Going forward, I would like for people to post below which company still require this jab for their employees and which companies do not. It would help in the job search.

Thanks

[rigpiggy]

Better to name/shame those that do

[digits_]

Not referring to it as a 'bio-weapon' would likely increase your chances of getting hired as well.

Regardless of what you personally think about it, or what their company policy is, you'll very likely encounter vaccinated people who will weigh in on the decision to hire you.

[rando]

Make sure you wear a mask to the interview. This demonstrates compassion and life saving.

And when they ask how will you survive on the wage presented especially considering inflation... You say inflation is worth it because we saved lives with the policies that got us here.

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[Inverted2]

Porter ads currently say the jab is required.

I haven’t gotten one in 15 months. Not sure that even counts as “immunized” anymore.

[CortoMaltese]

Porter requires all employees (sorry, all «team members») to be fully vaccinated, but they don't precise what it means (boosters??). I told them what I thought of the way to take care of my health when I declined their offer (they hired me a few months ago), I had a reply without any signature saying they «understand my choice».


There are also companies who do not require the covid vaccine in their ad, but the training is done in the US, therefore you have to be vaccinated to work for them...

[rigpiggy]

Depends how you get there. Drive across no problem, get on the plane.....omg you have to be vaccinated

[RoAF-Mig21]

Porter ads currently say the jab is required.

I haven’t gotten one in 15 months. Not sure that even counts as “immunized” anymore.

Good question. I got my 3rd shot in March of this year. I was not planning to get it, but travel requirements to some European countries said I needed a booster beyond 270 days... I don't know if that's still the case.

That's the tricky part of this industry. You can be a flight instructor never flying more than 300nm beyond your home airport or a widebody pilot that flies to Europe, Asia, Australia, South America and Africa. Every country seems to have their own rules, that often change.

[cdnavater]

Porter requires all employees (sorry, all «team members») to be fully vaccinated, but they don't precise what it means (boosters??). I told them what I thought of the way to take care of my health when I declined their offer (they hired me a few months ago), I had a reply without any signature saying they «understand my choice».


There are also companies who do not require the covid vaccine in their ad, but the training is done in the US, therefore you have to be vaccinated to work for them...

You’re silly!

[Grey_Wolf]

Porter requires all employees (sorry, all «team members») to be fully vaccinated, but they don't precise what it means (boosters??).

As far as I know, Porter followed the Federal Government's rules at the time. You needed the primary set (2 shots + 2 weeks) in order to travel. Those who opted not to get the shot, were placed on a leave of absence; those with legitimate reasons not to get the shot were accommodated, as required by law.

That said, the rules changed again, and you do not need shots or boosters to travel domestically.
Internationally, since the USA requires 2 shots to gain access by air or land, well ...

Since Porter flies CAN/USA, it stands to reason that crews are required to have 2 shots. Simple?

[Inverted2]

Depends how you get there. Drive across no problem, get on the plane.....omg you have to be vaccinated

Hit & miss. I’ve driven across a few times and they are still asking for proof of the clot shot about 50% of the time. Depends on who’s working at the time.

[rando]

those with legitimate reasons not to get the shot were accommodated, as required by law.

Who decides what is legitimate?

Do we still call this thing a vaccine really?

It doesn’t prevent hospitalization, it doesn’t prevent death, it doesn’t prevent symptoms, or transmission. But hypothetically it might prevent some of the prior points if you take the booster every 3 months… I just don’t know what to compare this to as I have never seen a vaccine that requires boosters on such a schedule. It might just be the least effective vaccine ever mandated. And if the efficacy is crap, we should brand accordingly. We should not group it with small pox vax, polio vax etc. I think it’s more of a placebo than anything. Everyone takes the shot, gets a cold and then says oh thank god it would have been so much worse without getting my Covid booster.

[CortoMaltese]

Internationally, since the USA requires 2 shots to gain access by air or land, well ...

Since Porter flies CAN/USA, it stands to reason that crews are required to have 2 shots. Simple?

Flight crew member on duty are exempt from the US mandatory vaccination. So, unless you fly as a pax, you don't have to be vaccinated.

You’re silly!

Why? Because I don't want to take the risk of the shot and I'm ready to not fly anymore? I know a few people who would have lost their class 1 medical aptitude if they were pilots, following this vaccine. I don't want to lose my good health.
As we say in aviation, «When in doubt, don't...»

[cdnavater]

Internationally, since the USA requires 2 shots to gain access by air or land, well ...

Since Porter flies CAN/USA, it stands to reason that crews are required to have 2 shots. Simple?

Flight crew member on duty are exempt from the US mandatory vaccination. So, unless you fly as a pax, you don't have to be vaccinated.

You’re silly!

Why? Because I don't want to take the risk of the shot and I'm ready to not fly anymore? I know a few people who would have lost their class 1 medical aptitude if they were pilots, following this vaccine. I don't want to lose my good health.
As we say in aviation, «When in doubt, don't...»

Ok, fair, I don’t know a single person who had ill effects from it, not one.
I commend you on your steadfastness but I do think you are silly for giving up so much based on anecdotal evidence and I think you might be exaggerating about how many you know etc… either way the chances are pretty low and the restrictions are not likely going away so you might very well be giving up your career.
For what’s it’s worth, at least you appear to be making this decision from a logical point of view, ie; not conspiracy based.
I wish you well

[CortoMaltese]

Thanks for that reply. This is different from the usual name calling.
Yes, I took my decision because of what happened around me, not because of some theory.
First, I'm not at risk of dying from Covid, or the risk is only 0.00x % at my age and health condition.
Last year, the vaccines were new and I wasn't sure what to think so I choose to wait and see.
Last winter, I had covid from a fully vaxxed friend and it was just a running nose for me, so I continued with the «when in doubt, don't»...
This year, I decided to never take it. We are now at 4 friends (30 to 50 years old, very good health, one active athlete) who got serious side effects (heart/brain required surgery to remove big clots, they are on drugs for the rest of their life probably...) following the vaccine (and the cause is officialy the vaccine for them, not a theory).
You add another friend who died from a stroke recently (two brain surgery to remove some big clots), and who just took his fourth shot (he was very serious with covid, double masked even outside, vaxxed as soon as it was vailable, keeping his distance from everyone, etc), but this case is only a theory. There are lot of similar stories now. And if you look at all those people with various issues in the last year and a half, all those young athletes dying while doing their sport, etc. I'm now seriously in doubt !
And it officially doesn't prevent transmission, so I won't protect anyone by taking it.
Totally useless and dangerous for me. My health will come before any job, even an exciting and rewarding one like flying!

[dabigbadwolf]

Make sure you wear a mask to the interview. This demonstrates compassion and life saving.

And when they ask how will you survive on the wage presented especially considering inflation... You say inflation is worth it because we saved lives with the policies that got us here.

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Very good, I like the sarcasm... Well done!

[dabigbadwolf]

Internationally, since the USA requires 2 shots to gain access by air or land, well ...

Since Porter flies CAN/USA, it stands to reason that crews are required to have 2 shots. Simple?

Flight crew member on duty are exempt from the US mandatory vaccination. So, unless you fly as a pax, you don't have to be vaccinated.

Can you please point to where that is posted on DHS or other official US Govt website. Thanks

You’re silly!

Why? Because I don't want to take the risk of the shot and I'm ready to not fly anymore? I know a few people who would have lost their class 1 medical aptitude if they were pilots, following this vaccine. I don't want to lose my good health.
As we say in aviation, «When in doubt, don't...»

And I agree with you CortoMaltese, I am also ready to walk away from aviation before I let anyone inject me, and btw, I have zero Covid jabs in me!

[dabigbadwolf]

Well, this post has failed miserably. I asked for people to comment about which companies do not require the Covid Jab and all I got was a bit of a disagreement because Porter requires it still... typical avcanada forums!

[Inverted2]

Well make sure you keep updated on your booster jabs or Dr. Sham will leave a lump of coal in your APU inlet.

Check out this cringe worthy video.

[CortoMaltese]

Kenn Borek says «Full immunization against Covid-19 is preferred.» Probably because of some countries still requiring the vaccine?
Some companies do not specifies it in their job offer, like Perimeter Aviation, Harbour Air. I did not check all the recent job ads.

[Inverted2]

You can get a fake vaccine cert online if you look hard enough, or if you know photoshop you can make one too. Many of us haven’t gotten a shot in well over a year so I don’t see why any company would ask now. Plus it’s no longer required by law.

[chowda]

I see that Summit is still demanding shots a term of employment.

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[Reinhard]

I automatically disregard anyone who took the vax as someone dangerous and stupid who i don't want to associate with like they are some kind of diseased plague.

But when I see a Pureblood, it's just a silent recognition and respect. No pomp, no virtue signaling. just knowing this person is normal and human. Probably a decent good person you want to get to know and do business with.

[rando]

I only listen to experts. Sean Penn is basically a doctor and says it should be criminal to refuse a vaccine. We need more Sean Penn in the world. We need safety. We need rules. Just ask aviatard, TG, etc. They got their 5th booster, feeling great, saving lives. Actually most of the world is criminals now refusing boosters, lots of parents not vaccinating kids, they should go to juvenile detention.

[TG]

I only listen to experts. Sean Penn is basically a doctor and says it should be criminal to refuse a vaccine. We need more Sean Penn in the world. We need safety. We need rules. Just ask aviatard, TG, etc. They got their 5th booster, feeling great, saving lives. Actually most of the world is criminals now refusing boosters, lots of parents not vaccinating kids, they should go to juvenile detention.

Nice assumption but it's 3 for me.
Contemplating a 4th one so I won't end up in quarantine somewhere in a shitty spot during travel.

Covid virus throttled down thanks to: Yes! Vaccination, restrictions at the time, mutation in the right direction. Now that the job is done we can move on (Try it, it will make you feel better)